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RE: My Concern About Obama - 3/2/2008 9:41:10 AM

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Same challenge exists with Hillary.....1/2 asshole.....1/2 cunt

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RE: My Concern About Obama - 3/2/2008 9:54:12 AM

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RE: My Concern About Obama - 3/2/2008 12:07:05 PM

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Obama went up through Chicago ward politics he's already corrupt!

Yes and no. I grew up in Chicago- 25 years there.... I can say yes AND no. Chicago politics is bizzarre, creative, extreme. The players are even entertaining. I doubt cities of 3 million, 8 million metro have LESS curruption. The difference is folks from Chicago are good at hunting it out- un-covering the corruption. Look at how many things the city can do. The deep tunnel project- you wont see that in New York.

Skycrapers... the city that works, the city with big shoulders, the windy city..[referring to braggards when Chicago went after the worlds fair -assumadly NYC was the choice.]

I miss the "can do" attitude. Now understand if Chicago was so great- I would still live there.... I dont. In fact I should have left alot sooner.

The thing is- navigating Chicago politics is good training ground for anything that will be thrown at you. Particularly from the "Southside".

Historically Chicago is Second City- an intense rivalry between it and New York. It refused the movie industry which then went to Hollywood.

The 2nd city frame of reference should not be underestimated. thats what I am trying to say...

So Ild say it is a wash- with somewhat an advantage of having the Chicago experience. It isnt pretty- nor is alot of life....

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RE: My Concern About Obama - 3/2/2008 12:27:56 PM

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Obama went up through Chicago ward politics he's already corrupt!

Yes and no. I grew up in Chicago- 25 years there.... I can say yes AND no.

Reading up on his political history, it seems to be more the case that Obama got to be where he is today through bypassing the Cook County system, or at least by manipulating its weaknesses to his benefit, instead of playing the decades long game of trading favors to get his turn at the next bit of patronage.

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