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RE: Is it time for Sen.Clinton to concede - 3/22/2008 1:27:27 PM   
pahunkboy


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The 24th is the last day one can register to votein PA.  [for this primary]

It should be interesting. Governor Rendell  thinks he will deliver the state to Hillary.  When it isnt quite that simple.

I dont view PA as like Ohio. Not at all.  PA is more like upstate new york, and Maryland, even Jersey, but not Ohio.

I also dont think the race demographics will come into play, in PA.

Basically you have the Pocano area which is an after thought to metr NY,  sprawal north of DC/Baltimore,   Phily which seems to never end.   Pittsburgh which is its own world, and Erie which no one ever goes to.   Which brings us back to sprawal.

Increased registration for whom?  Hillary or Obama?

BTW- voter lists are public knowledge. PA can be interestig. It is densely poplulated.  Urban vs rural the unlying current on most every issue.

I doubt Hillary will take PA.  It could be

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RE: Is it time for Sen.Clinton to concede - 3/22/2008 2:53:01 PM   
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This is a fantastic opportunity to show how strong and capable a leader she will be.


If by 'strong' you mean 'petty' and by 'capable' you mean weasely. Then I agree.

Hillary is a weasel, plain and simple. The writing's on the wall that she would step aside, but she's too much of a gash to do that for the good of the party.

I didn't think I could hate her more until I saw her debate against Obama where she continued to attempt to direct the proceedings and then repeatedly called Obama a liar afterward when all he did was quote the words that came out of that over-sized pie hole in her face.

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RE: Is it time for Sen.Clinton to concede - 3/22/2008 2:54:14 PM   
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just chiming in with a "right on" to you guys.    Madame President, I can't wait. 


For the sake of this country, I hope you're waiting an AWFULLY long time. This will be the first election I have seen fit to vote in since I reached voting age. If Obama gets the nomination, I plan to vote for him. If Hillary does, looks like I'll be a temporary republican.


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RE: Is it time for Sen.Clinton to concede - 3/22/2008 3:36:03 PM   
slvemike4u


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RE: Is it time for Sen.Clinton to concede - 3/22/2008 3:42:02 PM   
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Obama cannot win this election by being "the black candidate." Even diehard Democrat analysts agree. He may win the Dem nomination, but he will fall flat in November. You cannot win an election on race.

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RE: Is it time for Sen.Clinton to concede - 3/22/2008 3:47:50 PM   
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This will be the first election I have seen fit to vote in since I reached voting age.


I sincerely hope you see fit to vote in every election from now on.

If people don't vote, then politicians can never be held to account.

Bitch, moan, scream, protest in whatever fashion you feel is warranted, but, for the love of liberty, VOTE.


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RE: Is it time for Sen.Clinton to concede - 3/22/2008 3:48:14 PM   
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RE: Is it time for Sen.Clinton to concede - 3/22/2008 3:53:20 PM   
Smith117


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Your kidding right Smith117 first time voting .How can an electorate that can't bother to vote complain about the price of gas ,moan about education or lack of ,but come election day your too busy!


Never said I was too busy on election day. Never complained about gas prices either as they don't affect those of us with little cars very much.

What I *did* say was that this will be the first election in which I intend to vote. The reason for that is that I do not believe that the "lesser of two evils" is any basis for a form of government. I refuse to choose the "least sucky" candidate when I don't like either one.

In *this* election, I believe in Obama. I believe he can do some good work. So, I plan to vote for him. However, between Hillary and McCain, I believe more in McCain. I don't agree with everything he said, but I'd rather see a war veteran in power than some chick who who can't even have a simple debate without acting like a total gash.

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RE: Is it time for Sen.Clinton to concede - 3/22/2008 3:56:59 PM   
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This will be the first election I have seen fit to vote in since I reached voting age.


I sincerely hope you see fit to vote in every election from now on.

If people don't vote, then politicians can never be held to account.

Bitch, moan, scream, protest in whatever fashion you feel is warranted, but, for the love of liberty, VOTE.



I plan to vote in every election where there is a candidate I can get behind. If not, no. I do not plan to vote. I refuse to be forced to choose someone simply because they "suck less" than the other guy.

And as George Carlin said, those of us who do not vote have EVERY right to complain about the mess you all created that we had nothing to do with.

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RE: Is it time for Sen.Clinton to concede - 3/22/2008 4:03:34 PM   
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I refuse to be forced to choose someone simply because they "suck less" than the other guy.


Strange logic.  The truth of the matter is that is the best reason to vote.

You have much to learn.


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RE: Is it time for Sen.Clinton to concede - 3/22/2008 4:09:13 PM   
slvemike4u


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RE: Is it time for Sen.Clinton to concede - 3/22/2008 4:12:01 PM   
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People who can't "be motivated "to vote get the government they deserve not the applause of an audience


It bears repeating.


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RE: Is it time for Sen.Clinton to concede - 3/22/2008 4:15:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Cyberdude what polls.He goes into denver ahead in delegates and ahead in popular vote, even the rosiest possible outcomes in the remaining primarys is going to leave  her behind entering the convention..



Superdelegates...
Obama has also yet to win a single big state.

As for November...the latest polls show Hillary would do better against McCain than Obama. As it stands right now, McCain is leading Obama in Pennsylvannia by 4 points, Ohio by 7 points, and Florida by 9 points (one poll has him up by 11 in Florida). And one poll has McCain leading in New Jersey. 
Hillary on the other hand is actually leading McCain in Ohio and only trails him by 3 points in Florida.

The Democrats are once again about to nominate the most unelectable candidate. If the Dems nominate Obama....McCain wins in November.

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RE: Is it time for Sen.Clinton to concede - 3/22/2008 4:18:55 PM   
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I refuse to be forced to choose someone simply because they "suck less" than the other guy.


Strange logic.  The truth of the matter is that is the best reason to vote.

You have much to learn.



Opinions vary. I can, however, say with complete certainty that I have never voted a moron into office. Never had *my* president do something stupid during his term and never had anyone make fun of *my* president. Can you say the same?

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RE: Is it time for Sen.Clinton to concede - 3/22/2008 4:20:06 PM   
slvemike4u


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Status: offline 		As i said earlier CyberDude wrangling the nomination is always a possibility especially taking into account these are the Clinton's we are talking about.The problem there is you tear the party apart your base is pissed that you took it out of their hands ,And McCain gets sworn in  as President in JAN.

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RE: Is it time for Sen.Clinton to concede - 3/22/2008 4:20:23 PM   
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Superdelegates...
Obama has also yet to win a single big state.

As for November...the latest polls show Hillary would do better against McCain than Obama. As it stands right now, McCain is leading Obama in Pennsylvannia by 4 points, Ohio by 7 points, and Florida by 9 points (one poll has him up by 11 in Florida). And one poll has McCain leading in New Jersey. 
Hillary on the other hand is actually leading McCain in Ohio and only trails him by 3 points in Florida.

The Democrats are once again about to nominate the most unelectable candidate. If the Dems nominate Obama....McCain wins in November.


You have it backwards. If Hillary is nominated, I, as well as many I have talked to, have already said we're supporting McCain.

If, however, Obama gets the nod, McCain and his 100 years in iraq comment does't have a chance.

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RE: Is it time for Sen.Clinton to concede - 3/22/2008 4:26:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Smith117

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Superdelegates...
Obama has also yet to win a single big state.

As for November...the latest polls show Hillary would do better against McCain than Obama. As it stands right now, McCain is leading Obama in Pennsylvannia by 4 points, Ohio by 7 points, and Florida by 9 points (one poll has him up by 11 in Florida). And one poll has McCain leading in New Jersey. 
Hillary on the other hand is actually leading McCain in Ohio and only trails him by 3 points in Florida.

The Democrats are once again about to nominate the most unelectable candidate. If the Dems nominate Obama....McCain wins in November.


You have it backwards. If Hillary is nominated, I, as well as many I have talked to, have already said we're supporting McCain.

If, however, Obama gets the nod, McCain and his 100 years in iraq comment does't have a chance.



Well....for what it is worth....the polls say different. They dont agree with you.

I remember in 2004, people said, "I dont know anyone who is voting for Bush!" What happened?

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RE: Is it time for Sen.Clinton to concede - 3/22/2008 4:33:06 PM   
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I remember in 2004, people said, "I dont know anyone who is voting for Bush!" What happened?



Okay, Bush voters... game over. We know you're out there  .

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RE: Is it time for Sen.Clinton to concede - 3/22/2008 4:42:42 PM   
slvemike4u


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Status: offline 		No cyberdude i can't .I've voted for a moron ,stupid acts check .Been made fun of because i voted for the stupid moron.YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE I WAS PART OF THE PROCCESS can you say the same

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RE: Is it time for Sen.Clinton to concede - 3/22/2008 5:03:27 PM   
slvemike4u


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