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RE: Straight males and the word "boi" - 3/7/2008 12:18:18 PM   
petpete


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Status: offline 		Dear LadyPact. i am sorry if i offended anyone by saying that i wont accept to be something that i cant be and is not biologically possible for me to do so. Don't worry Girl i can be quite explosive when i get stirred or undermined. But i can be a very docile puppy on the other hand. If i trust and know the person a can let them get away with more..

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RE: Straight males and the word "boi" - 3/7/2008 12:21:04 PM   
LadyPact


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shit      /ʃɪt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[shit] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, shit or shat, shit·ting, interjection Vulgar. –noun 1.excrement; feces. 2.an act of defecating; evacuation. 3.the shits. diarrhea. 4.Slang. pretense, lies, exaggeration, or nonsense. 5.Slang. something inferior or worthless. 6.Slang. a selfish, mean, or otherwise contemptible person. 7.Slang. narcotic drugs, esp. heroin or marijuana. 8.Slang. possessions, equipment, mementos, etc.; stuff. –verb (used without object) 9.to defecate. –verb (used with object) 10.Slang. to exaggerate or lie to. –interjection 11.Slang. (used to express disgust, disappointment, frustration, contempt, or the like). —Idioms12.give a shit, Slang. to care; be concerned. 13.no shit, (used to express amazement, incredulity, or derision). 14.up shit creek, Slang. in a desperate or hopeless situation; in serious trouble. Also, up shits creek, up shit creek without a paddle.
[Origin: (v.) var. (with short i from ptp. or n.) of earlier shite, ME shiten, OE scītan; cf. MLG, MD schiten (D schijten), OHG skīzan (G scheissen); (n.) re-formation from the v., or continuation of OE scite (in place names)]

quote:

ORIGINAL: KyttynTheMynx

So, ok.  I went to look up the definition of shit.  Seems to me that a LOT of people have been using it in the various ways that it is listed on the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary.  Care to share with me another way we oh so silly people have been misusing it?

1shit Pronunciation: \ˈshit, interjectionally also ˈshē-ət\ Function:noun Etymology:Middle English *shit, from Old English scite; akin to Old English -scītan to defecateDate:circa 1526 1usually vulgar : feces2usually vulgar : an act of defecation3usually vulgar : nonsense, crap4usually vulgar : any of several intoxicating or narcotic drugs; especially : heroin5usually vulgar : damn 26usually vulgar : a worthless, offensive, or detestable person7usually vulgar a—used as an interjection b—used as an intensive usually with the — shit·ty \ˈshi-tē\ adjective usually vulgar



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RE: Straight males and the word "boi" - 3/7/2008 12:35:51 PM   
LadyPact


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quote:

ORIGINAL: petpete

Dear LadyPact. i am sorry if i offended anyone by saying that i wont accept to be something that i cant be and is not biologically possible for me to do so. Don't worry Girl i can be quite explosive when i get stirred or undermined. But i can be a very docile puppy on the other hand. If i trust and know the person a can let them get away with more..


No offense taken whatsoever.  The answer was meant a bit tongue and cheek.


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RE: Straight males and the word "boi" - 3/7/2008 12:41:47 PM   
tsatske


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Status: offline 		I have a former master who is strait, and also clueless. His email name screenname is a variant of 'BearGuy'. If he puts up his pic with any given profile, you will see that he is 800 lbs with hair half way down his back and a hair covered body, although smooth shaven.
And then he would wonder why Gay guys keep writing him? yea, I wonder....

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RE: Straight males and the word "boi" - 3/7/2008 1:08:53 PM   
darchChylde


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Status: offline 		Hmmm, whatever the meaning, i've never liked it the few times i was referred to as "boi" online (i always equated it to sk8erboi and the skate rats i used to hate).  But then again, i don't like being called "boy" either; unless by Ma'am, who doesn't often do so.  Strangely enough, i often refer to myself as a "subbie boy".

But as far as people using it, the internet spawned the instant gratification society where people seldom do ten seconds of research into any given subject (yes, it took me about that long to google "boi" and come up with the very wikipedia page that you sourced; top of the list).  In a perfect world, people will stop using whose meaning they don't know; but we don't live in that world, so we'll have fun griping and debating.


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RE: Straight males and the word "boi" - 3/7/2008 1:09:04 PM   
petpete


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Status: offline 		i would receive any words with pleasure coming from such a Beautiful and Superior Lady such as Yourself Dear LadyPact. You can stick Your tongue on my cheek anytime Girl!!

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RE: Straight males and the word "boi" - 3/7/2008 1:09:23 PM   
KyttynTheMynx


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Status: offline 		lmao...ok and?  You just generally reposted what I posted, but with a few more defintions.  Wanna cookie?

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Absolutely, just because I'm the helpful type.

shit      /ʃɪt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[shit] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, shit or shat, shit·ting, interjection Vulgar. –noun 1.excrement; feces. 2.an act of defecating; evacuation. 3.the shits. diarrhea. 4.Slang. pretense, lies, exaggeration, or nonsense. 5.Slang. something inferior or worthless. 6.Slang. a selfish, mean, or otherwise contemptible person. 7.Slang. narcotic drugs, esp. heroin or marijuana. 8.Slang. possessions, equipment, mementos, etc.; stuff. –verb (used without object) 9.to defecate. –verb (used with object) 10.Slang. to exaggerate or lie to. –interjection 11.Slang. (used to express disgust, disappointment, frustration, contempt, or the like). —Idioms12.give a shit, Slang. to care; be concerned. 13.no shit, (used to express amazement, incredulity, or derision). 14.up shit creek, Slang. in a desperate or hopeless situation; in serious trouble. Also, up shits creek, up shit creek without a paddle.
[Origin: (v.) var. (with short i from ptp. or n.) of earlier shite, ME shiten, OE scītan; cf. MLG, MD schiten (D schijten), OHG skīzan (G scheissen); (n.) re-formation from the v., or continuation of OE scite (in place names)]

quote:

ORIGINAL: KyttynTheMynx

So, ok.  I went to look up the definition of shit.  Seems to me that a LOT of people have been using it in the various ways that it is listed on the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary.  Care to share with me another way we oh so silly people have been misusing it?

1shit Pronunciation: \ˈshit, interjectionally also ˈshē-ət\ Function:noun Etymology:Middle English *shit, from Old English scite; akin to Old English -scītan to defecateDate:circa 1526 1usually vulgar : feces2usually vulgar : an act of defecation3usually vulgar : nonsense, crap4usually vulgar : any of several intoxicating or narcotic drugs; especially : heroin5usually vulgar : damn 26usually vulgar : a worthless, offensive, or detestable person7usually vulgar a—used as an interjection b—used as an intensive usually with the — shit·ty \ˈshi-tē\ adjective usually vulgar




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RE: Straight males and the word "boi" - 3/7/2008 1:10:47 PM   
Tavian


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Status: offline 		I'm not going to be political here at all. My first thought was "who the heck cares?" Now my thought is this: The definitions of words are constantly changing. Get over it. So the lesbian community lost it's monopoly over the use of the word "boi".. Cry me a river. Please go find something more important to complain about..this has already taken up too much bandwidth.

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RE: Straight males and the word "boi" - 3/7/2008 1:20:27 PM   
darchChylde


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Tavian

I'm not going to be political here at all. My first thought was "who the heck cares?" Now my thought is this: The definitions of words are constantly changing. Get over it. So the lesbian community lost it's monopoly over the use of the word "boi".. Cry me a river. Please go find something more important to complain about..this has already taken up too much bandwidth.


And you thought that just because you said so it would stop the thread?  That's a waste of bandwidth in itself, and incredibly arrogant to go into a thread and start dictating.  Get over yourself, why post in a thread if you don't have the slightest constructive imput to offer?

Edited because i saw an error on my part: Oops, i forgot what section i was in; still, the rest of the post stands.


< Message edited by darchChylde -- 3/7/2008 1:29:44 PM >

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RE: Straight males and the word "boi" - 3/7/2008 1:24:26 PM   
JerryFrankster


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RE: Straight males and the word "boi" - 3/7/2008 1:28:17 PM   
tigerstyle


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Status: offline 		The defense of the original sense of a term is just as much a part of the evolution of language as the appropriation of that term by another subculture.

They said it best in the FAQ section of begthequestion.info  :
Q:But language is constantly evolving!
A: That's great to know! Descriptivist linguists, whom we do not fault for their stand, are quite free to watch as we bring about an evolution in the vernacular understanding of "begging the question." [substitute "boi"].



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RE: Straight males and the word "boi" - 3/7/2008 1:35:49 PM   
LadyPact


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Status: offline 		No, as you recognized (or I thought you did) it was funny.  Btw, happen to notice how many of the definitions were slang?

quote:

ORIGINAL: KyttynTheMynx

lmao...ok and?  You just generally reposted what I posted, but with a few more defintions.  Wanna cookie?



I'll take this as a compliment.
quote:

ORIGINAL: petpete

i would receive any words with pleasure coming from such a Beautiful and Superior Lady such as Yourself Dear LadyPact. You can stick Your tongue on my cheek anytime Girl!!


As to wasting bandwidth, I'd really like to know what one considers a waste?  It seems that a lot of people got some information in this thread, whether they agreed with it or not.  Seems a lot more valuable to Me than the some of the other things that come up around here.  I'll bet a lot of people thought someone asking what topping from the bottom meant was a waste of space, especially those who have been around more than thirty days.
quote:

ORIGINAL: Tavian

I'm not going to be political here at all. My first thought was "who the heck cares?" Now my thought is this: The definitions of words are constantly changing. Get over it. So the lesbian community lost it's monopoly over the use of the word "boi".. Cry me a river. Please go find something more important to complain about..this has already taken up too much bandwidth.


I agree with dc.  Get over yourself.



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RE: Straight males and the word "boi" - 3/7/2008 1:38:15 PM   
KyttynTheMynx


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Status: offline 		Take it as you want, but a few pages back, YOU were the one that stated that most people dont use the word shit properly.  I was merely pointing out that from the definitions that I, and you have shown, people generally use it right.  Are we all up to speed now?  Good.  Moving on.

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RE: Straight males and the word "boi" - 3/7/2008 1:41:45 PM   
Madame4a


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Status: offline 		wow... interesting coming from you and your posts all over these boards the last few days...I'm going to guess, one or two of us found your posts a waste of bandwith since half of what you asked about could be found in several places with just the slightest bit of effort...but I didn't bother to say that.. it wasn't nice...

silly me...


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RE: Straight males and the word "boi" - 3/7/2008 1:43:20 PM   
colouredin


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*edited to agree with Madame4a :D


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RE: Straight males and the word "boi" - 3/7/2008 1:45:10 PM   
Madame4a


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are you still sure, I edited.. and still held back what I really think.. LOL

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RE: Straight males and the word "boi" - 3/7/2008 1:50:02 PM   
ottRopesandKnots


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quote:

ORIGINAL: tigerstyle
The defense of the original sense of a term is just as much a part of the evolution of language as the appropriation of that term by another subculture.

Except we haven't proven that the lesbian version *is* the original sense of the term/usage of boi, it hasn't yet been formally accepted into the language. 

boi is a neologism:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neologism

Here's the wikipedia discussion from when they debated deleting the entry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Boi_(gender)

I did some *very basic and by no means binding* hunting around online and found dated references for boi as a lesbian term back to 2004, and for emo (and goth) usage of the word back to 2000.  Avril  Lavigne's sk8ter boi song was 2002.  Now those dates don't mean much of anything other than to indicate there have been multiple usages of the word for the short duration of its lifespan.  Sorry, but it has multiple meanings although they all revolve around a common root word: boy.


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RE: Straight males and the word "boi" - 3/7/2008 1:59:36 PM   
beargonewild


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Status: offline 		It may not be proven that the lesbian version is right or wrong. Yet the majority in the lesbian community do use boi/gyrl/womyn/gurl in every day comversations. Granted they probably were altered to fit their sense of community and difference from the gay population. In a similar  manner the gay males adopted "boy" to indicate a young bear or cib, any young gay male unlike a twink, or in a Daddy/son dynamoic where the son is often referred to as "my boy."  Mind you, there are other examples and I'm just listing a few.
Language does change and evolve over time and the alteration of it's usage in our language. Much in the same way, many slang terms gradually make it into mainstream dictionaries and are thusly accepted as part of modern language.


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RE: Straight males and the word "boi" - 3/7/2008 2:00:41 PM   
Madame4a


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Status: offline 		I'll report I've been a leather dyke for a lot longer than 2004.. and suggest that the word boi was used as boijen has stated at least since 1995

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RE: Straight males and the word "boi" - 3/7/2008 2:12:48 PM   
MsKittyBlack


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Status: offline 		If not before hand. While, often in major cities, it's found that the gay male and lesbian crowds don't mix (that's changing) there was an adaptation as more lesbians got more out about being into this BDSM thing we do. That adaptation now looks like "Syr/boi" and some other words listed...as someone once said "in immitation of the Sir/Daddy/boy" relationships often found within the gay male community.

MsKitty's boijen

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