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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 5:51:08 PM   
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doll, something just hit me this morning as I began reading this thread. You remind me so SO MUCH of someone near and dear to me......as she was a few years ago. I don't know how much of her story you will relate to but I am going to tell you a very condensed brief version. Hopefully in her story you will find something that will help you.

Today she is 27 years old, happily married and excitedly expecting her first child. She still struggles with depression and is still seriously overweight just so that you are aware, her life is not storybook perfect.

She was a lovely, dramatic baby and toddler. Yet when she got too tired, she suffered night terrors. A few years ago it surfaced in her mind that she had been sexually abused by a male family member at a very young age. No one is still sure what her age, at the time, was. Her parents had troubles, father an alchoholic and occasional drug abuser. Mother just naive and immature. She had an older brother (by one year) that she always felt was more favoured in many ways. Always the girl angst and drama of, no one understands me.

Her mother left her father when it became apparent the drinking and activities it spurred were worsening and detrimental to her children. They lived in poverty for several years, and with the shadow of what insane stunt the often MIA dad was going to do next. He would disappear, sometimes for years, they suddenly reappear proclaiming love and devotion. Even after her mother remarried and provided a more stable environment.

The girl had never been really thin but at puberty she began to gain weight, also the drama and theatrics increased. Even talks of suicide. Often times very defiant, even with a strict but also very loving home life. With the increases came therapy, much therapy. Trying to find the right doctor, the doctors trying to find the right medications. The girl didn't do well in school, ADD they said. Parents were adamant about getting an education, much fuss over skipping school, not doing school work, failing grades.

With the weight gain and other issues there was a low self esteem. Not uncommon in a teenage girl. She was a very social girl and usually had quite a few friends. Her parents almost always liked her friends and they often spent a great deal of time at the house. No cause for concern there. On the surface the girl should have had a fairly happy life. Yet always bubbling under the surface the depression and mood swings. Then it was discovered that there was increasing alchohol abuse, and addition to a cold medication. Boxes and boxes of capsules taken in a few days time. More hospitalizations both for physical and mental, more "helpful drugs" cocktails. No perfect cure, never the cure. In desperation her mother even tried many holistic and alternative avenues. Still nothing that would "fix" whatever ailed the girl.

Somehow she managed to graduate high school, even began community college. That lasted less than two months. The family rules, the same her brother had had, if you are not a full time student. You work full time and pay rent after you've gotten 4 months rent free to save your money if you wish to live on your own. If you do not move out you pay rent and you still follow the rules of the house.

Ultimately she moved into her own place, sharing it with friends. Always some financial drama, always changing jobs. Several times beginning college only to quit. Still fighting depression and a host of other issues......restless leg syndrome that would not allow her to sleep....digestive issues and obsessive eating issues......cutting.......etc. Also, several attempted rapes at parties, in there somewhere.

All this time she had never really had an interest in dating. Never a serious "boyfriend". Sure, she'd had crushes but usually on someone so unattainable and safe there was no chance of actually dating them. There was even a period of time she decided she must be a lesbian because she just didn't want anything to do with the phsysical aspects of dating men. What a dramatic thing she made of that announcement!! Then after a few attempts there, decided that was not for her either. She just gave up on dating and having a relationship. Instead hung out with gay guys. Male companionship without the sex.

Several more hospitalizations because of suicidal thoughts, more job hopping, more financial dramas. More on and off medications.

Finally one day several years ago, the girl decided that perhaps what her mother had been telling her had some grains of truth. "We are each responsible for our own happiness." "No matter what crap life throws at you, you are responsible for how you allow it to affect you" "Quit dragging out the big book of excuses for why you fail!" "No one is going to do it for you!"

She decided to take responsibility for her life. Yes, she will always need a little help with her depression and mood swings. She now knows that she has to be watchful of herself, see the signs of the bi-polar (or whatever the current in phrase is for it) highs and lows, and has learned better ways to deal with both. Sure, she still has days where she makes bad choices, calls her mother crying........but they are getting less and less. Yes, she is still overweight, she may always be. But she knows that she alone, owns that. No one else.

Basically, she grew up alot. Realized that if she wants to be better, feel better, have the life she wants......SHE HAS TO FIGHT FOR IT! If a doctor isn't helping, demand another. If a medication sucks, tell the doctor that prescribed it and demand help. Research everything. She spends alot of time at the public library and online. If a behaviour is destructive FIGHT to change it.

This young woman quit being a victim and became a fighter. Fighting for her health and her own happiness. It has not been an easy battle, far from it. Many lost skirmishes. But she refuses to quit fighting.

Doll, somewhere inside yourself you have the same abilities. If you didn't, you would have given up, and offed yourself already. The fact that you are bringing your drama here is not only a cry for help, but also shows a desire to get better. You just have yet, to toss away the excuse book and learn to own, your own life. It will come in time. Not one of us on here has the magic answer for you. Quit looking for it. You have your own answers, you're just refusing or not ready, to see them yet.

There is no easy cure, no magic pill, no instant fix. Accept that. You are going to have to work hard, harder than you want, harder than you can even imagine. But the harder you work at it, the easier it will get. And, the peace you crave will begin to flow into your life. Many of the things you struggle with, you may always struggle with. They will just become easier to cope with. You just have to stop making them walls and welcome them as life lessons. Lessons that will make you stronger.



I am sure I may be leaving important things out and for this I appologise. It has been a bumpy ride with this girl.


I don't see where I have much in common with her...I mean, sure we were both abused...but thats about all. I was a straight A student...did very well in school...a perfectionist...wasn't very social...I have always been very shy. I did have a couple friends from childhood that I had known for most of my life but I wasn't very close with them and they didn't really know me. I have no friends now, only people I talk to are my parents and medical professionals. I have never been to a party in my life. I don't drink and have never done drugs.


You have totally missed my point........continue on with your pity party and book of excuses......

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 5:52:42 PM   
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After reading this whole thread I have to agree that you, Doll, have problems that certainly will not be solved here (or perhaps anywhere ) because you seem to lack the capacity or will to take action to help yourself. Obviously, getting advice and therapy isn't helping because you have to get off your ass and take action. Some people are just constitutionally incapable of being honest with themselves, and, until you can be, there is no hope of being honest with anyone. And that leaves you fucked for life.  Sometimes, the best help is a hard kick in the ass. Get off yours and DO something to help yourself, or not...it's all up to you.
As for the dramatics and attention seking, I've had enough too. More than enough. I'm out of this thread.



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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 6:00:01 PM   
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Ever though of becoming a lesbian?


whats a lesbian??? or do you mean wesbian weech of death...like me?


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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 6:06:59 PM   
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You have totally missed my point........continue on with your pity party and book of excuses......



I have never missed your points...Especially when it is just a tad bit chilly out...I would like to attend the pity party...Dammit! the only party favor I have is this huge cock...Where should I put this thang?

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 6:08:49 PM   
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I would like to attend the pity party...Damn the only party favor I have is this huge cock!


thinks has just the thing to wrap it in

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 6:09:19 PM   
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Blah blah blah.  Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.  Blah blah blah?  Blah!

What else can I say, after reading your postings Dollspart, using actual words that make sense would be a complete and total waste of my time.


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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 6:38:34 PM   
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well, be some happy..you manage to talk about it..in public.  That is a good thing :)
PErhaps a little step..but it is one..and many little steps...will be once a big one.








A BIG ditto to the above.   The changes that Doll seeks will not happen overnight, the ship is frustratingly slow to turn but it does turn.

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 6:40:54 PM   
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Ever though of becoming a lesbian?


whats a lesbian??? or do you mean wesbian weech of death...like me?




[tongue in cheek humor on]   You just haven't met the right man baby.  [/tongue in cheek humor off]

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 7:21:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

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Ever though of becoming a lesbian?


whats a lesbian??? or do you mean wesbian weech of death...like me?


 
I apologize ahead of time...just can't help myself
 
how do you make a hormone? ( whore moan )
refuse to pay her..
 
how do you make a lesbian ? ( lez be IN )
buy her a strap-on..
 
so sorry.
 

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 7:25:41 PM   
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Doll,
You are going to get many suggestions that you basically put a stop to all sex, bdsm, and everything similar, for at least a year, to give yourself time to work on yourself. This is actually a really good idea. Making a decision to swear off all sex for a year can help you impower yourself to say no. It's like having an excuse. 'No, I've been going through some stuff and I decided to spend this year being celibate. I figure anybody I meet with real potential will still be around next year. So, wanna go grab a coffee?' If they hang around, its a good sign.
If you are not going to be able to do that, I have a couple of other suggestions. The first is that you consider finding yourself a mentor. Do not meet with anyone until they write to or speak with your mentor, and you get your mentors okay to meet with them. Do not play with anyone on the first date, and not until you have your mentors permission to move from meeting to play. Again, impowers you to say no. ("I'm sorry, I don't play without P's permission. I will let him know our meeting went well...). IMPE, having a mentor worked GREAT for me, I guess it depends on what you want out of it. 95% of the men you meet online on BDSM sites will not write to another Dominate man. culls them out rather nicely, then you only have to deal with the 5% who have both the honor and the balls.
My last suggestion is the most radical. You say on your profile that you are looking for a Daddy Dom. I suggest you do some web searches and research the age play lifestyle. I think you might do well in a sex free age play dynamic. I have known little girl subs who lived in sex free dynamics for years, who eventually became 'ready' for sex, which they either had with their Daddies, or under their Daddies direction. It gives a chance to spend time recovering, being reparented, getting ready to do what YOU want, on your time. See if you can google Guardian Island. It used to be a SIG off of the Submiss group, which I belonged to years and years ago, and it was made up mostly of sex-free age players, as opposed to those who were open to including sex in their age play dynamic.

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 7:58:16 PM   
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That sounds great. Thank you. I will google it and try to find it.

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 9:03:19 PM   
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Doll-
                            what it sound's like is you need to get in touch with a support group in your area (victims of past sexual abuse ) it's theraputic to hear other's stories and how they overcame that kind of pain .Also hearing other's stories make's you less self focussed .Im not being mean here ,but when all you have is pain and not empathy for other's then it's me me me  but once you hear and witness other's pain and survival and learn there is worse there is different your not the only one  it wasn't you it was whoever abused you .But through your risky behaviors you are feeding this keeping the abuse alive like it was yesterday.

witnessing and hearing others in your pain will motivate you  to change the pattern and you stop idenifiying as the victim and having a victim mentality .You take on a survivior mode and soon your whole mind shifts in it's thinking.Your life changes cause you change and those negative times when someone might make you feel like they aren't helping you ,you realize" hey i also need to do some inner work here" .you have a self imposed failure thinking why even try i'm too damaged get rid of that (sexual abuse is like unconsentual self bondage you keep tying yourself up ) You might be  sending messages maybe you don't even know what they are -samples are hey i'm not going open to you ,you won't like me ,you don't like me, then it changes to you hate me and then you are hurting me, do you see the cycle ?As for the professional he/she has no idea the war of words and thoughts that are twirling in your mind .
Number one - It wasn't your fault you had no choice when this happened but now you have chances to rewrite your future you don't have to be a statstic you can move beyond .Right now you need to say outloud (I REFUSE TO BE MY OWN VICTIM ) or anyone elses .
When that happens and you stop buying into you are a product of your abuse then you can heal and begin to see yourself differently.Postive tapes replace those self negative ones then good gravitates to you .
People will treat you differently cause you will smile and begin teaching them exactly how you will be treated without even opening your mouth, by the way you stand conduct yourself and then once you do talk they will listen cause you will not be speaking as a victim and want attention it's like  you have a screaming child inside you saying ( I matter look at me pay attention to me please )your story is important and can one day be a help to others but the way you seek help here it's a desperate attempt to feed that victim getting ooohs and ahhhs and you have a false comfort until the next fix.

  Best advice my therapist told me was " smile even if you don't feel like it," it will change the outcome of your day< fake it until it feels natural,> cause abuse victims don't know what happy is cause so many boundries were trampled on ,you lose trust and self love it can and has destroyed people. Your self driven actions of this person and that person hates me doesn't do there job there's a chance it's YOU how you respond to someone trying to help you .That's the victim in you holding on to the title ,it's scary once you get help you lose the title of victim and well that's your indenity now change is hard .

Victim mentality is a comfort cause you were abused and hurt you might be pulling away from help out of fear of the unknown healthy mind thoughts and yes even learning to love yourself .It's scary to place that mirror to your face and get to know the person you hate but it's the only way.
Why do I use the term hate cause it has to be true your killing yourself from within part of yourself feeds this (monster ) inside you in some cases it's self abuse self hate and it's dangerous .Your losing this war little by little once you get real with getting well it's a battle .
If this monster isn't destroyed it's like a shapeshifter and will morph into different things through out your life you must confront it and then get rid of it's control over you and it's done only when you are so fed up feeling so damn worthless and sorry for yourself that you then DEMAND your life back and regain control.
  As for meeting a guy then sleeping with him and he dumps you ,well you wrote that script to happen it played that way cause you let it .It renforces your victimlogy keeps you from healing .Change well it isn't comfortable and it's work alot of work but if you do the work from the inside it will show on the outside .
  Once you find yourself accept you and yes love you then and only then will you change these scripts of your life and find self fulfillment only then will you find a life partner who won't use you ,cause you will be stronger and have a strong sense of how you should be treated .
                                  please don't take my post in a bad way i'm a survivor get out of the river of pain and self doubt hate and revictimizing behaviors it doesn't have to be your comfort zone anymore .
                                                                   I hope this helps you

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 9:31:45 PM   
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a living doll -
Reminds me of my favorite recovery poem.

AUTOBIOGRAPHY IN FIVE SHORT CHAPTERS By Portia Nelson


I walk, down the street There is a deep hole in the sidewalk. I fall in I am lost. I am helpless It isn't my fault. It takes forever to find a way out.

II I walk down the same street. There is a deep hole in the sidewalk. I pretend I don't see it. I fall in again. I can't believe I am in the same place. But it isn't my fault. It still takes a long time to get out.

III I walk down the same street There is a deep hole in the sidewalk. I see it is there. I still fall in. . . it's a habit. My eyes are open I know where I am. It is my fault. I get out immediately.

IV I walk down the same street. There is a deep hole in the sidewalk. I walk around it.

V I walk down another street.

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 9:48:13 PM   
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a living doll -
Reminds me of my favorite recovery poem.

AUTOBIOGRAPHY IN FIVE SHORT CHAPTERS By Portia Nelson


I walk, down the street There is a deep hole in the sidewalk. I fall in I am lost. I am helpless It isn't my fault. It takes forever to find a way out.

II I walk down the same street. There is a deep hole in the sidewalk. I pretend I don't see it. I fall in again. I can't believe I am in the same place. But it isn't my fault. It still takes a long time to get out.

III I walk down the same street There is a deep hole in the sidewalk. I see it is there. I still fall in. . . it's a habit. My eyes are open I know where I am. It is my fault. I get out immediately.

IV I walk down the same street. There is a deep hole in the sidewalk. I walk around it.

V I walk down another street.


Thank you tsatske. I've never seen that before and it is brilliant.

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/8/2008 11:27:44 PM   
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I LOVE that story thank you for bringing it up.

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/9/2008 12:24:16 AM   
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By the way, the reasons the therapists have passed you from one to the next is because either you aren't being truthful and forthright (and if you can't open up to your therapist how are you going to solve anything), you make up excuses for your behavior instead of trying to get better, and/or people exhibiting histrionics are such an energy-suck that they just can't help you. Doing therapy with someone when the person will not benefit from it is considered "not medically necessary" at best and malpractice at worst. They know they cannot help you so they pass you to the next in the hopes that the next therapist will find some way to break through with you.

Cali



I had a lot of bad experiences in therapy...like my first intake...the guy doing my intake asked if I had a boyfriend and I said no, I don't want one. And he said that I was lying and that all 16 year old girls want a boyfriend and shit...and I felt like something was totally wrong with me...and then my one therapist, she would threaten to drop me every single time I saw her which would make me cry b/c I wanted to get well but I just couldn't do what she was asking of me. She said I HAD to go to school or get a job, or I was wasting her time. And at the time I could barely leave the house just to go to her appointments.

I tried talking about cutting with her (I don't do that anymore, I just did as a kid) and she said it was "self masturbation" which really embarrassed me and I tried explaining to her that it was NOT sexual at all...but she wouldn't listen.

And then, at 18, I finally told my therapist at the time that I was throwing up and had been for several years. He told my psychiatrist, and my psychiatrist told my mother, without my permission.


I am not "buying her story at all.  One person can't run into every asshole therapist in the world.  Nope not buying it. 

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/9/2008 6:54:05 AM   
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a living doll -
Reminds me of my favorite recovery poem.

AUTOBIOGRAPHY IN FIVE SHORT CHAPTERS By Portia Nelson


I walk, down the street There is a deep hole in the sidewalk. I fall in I am lost. I am helpless It isn't my fault. It takes forever to find a way out.

II I walk down the same street. There is a deep hole in the sidewalk. I pretend I don't see it. I fall in again. I can't believe I am in the same place. But it isn't my fault. It still takes a long time to get out.

III I walk down the same street There is a deep hole in the sidewalk. I see it is there. I still fall in. . . it's a habit. My eyes are open I know where I am. It is my fault. I get out immediately.

IV I walk down the same street. There is a deep hole in the sidewalk. I walk around it.

V I walk down another street.


Thanks Tsatske... I love that one also, thanks for reminding me about it and for bring it here.
 
It is so relevant  to this...but also relevant to all our lives, when you think about it.   We all have struggles and mistakes we deal with and hopefully learn from.
 
Thanks again
 
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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/9/2008 7:11:40 AM   
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It is a Constant in Recovery

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I LOVE that story thank you for bringing it up.

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Steel


Congrats Steel  : )
 
 

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/9/2008 7:15:48 AM   
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dollparts85
I need to stop sleeping with men I just meet online LOL they just use me and then disappear *sighs* I need to get a real relationship and go slow and get used to everything...and not have sex within an hour of meeting
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dollparts85
We had talked online and on the phone and cammed for a long time before we met...
 If  you always tell the truth  you don't have to remember what  you've typed


What is confusing you? We had sex within an hour of meeting IN PERSON...we talked online first...and on the phone...


Your backpeddling skills need work

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RE: I don't even *like* sex... - 3/9/2008 10:11:52 AM   
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i got smart, i read the OP and then skipped to the last page...

dollparts...no one is going to help you if you won't help yourself...i am sure there has been a ton of great advice that has been given in this thread...but you have shat on it because you just wanted to someone to verify that what you were feeling was right, even though you formed it in the possible asking for help...so i'll tell you what...when you have done some work on yourself, i will put some effort into responding to your posts...i will put 100% into helping someone, but they have to put 100% into helping themselves at the same time...i got out of a very similar situation...tons of people have got out of situations just like yours...that doesn't make your situation any worse or any better...it just makes you just like them, you are not that unique...get over yourself...when you are ready to make some sort of effort to get out of that hole you keep digging...there are people around who know how to get out....

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