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RE: Why is age so important? - 9/19/2005 6:14:03 AM   
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age is a figure...a number. why are you judged? for the same reason everyone else is. personal criteria.

"I" don't want a domme 85 yrs old.-..and i am 52.

if i was a male Dom i would not want a sub half my age...i'd want a sub not another daughter.

my wives, were close to my age.

my gf's were close.

my friends are close to my age.

"I" cannot relate to some one TOO old OR too young.

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RE: Why is age so important? - 9/19/2005 9:07:19 AM   
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quote:

LadyAngelika:

The horny/needy/sleazy vibe can come off just about anyone, even a Domme.


I'm talking about that dirty old man quality. If you don't know what I mean, then I guess I envy you for not having encountered many of them.

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RE: Why is age so important? - 9/19/2005 3:05:18 PM   
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A horny and needy domme? Noooo...

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

The horny/needy/sleazy vibe can come off just about anyone, even a Domme.


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RE: Why is age so important? - 9/19/2005 4:01:45 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ManOwner

quote:

LadyAngelika:

The horny/needy/sleazy vibe can come off just about anyone, even a Domme.


I'm talking about that dirty old man quality. If you don't know what I mean, then I guess I envy you for not having encountered many of them.


Perhaps you are a sleezy young thang, with a body you think is hotter than it is and an EGO to match....which us older men despise.....atleast this one.
Just for the record, "I judge a person on everything except age. Personality goes a long way, wit, views on life and lifestyle, looks count and their demeanor. It doesn't matter how old they are, they either have it or they don't, and yes, looks count too."



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RE: Why is age so important? - 9/19/2005 11:03:43 PM   
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quote:

Perhaps you are a sleezy young thang, with a body you think is hotter than it is and an EGO to match....which us older men despise.....atleast this one.
Just for the record, "I judge a person on everything except age. Personality goes a long way, wit, views on life and lifestyle, looks count and their demeanor. It doesn't matter how old they are, they either have it or they don't, and yes, looks count too."


All of a sudden, your starting to look sexy when you say things like that. We all want the package deal, don't we?

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RE: Why is age so important? - 9/20/2005 5:06:07 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ManOwner

quote:

LadyAngelika:

The horny/needy/sleazy vibe can come off just about anyone, even a Domme.


I'm talking about that dirty old man quality. If you don't know what I mean, then I guess I envy you for not having encountered many of them.


I've met my share of wankers and believe me, they come in all shapes, sizes, gender, age ranges.

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RE: Why is age so important? - 9/20/2005 7:58:14 AM   
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AGE DOES MATTER when seeking a committed, long-term relationship!


I saw the impact of age as my parents aged. They had a 15 year age difference. It didn't matter while they were younger, but it sure mattered as they got into their later years. It caused a great deal of discord and discontent. No way would I ever put myself into their shoes.

There are also significant biological factors that make me shun guys who are significantly older than me. My profile has a stipulation about phenotype. It would disgust me to have a libidinal rapport with someone who looks like my father. Few men age as well as, say, actor Robert Wagner, who seems to look more spectacular by the year.

There are also the realities of what the penis can do at 20 vs. 70. Few men as "driven" as someone like Jack Rinella, who has sex at least twice a day -- despite being in his late 50s. Though Jack and I would be poorly matched as playmates, his level of uber drive is mandatory for whomever becomes my houseboy.

Because I'm seeking a life partner, not a transient playment, I don't want a guy who's significantly younger either.


In case you're wondering, before I'd reject you for age, you provided a whole bunch of reasons on your profile why I wouldn't contact you: Shibari, ass worship, CBT, chastity belts, cross-dressing, foot worship, objectification, Female Supremacy.... with not a word on your profile about the rewards of domestic drudgery, let alone no effort in creating a profile about what you have to offer a dominant woman. It's a "do me" profile, if ever I saw one. If that's a reflection of the types of introductions you send, it's within the realm of probabilities that your age is being used as a polite excuse to get rid of you.

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RE: Why is age so important? - 9/20/2005 12:32:00 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: TiNeedsHouseboy

AGE DOES MATTER when seeking a committed, long-term relationship!


I saw the impact of age as my parents aged. They had a 15 year age difference. It didn't matter while they were younger, but it sure mattered as they got into their later years. It caused a great deal of discord and discontent. No way would I ever put myself into their shoes.

There are also significant biological factors that make me shun guys who are significantly older than me. My profile has a stipulation about phenotype. It would disgust me to have a libidinal rapport with someone who looks like my father. Few men age as well as, say, actor Robert Wagner, who seems to look more spectacular by the year.

There are also the realities of what the penis can do at 20 vs. 70. Few men as "driven" as someone like Jack Rinella, who has sex at least twice a day -- despite being in his late 50s. Though Jack and I would be poorly matched as playmates, his level of uber drive is mandatory for whomever becomes my houseboy.

Because I'm seeking a life partner, not a transient playment, I don't want a guy who's significantly younger either.


In case you're wondering, before I'd reject you for age, you provided a whole bunch of reasons on your profile why I wouldn't contact you: Shibari, ass worship, CBT, chastity belts, cross-dressing, foot worship, objectification, Female Supremacy.... with not a word on your profile about the rewards of domestic drudgery, let alone no effort in creating a profile about what you have to offer a dominant woman. It's a "do me" profile, if ever I saw one. If that's a reflection of the types of introductions you send, it's within the realm of probabilities that your age is being used as a polite excuse to get rid of you.

~ Ti ~



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RE: Why is age so important? - 9/20/2005 12:39:19 PM   
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Gee, I didn't know Ti has ESP. It is no more a "do me" profile than 95% of the profiles on this site. You or any one can reject me for any reason, but the "interests" are just that, "interests". A submissive serves his Mistress and that includes domestic duties. I see no reason to list that in my profile since servitude is part of being a submissive(domestic duties and otherwise). Some Domme's require special skills which I do not possess in which case I would not be what they are looking for.

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RE: Why is age so important? - 9/20/2005 12:59:17 PM   
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To me, age is not important. Sure, the body lets you down as people get older, but there are certain things that many people can't do, wether it be because of disability or normal old age.

All relationships have problems, more in an age gap relationship but if you love someone, then those age gap problems are far from significant.

I am 21, considered by many on theis and other BDSM sites to be far too young, stupid an immature to know anything about bondage. Well, i do. There's always more to learn but i learn and grow just like anybody else.

If you love someone or want to play with someone, who cares what the birth certificate says?

People are far more than a number.

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RE: Why is age so important? - 9/20/2005 1:09:33 PM   
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quote:

servitude is part of being a submissive(domestic duties and otherwise


Wow, Slimsub, can you pass that around so all the boys can read it? Seriously, MANY of those who describe themselves as submissive would not dream of doing menial labor unless asked. Very specifically.

It does help to add that you understand that folding the laundry and getting the oil changed on the car are services, too.

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RE: Why is age so important? - 9/20/2005 8:24:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

It does help to add that you understand that folding the laundry and getting the oil changed on the car are services, too.

:)F


And grading papers, in my case. When I told my submissive I was able to get my teacher's aide at school, he said, (and I quote) "Thank God!"

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RE: Why is age so important? - 9/20/2005 8:36:13 PM   
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Actually, for me age is a factor but on the other end. I won't even consider a sub under 30. I had one in his 20's when I was in my 30's and found he simply wanted a kinky substitute mother rather than a Mistress. He lived at home, dropped out of college, worked at a comic book store and 'gamed' with his pals at least three times a week. He also hadn't gotten past the idea that D/s was all about kinky sex. Give me an older, more settled sub any day.

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RE: Why is age so important? - 9/20/2005 11:16:23 PM   
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I am 24, and I tend to have subs 10-15 years older than me. They tend to be more settled in life, and know what they want. I have tried to have younger guys as subs, but someone said, they were just all about "kinky sex".

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RE: Why is age so important? - 9/22/2005 3:07:04 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: slimsub
Gee, I didn't know Ti has ESP.

I do have some gifts involving such phenomena, but that's neither here nor there.


quote:

ORIGINAL: slimsub
It is no more a "do me" profile than 95% of the profiles on this site. You or any one can reject me for any reason, but the "interests" are just that, "interests". A submissive serves his Mistress and that includes domestic duties. I see no reason to list that in my profile since servitude is part of being a submissive(domestic duties and otherwise). Some Domme's require special skills which I do not possess in which case I would not be what they are looking for.

Congratulations! Only a do-me sub would totally miss / shun / sidestep the point of my post. And that point was:

Your profile is a compendium of interests, and nothing but interests. It says nothing about the inner you or why a dominant woman should be intrigued by you. You've put no effort into its creation. You couldn't even be bothered checking for run-on sentences. (Poor attention to detail does not make for a subbie who will be able to coordinate all the little facets that accompany domestic services.)

In other words, there's nothing to entice anyone's interest. Why would anyone believe you're truly motivated? Where have you written something to indicate you're more than a kinky player?

~ Ti ~

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RE: Why is age so important? - 9/22/2005 3:54:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: slimsub

Gee, I didn't know Ti has ESP. It is no more a "do me" profile than 95% of the profiles on this site. You or any one can reject me for any reason, but the "interests" are just that, "interests". A submissive serves his Mistress and that includes domestic duties. I see no reason to list that in my profile since servitude is part of being a submissive(domestic duties and otherwise). Some Domme's require special skills which I do not possess in which case I would not be what they are looking for.


Regardless of whether or not Ti is right, you do have to accept that a lot of people use age, location, or whatever as an excuse instead of saying "I'm just not that into you." You can say that all your failures have been based on age alone, but you can't rule out that there may be other factors that play into it.

I'd be curious to know how many women ended up partnered with men who did not meet their "surface" criteria when it comes to age, physical style, education, location. What compromises do women end up making when they meet a guy that blows her socks off? About half of mine went out the window (including age difference and location) when I met my partner.

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RE: Why is age so important? - 9/22/2005 7:36:50 PM   
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quote:

I'd be curious to know how many women ended up partnered with men who did not meet their "surface" criteria when it comes to age, physical style, education, location. What compromises do women end up making when they meet a guy that blows her socks off? About half of mine went out the window (including age difference and location) when I met my partner.


My husband and I met on one a different BDSM site... if we had gone by what the profiles and checklists said we wouldn't have had so much as a first date. Almost completely opposite of what we "thought" we were looking for. I mean... come-on... I wasn't looking for a dominant male.... but I've never been happier in my life, he is my soul mate, my other half, my completion.... whatever you want to call it. Luckily we didn't pay attention to what they had to say, instead we took a chance.

Jewel


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RE: Why is age so important? - 9/22/2005 8:06:35 PM   
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quote:

many women ended up partnered with men who did not meet their "surface" criteria when it comes to age, physical style, education, location. What compromises do women end up making when they meet a guy that blows her socks off? About half of mine went out the window (including age difference and location) when I met my partner.
Akasha
Good point again... Plenty of us are not so shallow as to rule out someone wonderful on a single criterion, but if one isn't willing to do the work/put forth the effort, and prove himself attention worthy, he certainly will lose many chances in his lifetime. M

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RE: Why is age so important? - 9/23/2005 3:00:21 AM   
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I am 24 years old, and I can say honestly that age does matter to me. Why does it matter?

Firstly, and possibly most importantly, there is the issue of simply relating to the person. There are certain generational things - frames of references - that come with being with someone closer in age. It means we were young at the same time, and have come to see the world at a certain time.

Secondly, there is the issue of what happens long term. There is no question that many people would be open to being with an older person in a "play" environment. But you seem to be looking for a relationship. What happens then, 10 years down the line, when you are 75, and say, I am 35? Or what about 85/45? You say you are healthy, but your health does become a factor as the years progress.

Thirdly, there is the factor of attraction. Younger people are generally attracted to younger people, as I am sure you were at a younger age.

The bottom line is you may get lucky with a younger person, but there are good reasons why you may not.

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RE: Why is age so important? - 9/23/2005 9:19:07 AM   
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ORIGINAL: AAkasha
I'd be curious to know how many women ended up partnered with men who did not meet their "surface" criteria when it comes to age, physical style, education, location. What compromises do women end up making when they meet a guy that blows her socks off? About half of mine went out the window (including age difference and location) when I met my partner.

I have met three men in my lifetime -- to date -- and hope to find a fourth -- who have rocked my world. Since I never pick based on physical appearance, that's essentially irrelevant. All I ask is that I not feel nauseous when I look at the guy.... leaving endless wiggle room.

That said, I do have one physical attribute issue that I screen for... which some guys think is a joke when I ask about it. It's no joke. It's not an area where compromise is possible. Either the guy has the attribute, or he doesn't. Without it, we're not interlocking gears -- literally. That discrepancy is sufficient to not pursue a libidinal relationship.

All three guys share the same elusive mystery: Chemistry on contact. You can't simply write it off as "new partner lust." Otherwise, there's no way to explain that this chemistry exists through decades -- unchanged, unstoppable. It's not a dynamic that one can seek out on purpose. It either happens fortuitously, or it does not. (For the record: The guy referenced below with the degree in journalism swears that we've known each other through the centuries. I have no awareness of past lives, but I can't deny that the second we met, there was something eerily familiar about him.)

I will never compromise on intelligence and education. Intellectual level is the key to my captivation. Unless a guy is in the superior range of intelligence, he'll never be able to tickle my brain's neurons; my synapses will simply sit there, waiting for a reason to transmit signals, 'cause anything less invokes my "off" switches.

Of the three who rocked my world, one was beginning medical school when we met, one had just graduated from podiatry school, and one has a Master's degree in journalism. Their educational backgrounds allowed them to grasp what I've gone through in my life; without traveling parallel paths, one may empathize, but it's impossible to understand the hoops one must jump through in such endeavors. I've had extended relationships with guys who've stopped with high school, or only took a few college classes. There's always a chasm that's created because they just don't "get" critical elements that shaped my life.

My stand on age is firm. To reiterate: for me, it matters for long-term relationships and that's what I'm seeking at this time. Playmates are a dime-a-dozen. Beyond that, there's the phenotype issue. I don't want someone who looks like he's my father or my child. Common interests and "world views" become problematic, too, when there's too much of an age gap.

I've done the long distance relationship thing. I have no desire to do it again. I found it very lonely and unfulfilling. Though I'm willing to accept inquiries from guys who live in other states/cities, to be accepted for service, he must be willing to live locally. My one exception: since I'm originally from New York City, if I met "Mr. Sub Wonderful" from The Big Apple, who -- for some reason -- couldn't relocate, I would return to New York if it became evident we'd be entering a committed, long-term relationship.

The following issues are not negotiable or open to compromise as the basis of beginning a relationship:
  • I have no need for someone whose "submission" is limited to sex.
  • I have no need for someone whose submission mandates chastity (e.g., a guy recently contacted me because he somehow misconstrued his wishful thinking into believing that I'd be thrilled to have a chaste sub -- since his recent prostate cancer treatment caused his peter to poop out -- for all intents and purposes). It would be a horse of a whole other color if the sub was in a committed relationship with me and a medical problem ensued. It would then be my responsibility to care for him and unearth a path to our mutual fulfillment. I wouldn't view that as compromise. I would view that as part of the responsibilities when two (or more) lives are blended.
  • I have no need for someone whose submission is contingent on S&M.
  • I have no need for someone whose submission is contingent on humiliation.
  • I have no need for a guy who wants to simulate being a woman. If I wanted a woman, I'd request a houseGIRL, not a houseBOY.
  • I have no need for a guy who's bi. I don't stage forced bi scenes. I don't want him sneaking behind my back to fulfill unmet needs. I won't be cuckolding him. I don't engage in public play. I don't share my property.

My single area of compromise, if you can call it that, has been in the realm of religion.


~ Ti ~


< Message edited by TiNeedsHouseboy -- 9/23/2005 9:24:04 AM >

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