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RE: Daddies - 3/14/2008 10:13:29 AM   
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Oh i don't know sparkling, considering how many of us that enjoy and engage in that type of dynamic have had to tolerate the squicked out looks and snide comments from others, i hardly consider it an "in thing".   Those of use who enjoy it will not cast it aside as a trendy thing.  It simply is the dynamic and power exchance some people enjoy.  Disparaging those who either enjoy it, or those who do not, seems a bit "snobbish" and condescending to me.  Just my thoughts...


Funny, the only people that have acted "squicked" by it are those in the "lifestyle"... my family and friends have never reacted like people on CM about it.

Just my experience

julia

Edited to add, you will always find those who need to denigrate what people share because of their own issues... I find it better to just write those sorts of snarky passive aggressive insults off.


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RE: Daddies - 3/14/2008 10:18:34 AM   
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i can only speak from my own personal experience, and in that experience, i have been give those looks, and heard those comments from friends... not just other kinky people.  i simply cannot imagine telling anyone in my family that i am into a D/lg dynamic.  Most likely they would be on the phone looking for a therapist to cure me.

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RE: Daddies - 3/14/2008 10:27:47 AM   
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i can only speak from my own personal experience, and in that experience, i have been give those looks, and heard those comments from friends... not just other kinky people.  i simply cannot imagine telling anyone in my family that i am into a D/lg dynamic.  Most likely they would be on the phone looking for a therapist to cure me.


I live with and told my mother (I wasn't 'caught', I outright told her, discussed some with her about it). I've had no issue with it. She's not really all that for my wearing diapers, but not really against it, she treats it as something that's personal about me, and that it's not about her. As for ageplay, she seems to be rather neutral there, not for or against.

Note that my mother isn't really into BDSM (as far as I know), and most people would consider her vanilla, but she's rather open-minded.


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RE: Daddies - 3/14/2008 10:29:24 AM   
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i simply cannot imagine telling anyone in my family that i am into a D/lg dynamic.


I did not tell them that he is my Daddy Dom, although I do not consider my role as that of "little girl". I told them that is my term of endearment for him. I also call him by his first name sometimes, I also call him Sweetheart, I will also refer to him as Honey. You realize that Ronald and Nancy Reagan also referred to each other as "mommy" and "daddy"? My step grandparents called each other that. My mom's husband also called my mom "grandma" when my UM was born... so I suppose it isn't considered unusual in my family for people to call each other such terms of endearment...

I know that in my first D/s relationship I called him "sir" in public and "master" in private. It never felt quite right because we had an intellectual based relationship, and although there was a power exchange also, I never have felt that any man was the "master" of me... I have never desired to be "mastered". It holds no pleasant connotations for me. It isn't intimate to me, and it would not suit me on a spiritual level. I could never bond permanently to someone that had me call him that... but that is just me, etc.

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RE: Daddies - 3/14/2008 10:30:23 AM   
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You are very lucky! i can talk to my mother about almost anything... but this aspect of me?  No way.  

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RE: Daddies - 3/14/2008 10:42:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SinergyNstrumpet


Edited to add, you will always find those who need to denigrate what people share because of their own issues... I find it better to just write those sorts of snarky passive aggressive insults off.



good point julia     at times i do need to remind myself to just look away.   As i do try not to judge other's kinks, it gets frustrating to hear passive agressive comments about people's kinks (whether or not i even share that particular kink oddly enough)  and turn a blind eye.  Something i need to work on, obviously.

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RE: Daddies - 3/14/2008 11:04:31 AM   
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Edited to add, you will always find those who need to denigrate what people share because of their own issues... I find it better to just write those sorts of snarky passive aggressive insults off.


There you go again with your snarky passive aggressive comment.
If it was in any way- directed at me - your going the wrong way on a one way st.

I am NOT squicked out in any way. I dont have anything againist anyone who is into the daddy/lilgirl thing.

I said what was witten was IMO not a daddy dom, that those same qualities  were  what my dom had, he treated me with as much care-love etc as what is written, however I could never imagine calling him daddy. He was Not a father figure to me.

So you call sin daddy good for you. And I'm sure your family views that as a term of endearment. I called my husband daddy sometimes as well as a cute term of enderament around my family as well. I see however your family is not aware you call him daddy within a D/s relationship- why not? why hide that fact

quote:

sweetwhencie
Disparaging those who either enjoy it, or those who do not, seems a bit "snobbish" and condescending to me.  Just my thoughts... 


So I am also snobbish and condescending ?  lol  Good lord.
I said nothing about it being wrong or I disliked it- again just stated I didnt  view as daddy. What is written makes it sound as though, ONLY  "daddy doms" posess those quailities, Not true.

The comment on IN Thing was meant as- a few years ago there were mentions of slaves  then there was slaves slaves slaves written all over the boards. I view this daddy dom as the same- all over the threads. I just see it dieing down in time. Not that it will dissapear all together of couse not.

Any way I know I am wasting my time here. Those with the problem of people who disagree will not read what I have typed. They already made up their minds and are the ones who lack the ability to see we all can have a difference of opinion because theirs is the only right one.

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RE: Daddies - 3/14/2008 11:12:59 AM   
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There you go again with your snarky passive aggressive comment.
If it was in any way- directed at me - your going the wrong way on a one way st.

I am NOT squicked out in any way. I dont have anything againist anyone who is into the daddy/lilgirl thing.

I said what was witten was IMO not a daddy dom, that those same qualities were what my dom had, he treated me with as much care-love etc as what is written, however I could never imagine calling him daddy. He was Not a father figure to me.

So you call sin daddy good for you. And I'm sure your family views that as a term of endearment. I called my husband daddy sometimes as well as a cute term of enderament around my family as well. I see however your family is not aware you call him daddy within a D/s relationship- why not? why hide that fact


There have been a lot of people on this thread that are squicked by daddy doms. If you feel that my post was pointed at you when several submissives on this thread feel the need to defend their dynamics from people who passively aggressively insult calling our partners "daddy" is your choice.

I do think that your saying that we call our doms "daddy" because it is "in" was insulting to those of us that have this sort of relationship. As far as what you share with those you have a power exchange with, it is not my concern, nor even in my thoughts. I do not judge it as less than what I have, it has no importance to my life. I am not one to go around comparing my relationship with other people's relationships because that is just idiotic in my mind, and a sign of insecurity.


I would wonder why you care about my level of comfort in sharing the intimate details of my personal life with friends and family. It has no relevance to the thread, and I was just clarifying for someone else my situation. My reasons for not telling me family that we are D/s are my own, and not something I want to share on this thread... I will say this, my family know I am a masochist... because I felt it important that they understand that in case they ever see marks that they might attribute to abuse.

julia

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RE: Daddies - 3/14/2008 11:28:47 AM   
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Thansks for the read lusciouslips...
 
Hard to put into words <for me>... what *its* like ...and whoever wrote that article did a good job of wording *it*.
 
I will agree with you...sometimes Daddy just has to hurt....her.
 
Tsk Tsk


Yum yum. Makes me want to be bad. Like when I used my bra as a slingshot!

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RE: Daddies - 3/14/2008 11:31:20 AM   
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quote:

sweetwenchie
Disparaging those who either enjoy it, or those who do not, seems a bit "snobbish" and condescending to me.  Just my thoughts... 


So I am also snobbish and condescending ?  lol  Good lord.
I said nothing about it being wrong or I disliked it- again just stated I didnt  view as daddy. What is written makes it sound as though, ONLY  "daddy doms" posess those quailities, Not true.

The comment on IN Thing was meant as- a few years ago there were mentions of slaves  then there was slaves slaves slaves written all over the boards. I view this daddy dom as the same- all over the threads. I just see it dieing down in time. Not that it will dissapear all together of couse not.

Any way I know I am wasting my time here. Those with the problem of people who disagree will not read what I have typed. They already made up their minds and are the ones who lack the ability to see we all can have a difference of opinion because theirs is the only right one.


Why bother comparing your relationship to a D/lg one?  The point of this thread was questions in regard to that particular dynamic, not whether only Daddy Dominants posses those types of traits as posted by luscious.  

Your personal relationship has no baring on my life nor my viewpoints.  i am not going to judge you because you are not in a D/lg relationship, what would be the point? 

Whether or not there will be fewer references to Daddy Dominants is of no consequence to me or the way i choose to live my life.  i stated it "seemed" snobbish and condescending as i do not know you at all, i would hardly state that is exactly how you were, or that was your intent when posting. 

As your last paragraph does not include me i raeally have nothing at all to say in regards to it.

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RE: Daddies - 3/14/2008 11:40:15 AM   
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quote:

There you go again with your snarky passive aggressive comment.
If it was in any way- directed at me - your going the wrong way on a one way st.

I am NOT squicked out in any way. I dont have anything againist anyone who is into the daddy/lilgirl thing.

I said what was witten was IMO not a daddy dom, that those same qualities were what my dom had, he treated me with as much care-love etc as what is written, however I could never imagine calling him daddy. He was Not a father figure to me.

So you call sin daddy good for you. And I'm sure your family views that as a term of endearment. I called my husband daddy sometimes as well as a cute term of enderament around my family as well. I see however your family is not aware you call him daddy within a D/s relationship- why not? why hide that fact


There have been a lot of people on this thread that are squicked by daddy doms. If you feel that my post was pointed at you when several submissives on this thread feel the need to defend their dynamics from people who passively aggressively insult calling our partners "daddy" is your choice.

I do think that your saying that we call our doms "daddy" because it is "in" was insulting to those of us that have this sort of relationship. As far as what you share with those you have a power exchange with, it is not my concern, nor even in my thoughts. I do not judge it as less than what I have, it has no importance to my life. I am not one to go around comparing my relationship with other people's relationships because that is just idiotic in my mind, and a sign of insecurity.


I would wonder why you care about my level of comfort in sharing the intimate details of my personal life with friends and family. It has no relevance to the thread, and I was just clarifying for someone else my situation. My reasons for not telling me family that we are D/s are my own, and not something I want to share on this thread... I will say this, my family know I am a masochist... because I felt it important that they understand that in case they ever see marks that they might attribute to abuse.

julia



Swtnsparklin

I dont think anyone was directing things at you or attacking you. You dont have to be so defensive. You are right a good Dom/master is a good Dom/Master. A daddy/Dom is a kind master. It really doesnt matter what you call him so long as the dynamic is a good one. I call mine Daddy most of the time or Sir. Its more fitting I think. It has nothing to do with ageplay and its not a fad. I do think its easier to digest when entering the lifestyle when you are not looking for a leatherclad sadist. Many hear the description and say,"yes, thats what I want" or "yes, that is who I am in my dominance: So if it isnt a Daddy dom but a good Master, so what?



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RE: Daddies - 3/14/2008 12:21:09 PM   
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Bra`s?
 
I thought they threw them out in the 60`s...=laughs=
 
Thanks for the laugh...
 
Oh, I agree..amyone can have those kind of characteristics..
 
I don`t consider myself *this or that*...it all depends on who I am with and how the dynamics of that relationship evolve over time...

Each to their own...
 
 

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RE: Daddies - 3/14/2008 12:50:43 PM   
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Lucs-  I don't feel for a second I was being attacked or said it was ageplay lets not throw words in there alrighty? However she can say all she wants it was not directed towards me, but I do know it was- it is her pattern. Not defensive either - I was explaining My opinion tis all.  Thought:  Wondering If my opinion is concidered devensive then aren't everyones

Strumpet-  you can go on and on how what I think- feel -say doesnt bother you at all. you have said that to soooo many on soooo many different threads, Ha! we all know it does bother you or you would not feel the need too keep annouceing it. And respond with such vigor

wenchie
quote:

Whether or not there will be fewer references to Daddy Dominants is of no consequence to me or the way i choose to live my life.
   Hmm did I say it was?

quote:

swtnsparkling
Any way I know I am wasting my time here. Those with the problem of people who disagree will not read what I have typed. They already made up their minds and are the ones who lack the ability to see we all can have a difference of opinion because theirs is the only right one.


LOL  predictable  replys

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RE: Daddies - 3/14/2008 12:53:19 PM   
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i have a pattern? Wow!   i do hope it is a dress pattern, i need a new little black dress.   Oh wait, or were you referring to the other person? 

     i keep saying to each their own, whatever works for you, and all that jazz.  Perhaps that IS my pattern...  ~off to ponder this~

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RE: Daddies - 3/14/2008 12:59:38 PM   
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Why is it that anytime someone tries to explain that their definition of something is the same just carries a different title ...a " war seems to break out" ... to me it is no different than explaining that what I call a soda .. you call a pop ..  .. or another calls it a coke....it is just imparting information....in other words .. a rose by any other name is still ............

Its not judgemental .... ... just a learning or shareing of information or perceptions... not fodder for a "war"

I hope that the above definition describes me .. and yet I have called my submissives "baby... baby girl ... or baby boy" but would kill anyone calling me "mommie" and have never thought of myself as a mommie domme ....I would hope the definition would describe a great dominant no matter the adjective attatched to the Dominant title.

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RE: Daddies - 3/14/2008 1:38:35 PM   
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Just popping in here with an outsiders perspective.

When I first heard of the daddy/little girl thing, my reaction was "Oh my god...these men are pretending to sleep with little girls? They're pretending to fuck their own little girl daughters? And these women are fantasizing about sleepign with their father?! The hell is wrong with these people?! "

But then - I did some reading and got a (very) basic understanding of it. Not my thing, but who cares? I think my reaction is the same as many people may have when first hearing of the daddy/little girl thing.


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RE: Daddies - 3/14/2008 1:44:02 PM   
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Strumpet-  you can go on and on how what I think- feel -say doesnt bother you at all. you have said that to soooo many on soooo many different threads, Ha! we all know it does bother you or you would not feel the need too keep announcing it. And respond with such vigor

wenchie
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Whether or not there will be fewer references to Daddy Dominants is of no consequence to me or the way i choose to live my life.
   Hmm did I say it was?

quote:

swtnsparkling
Any way I know I am wasting my time here. Those with the problem of people who disagree will not read what I have typed. They already made up their minds and are the ones who lack the ability to see we all can have a difference of opinion because theirs is the only right one.


LOL  predictable  replys


I'm confused???
You quoted your own words and called them predictable!

By golly, I think you snarked yourself!!

Edited cause i cant type..

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RE: Daddies - 3/14/2008 1:47:58 PM   
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Thank you, since I consider myself a DaddyDom, you have outlined my feeling, mission as it were for my sub's.

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RE: Daddies - 3/14/2008 2:16:52 PM   
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Thank you, since I consider myself a DaddyDom, you have outlined my feeling, mission as it were for my sub's.


Thank you. I am not the poster child for D/lg relations. I just love to google and reseach things for source material. I have found many a poiniant article on daddy doms. made me want one. I find it easier to call my Sir,  Daddy then Master. it just comes out of my mouth very naturally. He is the only one I have ever called daddy outside of my own father. I dont correlate them. Except that daddies want to protect their own and he sees the little girl inside the women and brings her out sometimes.

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RE: Daddies - 3/14/2008 3:30:34 PM   
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Wow I never really understood the Daddy Dom thing until I read that.  Now that I have read that I not only respect and understand it, but admire it. It is not for me but I do see why it would appeal to others. Another learning situation for me. Thanks.


That's all great.  Please keep in mind, though, that what was described was not "the" Daddy Dom thing but rather "one" Daddy Dom thing. .

Consider the full spectrum of actual  parental relationships. Many of them parallel the perhaps idealized description given in the earlier post. Many others don't. Just as actual parental relationship can vary tremendously, their kinky analogs can too.

Hopefully this charming paragraph snipped from a blog somewhere won't harden into some sort of dogma which defines the True DDom, implying thereby that anything else is false or otherwise inferior.

There are wonderful submissives who want a "Daddy" who doesn't much resemble that blog's rose-colored model. Reading this thread they might be tempted toward confusion or self doubt. I think that would be a pity.

I think rose is a wonderful color, myself. I'll support anyone's choice to operate in that mode. It is one in which I have had beautiful experiences myself. All the same, the crayons which have written love notes to me over the years have sometimes been in colors very far from rose.








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