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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 4:15:23 PM   
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I can also assure you, as an outsider, that Barrack Obama is looked upon with hope by many other countries.



Well, they are more than welcome to vote for him if he runs for office in their country.  No offense to you or anybody else, but I just find it arrogant when people in other nations seem to think they know what's best for us(not saying you were being like this...just in general.).  It's arrogant.

Which is ironic, considering people always complain about US arrogance(Which I'll be the first to admit is a legitimate claim from time to time).

Also...  I can imagine somebody on Comedy Central doing a Obama "getting ghetto" skit or something and being loved by people for it.  Do I personally find it tasteless?  Yes.  Do I think a person's terrible for making a joke about it?  No.  I'd rather people do that than drown us all in Political Correctness.

Just my two cents.

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It`s a function of living with one of the most powerful nations on earth.

Our influence for good and bad is enormous.The other earthlings are naturally concerned with who our leader is.

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 4:19:53 PM   
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Our influence for good and bad is enormous.The other earthlings are naturally concerned with who our leader is.



Huh... 'leader' being used in the loosest sense possible, right, Owner :-) ?

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 4:20:58 PM   
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you do realise dont you - that the UK is the idiot country that propped up the stupidity of Bush on Iraq, and then went in there with the US?

I should have thought the moral support, not to mention the maimed and killed we have incurred to huge expense, might make some revise their ideas about us.

And if not, well perhaps buy an atlas - we're the island north of France - ie not part of France, we speak English and right now we're just about your only friends on the planet - so maybe not a good idea to parade your wanton ignorance and make stupid comment about "limes" (sic)

and I dont give a monkey's that it was "in jest and a little overboard" either. Maybe my post is too.......

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I am surprised to hear an American speak this way of the British, who have been our very close allies these past years - much to the dismay of some of their countrymen. 

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RE: Can Barrack "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 4:26:05 PM   
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Can he "get ghetto"?  I don't know, but he sure is working the "Martin Luther King" cadence as well as his black and white vintage looking videos.I enjoy listening to him..I just wish he'd not rely so heavily on his catch phrase "Yes,we can!" and tell us WHAT he intends to do.  I haven't heard a plan one from him yet..just rhetoric.  The MLK impersonation isn't going to carry us far.
 
Both Hillary and Barrack have a big job ahead of them..if they blow it- they ruin any immediate future prospects for their respective gender and race.
 
I don't  care where they've been or where they come from.. I want to know what they will do specifically to solve the problems. What's their game plan.
 
 

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 4:26:45 PM   
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My My I seem to have struck a nerve… LadyEllen you did not prop us up…you grabbed a leg cuff and with your usual wishie washie which way is the wind blowing stance managed to play both sides making things worse. I just wish the UK would take a stance once in its recent history and standby it…not wait for someone else to bail them out.

I agree with you about the war in Iraq but can’t stand the hindsight know it all pompous attitude many in Europe often expound. You should have shut up or stood up to us…not join us then whine like babies for years.
As they say…” with friends like you we need no enemies” …we will get along quite nicely without your friendship if need be….not so sure you can afford to loose ours.

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 4:32:50 PM   
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Yeah? And if they stand up to 'you', like France did, they're called cowards.

Looks as though nobody can win, in your book.

Do you realise it's views such as yours which has given your country a bad name all over the planet?

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 5:02:00 PM   
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You see kittinSol I am an isolationist...I don't care what the rest of the planet thinks...least of all you and your kind.

I do want you to have a good… safe… happy… life, but other than that I care nothing of your ideas on how my country or I should act.

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 5:17:44 PM   
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...I don't care what the rest of the planet thinks...least of all you and your kind.


Well ,we`ve had 7 plus years of that.We`ve seen the downside of this attitude,and the damage done.

If you want energy prices to rise,the terrorist threat to grow exponentially,to invade Iran while letting bin laden die peacefully in bed with his new wives and snub our only friends in the world,...vote republican.

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 5:20:14 PM   
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Yeah? And if they stand up to 'you', like France did, they're called cowards.



    No.  The French get called cowards because of how they bend over to their enemies.  They get called assholes because of how they stand up to their friends.

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 5:27:15 PM   
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Owner59 you have me wrong… I am dead against the current administration and its policies.

I am for change and I am working towards it. BUT…I can’t stand people that shake my hand…tell me they agree with me… tell me they will stand behind me… then when things get tough they run and snipe.

When I give my word I mean it …thru thick and thin.

Even the sniping I could take if it was directed against those who deserved it… but no …they often group all Americans together.

As I am typing I realized I have done somewhat same with the UK and France… but of course I am right.
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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 5:31:55 PM   
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Even the sniping I could take if it was directed against those who deserved it… but no …they often group all Americans together.



You and Rich did just what you complain others do to Americans. You just put entire people into the bags of their nations.

Nations suck: welcome to the real world.

PS: Rich, for the cause of civility, I'm not calling you out on your insults.

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 5:36:45 PM   
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The jihadists will never run out of those willing to do whatever they see as their "duty", and fear won't help,
there. I mean, if they aren't afraid of President Bush, then who will scare them?




We had a similar problem in Vietnam.

Americans and most other western cultural types tend to fear death and pain and suffering and hardship.  A lot of this goes along with the cultural idea that the individual is more important than the body politic.  It is a general concept, and does not apply to the specific very well.  However, one of the problems the US had was in contemplating why a Buddhist monk would self-immolate as a method of protesting the war.  To westerners, the idea that one would kill oneself to support a moral belief was unfathomable, whereas dying because somebody else sent one to die is lauded.

Now we are dealing with those in the Middle East, whose religion and culture tend to have the idea that one's fate is at the will and behest of one's God.  Traffic rules, playing with explosives, unprotected sex, etc., tend to be viewed through the idea that if Allah wishes one to live, Allah will hold one in the palm of his hand and protect one.

Bush does not scare those in the Middle East because the only thing he can bring them is death, and they dont fear death the way westerners do.

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p.s.  One of the things that always amuses me about the Iraq War Cheerleaders and ardent Bush supporters is they have tied their wagons to an inarticulate bully who moonlights as a black-out drunk.  He is their mascot, their shining example, the zenith of their intellectual and social achievements and hopes.

p.p.s.  as far as the title of the thread, the rampant bigotry and intolerance of saying a black man needs to get "ghetto," while implying that "getting ghetto" involves being tough, presenting a show of force, invading a sovereign nation, under illegal and fraudulant pretenses,  after pissing off all one's friends, etc., is something I find both shocking and amusing.  I know how much you enjoy how George W. Bush has comported himself, but I really dont want to elect Barak Obama in order to do as dismal a job as the idiots the right had in power for the last 7 years have done.


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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 5:36:59 PM   
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The other earthlings are naturally concerned with who our leader is.


yah and an even bigger concern is that we think of them as "leaders" rather then a constitutionally recognized "administrators".

I guess a country of dummies needs leaders though?







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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 5:38:20 PM   
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Even the sniping I could take if it was directed against those who deserved it… but no …they often group all Americans together.



You and Rich did just what you complain others do to Americans. You just put entire people into the bags of their nations.

Nations suck: welcome to the real world.

PS: Rich, for the cause of civility, I'm not calling you out on your insults.

Yes you must not of read my last post, you do that all the time it seems, where I admitted that...but you must  also admit I said you and your kind... that does not include the whole of UK... close though.


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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 5:43:00 PM   
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       Kitten, after posting this thread, do you think I'm the slightest bit concerned about how some might interpret my dragging out an old joke about the French?

     

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 5:45:45 PM   
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Owner59 you have me wrong… I am dead against the current administration and its policies.

I am for change and I am working towards it. BUT…I can’t stand people that shack my hand…tell me they agree with me… tell me they will stand behind me… then when things get tough they run and snipe.

When I give my word I mean it …thru thick and thin.

Even the sniping I could take if it was directed against those who deserved it… but no …they often group all Americans together.

As I am typing I realized I have done somewhat same with the UK and France… but of course I am right.
Butch
 

Fair enough.But we`ll get more bees with honey,than with vinegar.

Just so you know, British and French troopers are fighting and dying in Afghanistan along side of us.They`re filling body-bags and leaving grieving families behind as we are.

If we can`t talk our friends into a mis-adventure,we shouldn`t chide them over it.

We need our friends more than ever and really can`t fight a global war on al-queda without them,IMO.

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 5:46:44 PM   
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Perhaps you weren't aware of the fact that I am an asshole frog after all :-). And if you were, and you were impolite purposedly, it makes you doubly uninteresting.

Why not give up on playground bullying tactiques and concentrate on Sinergy's post? He had a lot of very interesting things to say.



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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 5:46:50 PM   
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You see kittinSol I am an isolationist...I don't care what the rest of the planet thinks...least of all you and your kind.

I do want you to have a good… safe… happy… life, but other than that I care nothing of your ideas on how my country or I should act.


You really should care. The only time isolationist policies served this country well is when we decided to not help the French with their own revolution and we only did that because we lacked the power and they were taking it too far with all the beheadings. As an American, I can not stand isolationism - it breeds ignorence of what is going on in other countries in some foolish assumpations that the ocean seperating us from Europe is some kind of valid defense. Obviously there will be mistakes on either end of policy, but... *shrugs* isolationism is just too damn arrogent for my tastes.

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 5:48:13 PM   
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anyone ever notice who barak sounds like

should get him to introduce barak at all his debates with billory and his other scheduled appearances

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 5:50:03 PM   
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I am not wading through pages of this crap.
 
Quick answer---anyone can get fired up, pissed off, angry and or mad.
 
Almost everyone can go off or get "ghetto".

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