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RE: Is it time for Sen.Clinton to concede - 3/23/2008 3:36:57 PM

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Skillful means. When your anger subsides you may understand.

Yeah, I'll just file this under "Things I learned from a marine"

Oh wait....that file doesn't exist.

It does now.

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RE: Is it time for Sen.Clinton to concede - 3/23/2008 3:38:50 PM

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Skillful means. When your anger subsides you may understand.

Yeah, I'll just file this under "Things I learned from a marine"

Oh wait....that file doesn't exist.

It does now.

Only in the sense of what a marine has taught me through example by being stupid enough to learn first-hand himself.

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RE: Is it time for Sen.Clinton to concede - 3/23/2008 3:44:59 PM

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ThH

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And you know this how exactly? It would certainly seem to me that I do. I've been watching his campaign with great interest and I have already stated my position on voting for him repeatedly. How *exactly* do you get that I don't support him?

Your habit of not voting says it all. You don't support the process, therefore you don't support any candidate in the process.

You don't support Obama. You don't support McCain. You don't support Clinton. You don't support any candidate currently running for President. I can say this because your own words demonstrate you do not support the electoral process. That, my dear sir, is the beginning, middle, and end of the discussion.

Here endeth the lesson.

Celtic sweetie.. did you not see the "Do Not Feed the Trolls" sign out front when you entered?

while amusing in passing... it is best for your blood pressure to know on any given topic he is the "Bouncing Betty" thrown in with the bunch just to queer up your day.

Smile and pat him on the head as you pass by.. it will make all of your lives much easier going.

This has been a public service annoucement.

Gwyn

Hey Gwyn that occured to me last night ,made it easier to understand and to walk out on .Sort of like talking to a very young child who is determined that no amount of logic nor reason shall move his position.

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RE: Is it time for Sen.Clinton to concede - 3/23/2008 3:46:52 PM

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Hey Gwyn that occured to me last night ,made it easier to understand and to walk out on .Sort of like talking to a very young child who is determined that no amount of logic nor reason shall move his position.

Funny, I had the same thought about you and celticlord.

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RE: Is it time for Sen.Clinton to concede - 3/23/2008 3:50:19 PM

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Insanity performing the same action over and over again and expecting different results....so when you weren't voting over and over again you knew you were getting the same results

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RE: Is it time for Sen.Clinton to concede - 3/23/2008 4:02:58 PM

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Insanity performing the same action over and over again and expecting different results....so when you weren't voting over and over again you knew you were getting the same results

Cute attempt at logic. You're wrong. But keep trying. You'll get it eventually.
I didn't perform an action by not voting. I simply chose not to waste my time. I've been legal voting age for exactly 3 elections.

In the first, Clinton vs. Dole. I was just barely within the cutoff, but I was also in basic training at the time. Kinda hard to get out and vote, especially when I was more concerned with training than I was with learning about candidate's politcal positions. Personal political research is not one of the training regiments in the US military.

In the second election, Bush vs. Gore. I couldn't really stand either of them. Gore was a whiny bitch and Bush just had the constant "Huh?" expression on his face.

And in the third election, Bush (again) vs. Kerry. Well, Bush still had the same old "Huh?" expression...along with 4 years of examples of "Huh?" actions and then you had Kerry. A guy who paraded his military "experience" and totally forgot speaking out against his own people when he got home. Yeah...wonderful choices there. I didn't think any of them deserved the office. I wasn't going to vote Bush just to keep Gore or Kerry out and I certainly wasn't going to put a whiny bitch or a military crybaby in office just to keep Bush out.

Ergo, I didn't vote. I excercised my voting rights by NOT allowing myself to be forced to choose between two people I thought were undeserving of the job.

This election, the 4th since I've been eligible, I suddenly see a candidate that I can and do support. There is but one thing on which I do not agree with him. But in reality, that one thing is so minor in the broad scope of national affairs, that I don't let it deter my support of him.

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RE: Is it time for Sen.Clinton to concede - 3/23/2008 4:07:15 PM

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Hey Gwyn that occured to me last night ,made it easier to understand and to walk out on .Sort of like talking to a very young child who is determined that no amount of logic nor reason shall move his position.

Funny, I had the same thought about you and celticlord.

Ok folks, that's enough. Please lose the childish personal attacks once and for all.

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RE: Is it time for Sen.Clinton to concede - 3/23/2008 4:08:10 PM

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Hey Gwyn that occured to me last night ,made it easier to understand and to walk out on .Sort of like talking to a very young child who is determined that no amount of logic nor reason shall move his position.

Funny, I had the same thought about you and celticlord.

See though the thread is right there you can scroll back and see who has a defendable position and who's claiming a positive or preferred result from NOT taking advantage of his right to vote ...you have done nothing and your congratulating yourself crowing about your lack of responsibility for whatever mess we might be in ...hooray for you you have done nothing and made no error with your vote clap yourself on the back

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RE: Is it time for Sen.Clinton to concede - 3/23/2008 4:30:12 PM

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See though the thread is right there you can scroll back and see who has a defendable position and who's claiming a positive or preferred result from NOT taking advantage of his right to vote ...you have done nothing and your congratulating yourself crowing about your lack of responsibility for whatever mess we might be in ...hooray for you you have done nothing and made no error with your vote clap yourself on the back

Once again, I will point out that I have made NO such claim of a preferred result. I HAVE, however, pointed out that I will not choose between two people who are unfit for the job.

Honestly, level with me. What is so hard to understand about that? I'm not here preaching that my way is best. I'm not telling others not to vote. I'm simply saying that until this year's race, I had yet to see a candidate I could support. With no candidate worthy of support, I will NOT....I WILL NOT support one who I feel should not have the job just to make people like you happy. I didn't want ANY of the previous candidates in office. So what's my option? Vote for someone else who I felt did NOT deserve to be in office? Hardly. I chose not to play the game.

Simple. Or at least it's simple for me. I can simplify it further if you prefer.....or rather I can try too. Honestly though, you're testing my limits of simplification if you still don't understand.

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RE: Is it time for Sen.Clinton to concede - 3/23/2008 4:35:58 PM

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Once again, I will point out that I have made NO such claim of a preferred result. I HAVE, however, pointed out that I will not choose between two people who are unfit for the job.

You do. You merely choose not to admit it.

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Honestly, level with me. What is so hard to understand about that? I'm not here preaching that my way is best. I'm not telling others not to vote. I'm simply saying that until this year's race, I had yet to see a candidate I could support. With no candidate worth of support, I will NOT....I WILL NOT support one who I feel should not have the job just to make people like you happy. I didn't want ANY of the previous candidates in office. So what's my option? Vote for someone else who I felt did NOT deserve to be in office? Hardly. I chose not to play the game.

Edmund Burke sends his regards.

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Simple. Or at least it's simple for me. I can simplify it further if you prefer.....or rather I can try too. Honestly though, you're testing my limits of simplification if you still don't understand.

We understand your lack of understanding. Patience, grasshopper, understanding will come in time.

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RE: Is it time for Sen.Clinton to concede - 3/23/2008 4:48:51 PM

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We understand your lack of understanding. Patience, grasshopper, understanding will come in time.

Your resorting to comments of others' understanding do nothing to illustrate your own. Rather, they illustrate your inherent lack of same and your unwillingness to see it.

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