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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 2:34:32 PM

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Hmmmm... these people aren't motivated by Islam. They're fuelled by it.

It's a little like the conflict in Northern Ireland: the Catholics were exploding bombs left right and center, not in the name of the Church, but to defend their territory. (Incidentally, the IRA was funded largely by American funds - one of the many instances where dollars have been behind a terrorist organisation).

In the end, it all comes down to land. We haven't evolved much, as a specie, in spite of our hubristic beliefs that we rule this planet. Innit.

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 2:35:53 PM

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I'd prefer some Mafioso in Washington over lawyers in suits who smile at you as they're stealing our money.

So mafiosi are people who don't wear suits and smile at you as they steal your money? Wake up, Jim.

The US had a beef with Al Q and so attacked a sworn enemy of Al Q, toppling a regime which Osama Bin Laden was on record as wanting toppled.

Having toppled that regime for Bin Laden the US turned Iraq from a place where radical Islamists were hated, feared and suppressed into a huge benefit concert for the radical Islamist cause, broadcast live around the globe all day every day.

Besides serving as a 24/7 recruiting commercial for suicidal anti-Americans the Iraq war has served as a training ground where those newly minted zealots--whose radicalization was willfully inspired, enabled and largely funded by the US--have a constant supply of Americans to throw bombs at without ever having to cross the US border, and plenty of places to hide when they're done.

Talk about strategy.

Having toppled Hussein for Bin Laden, the US settled into an unwinnable (if the generals over there can be believed when they say "There is no military solution in Iraq") war, just in case anyone still considering having any respect for US military might had forgotten the ass-kicking the US war machine got in VietNam from a small arms militia.

Throwing US military might at "Terrorism" has demonstrated for the world to see that US military might--at least when directed according to NeoCon doctrine--is still inferior to a bunch of ragtag, poorly trained and poorly funded zealots on the battlefield.

Anyone interested in pouring more trillions of borrowed-from-China dollars into a war against yet another sovereign nation which has never attecked the USA, "so everybody knows we can still get ghetto" is just pathetically silly.

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 2:38:43 PM

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And the ones that flew into the twin towers, and a few other loose screws.

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 2:53:39 PM

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Bound2one, but other nations are not children. A policy based on treating them as such would be very bad for everyone involved.

Other peole are talking about building a "super wall". Please study the history of it, the Maginot line, the Great Wall of China, none of them have worked. The idea that we can withdraw and ignore the world is childish. We need to have a real debate on how to effectivly deal with the world.

No, obviously other nations are not children. And while I don't advocate treating other nations as teens, there are similarities. A teen often has only his own interests at heart, has trouble seeing other points of view and needs to be coaxed and nudged along to where the parents wishes to see him. Other nations are similar, though in the nation's case, it is obviously understandable for them to have their own interests at heart, and for them to not understand our point of view and for them to possibly not see why compromise is best for the world's interests. This is why having a great communicator as president is very important to me.

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 3:04:40 PM

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Heart cream, isn't there a Chinese curse that goes, "may you live in interesting times"

I find it interesting that Saudis attacked us and we invaded Iraq.

At least Barack is willing take out bin laden or his minions where ever they`re camped,even in a so called allie`s country, like Pakistan.

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 3:18:45 PM

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Who are the "Islamic Crazy People" exactly?

Here are a few, since you seem to have forgotten.

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 3:25:10 PM

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yes, the ones that you read about in the yellow press, who, having no reason, strap bombs on their ass and walk into our soldiers who occupy and make their country worse, day by day.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=4226818

Or the ones who strap bombs on the mentally disabled and send them into civilian markets.

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 3:34:48 PM

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Ah, but you were talking about terrorists.

Well, I can tell you that any of the present candidates are a good choice if your aim is to regain the respect the United States has lost over the course of the past eight years.

I can also assure you, as an outsider, that Barrack Obama is looked upon with hope by many other countries.

Let's face it: the situation brought upon you by the clown Bush can only be improved. A belligerent foreign policy hasn't brought much else to America than increased violence and suspicion (which is why desperate people are blowing themselves up to make a point).

So, Obama or any other will be just the ticket... at first. The legacy is immensely cumbersome though, wouldn't you say? Nobody will have the time, in four years, to correct the huge mistakes that were made in the past two presidencies.

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 3:39:32 PM

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I can also assure you, as an outsider, that Barrack Obama is looked upon with hope by many other countries.

Mini-hijack: I watched a bit of a speech Obama gave yesterday, and was impressed.

I can see why he's getting such large crowds.

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 3:43:09 PM

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Charisma isn't everything: look at Baby Bush, he had none whatsoever, still, he went vewy, vewy far.

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 3:43:12 PM

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yes, the ones that you read about in the yellow press, who, having no reason, strap bombs on their ass and walk into our soldiers who occupy and make their country worse, day by day.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=4226818

Or the ones who strap bombs on the mentally disabled and send them into civilian markets.

How does pulling out one specific bombing out of thousands and pointing this out, make our position as an occupier any different?

Just b/c those things happen, doesn`t give us the moral high ground.

Let`s get back to ridiculous OP and whether Barack "can get ghetto"

Hey Heretic,can you"get Archie Bunker/Imus/Bill Oreilly"?

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 3:46:08 PM

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Charisma isn't everything: look at Baby Bush, he had none whatsoever, still, he went vewy, vewy far.

No, and you probably could make a good argument that it isn't anything..... certainly not without substance.

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 3:48:11 PM

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Yes, a phenomenon also known as 'being all mouth and no trousers'

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 3:50:10 PM

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Popeye…I’m with you.

It has never been done before but no reason why we can’t build the tallest strongest wall along our borders.

Develop, out of need, our own energy sources. Progress and excel in development of the humane mind and sprit without trying to drag the rest of the degenerate world with us.

Let the UK and France solve all the other world problems…they are so good at giving advice…let them see how good they are at actually doing instead of complaining and judging.

All we would need to do is remain strong because soon the limes and frogs will be begging to join us…. Ha ha we can stand on our wall and throw them advice.

Just in jest and a little overboard…but it is that kind of day here in Kirkwood Mo.

Butch

you do realise dont you - that the UK is the idiot country that propped up the stupidity of Bush on Iraq, and then went in there with the US?

I should have thought the moral support, not to mention the maimed and killed we have incurred to huge expense, might make some revise their ideas about us.

And if not, well perhaps buy an atlas - we're the island north of France - ie not part of France, we speak English and right now we're just about your only friends on the planet - so maybe not a good idea to parade your wanton ignorance and make stupid comment about "limes" (sic)

and I dont give a monkey's that it was "in jest and a little overboard" either. Maybe my post is too.......

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 3:59:37 PM

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I can also assure you, as an outsider, that Barrack Obama is looked upon with hope by many other countries.

Well, they are more than welcome to vote for him if he runs for office in their country. No offense to you or anybody else, but I just find it arrogant when people in other nations seem to think they know what's best for us(not saying you were being like this...just in general.). It's arrogant.

Which is ironic, considering people always complain about US arrogance(Which I'll be the first to admit is a legitimate claim from time to time).

Also... I can imagine somebody on Comedy Central doing a Obama "getting ghetto" skit or something and being loved by people for it. Do I personally find it tasteless? Yes. Do I think a person's terrible for making a joke about it? No. I'd rather people do that than drown us all in Political Correctness.

Just my two cents.

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 3:59:43 PM

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Yes, a phenomenon also known as 'being all mouth and no trousers' .

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 4:01:26 PM

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Popeye…I’m with you.

It has never been done before but no reason why we can’t build the tallest strongest wall along our borders.

Develop, out of need, our own energy sources. Progress and excel in development of the humane mind and sprit without trying to drag the rest of the degenerate world with us.

Let the UK and France solve all the other world problems…they are so good at giving advice…let them see how good they are at actually doing instead of complaining and judging.

All we would need to do is remain strong because soon the limes and frogs will be begging to join us…. Ha ha we can stand on our wall and throw them advice.

Just in jest and a little overboard…but it is that kind of day here in Kirkwood Mo.

Butch

you do realise dont you - that the UK is the idiot country that propped up the stupidity of Bush on Iraq, and then went in there with the US?

I should have thought the moral support, not to mention the maimed and killed we have incurred to huge expense, might make some revise their ideas about us.

And if not, well perhaps buy an atlas - we're the island north of France - ie not part of France, we speak English and right now we're just about your only friends on the planet - so maybe not a good idea to parade your wanton ignorance and make stupid comment about "limes" (sic)

and I dont give a monkey's that it was "in jest and a little overboard" either. Maybe my post is too.......

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 4:02:35 PM

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Hey Heritic,can you"get Archie Bunker/Imus/Bill Oreilly"?

Interesting choices there, O59. One a loudmouth sit-com character, the others mere loudmouths. Perhaps that would have been the archetype John Kerry would have brought to the office?

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 4:03:49 PM

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Also... I can imagine somebody on Comedy Central doing a Obama "getting ghetto" skit or something and being loved by people for it. Do I personally find it tasteless? Yes. Do I think a person's terrible for making a joke about it? No. I'd rather people do that than drown us all in Political Correctness.

Just my two cents.

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I'm sure Dave Chappelle would do a bang-up job on that. He did a great one with Wayne Brady, poking fun at Brady's "ghettoness": http://www.videovat.com/videos/969/chappelle-brady.aspx

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 4:15:18 PM

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Well, they are more than welcome to vote for him if he runs for office in their country. No offense to you or anybody else, but I just find it arrogant when people in other nations seem to think they know what's best for us(not saying you were being like this...just in general.). It's arrogant.

Respectfully, I'd like to remind you that it is because of American clout that the rest of the world cares at all who will get elected in November.

Were it not for this habit of the United States to interfere everywhere but on its own soil, nobody would gives a toss, I assure you.

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