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RE: Financial Domination - 3/22/2008 8:20:09 PM   
MzMia


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ORIGINAL: Leatherist

These women just cater to do me bottoms who want to be topped. Which is what the vast majority of "male subs" happen to be.



Nice to hear this from a male!
Evidently, someone must be interested in this or there would not be so many around.

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RE: Financial Domination - 3/22/2008 8:21:12 PM   
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It is demeaning to the notion of humans in general that someone can be sold so easily.  But, still, it's realistic.  The problem is that you're disillusioned if you have these domme's up on a pillar.  Call 'em "Goddess" or whatever you will, but they're still women, and many still can be bought pretty easily.

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RE: Financial Domination - 3/22/2008 8:24:03 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MzMia

quote:

ORIGINAL: Leatherist

These women just cater to do me bottoms who want to be topped. Which is what the vast majority of "male subs" happen to be.



Nice to hear this from a male!
Evidently, someone must be interested in this or there would not be so many around.


I've had the fucktards hit on ME with thier inane fantasies.

Then I just talk about my fantasies.

I take you far out in to a remote forest, beat you down to the ground, and tear your pants off. Then I nail your dick to a BIG stump, douse the stump with gasoline, and toss a match on it. But I have mercy in the end, and a stick a dull knife in the tree where you can reach it.

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RE: Financial Domination - 3/22/2008 8:26:46 PM   
MzMia


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Leatherist

quote:

ORIGINAL: MzMia

quote:

ORIGINAL: Leatherist

These women just cater to do me bottoms who want to be topped. Which is what the vast majority of "male subs" happen to be.



Nice to hear this from a male!
Evidently, someone must be interested in this or there would not be so many around.


I've had the fucktards hit on ME with thier inane fantasies.

Then I just talk about my fantasies.

I take you far out in to a remote forest, beat you down to the ground, and tear your pants off. Then I nail your dick to a BIG stump, douse the stump with gasoline, and toss a match on it. But I have mercy in the end, and a stick a dull knife in the tree where you can reach it.


lol, many around here bring the definition of "desperate" to a new level.
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Thanks for making my night.


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RE: Financial Domination - 3/22/2008 8:29:02 PM   
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YW.....

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RE: Financial Domination - 3/23/2008 12:38:38 AM   
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>Akasha: Intead of trying to get dommes who seek "moneyslaves"
>to react, why not instead work to get the subs who support them
>to stop doing it? 

I agree. And that is why I did used the form "sell and/or buy" when characterising it.

>MasterFireMaam: Don't look a Pros as selling human interaction, look
>at them as selling fantasy fulfillment.

This is nothing but an euphemism and does not change anything.

>sunshinemiss: Yep, I always thought my therapist was my whore. 
"yep yep yep..

You are making a good point in a funny way. I don't agree with your conclusion, but nevertheless the argument is good.


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RE: Financial Domination - 3/23/2008 1:11:59 PM   
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Is it really Financial Domination or simply Financial Freedom?!  The payment of services indicates a lack of emotional attachment.  Perhaps that is what individuals whom pay for services desire?  Also, payment of services allows for total selfish interest(s).  There is no need to worry of the other's feelings or desires as this is a fee for service. 

Remember that their are two parties to a financial transaction: the payor and the payee.  It takes two!  I am not certain how someone is "swindled" when there are discussions upfront. 

What two consenting adults do behind closed doors is their business.  The last time I checked though, sex for a fee was illegal in all states barring Nevada counties having less than 500,000 in population.

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RE: Financial Domination - 3/23/2008 9:04:33 PM   
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>MasterFireMaam: Don't look a Pros as selling human interaction, look
>at them as selling fantasy fulfillment.

This is nothing but an euphemism and does not change anything.


No, it doesn't, apparently.

You are not the BDSM police and neither is anyone else. What is moral, right and proper to you is not to others. As long as they are not infringing on anyone's rights, just let it be. If it's not your kink, move on. It's a simple as that.

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RE: Financial Domination - 3/23/2008 10:12:54 PM   
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Do you tip every single waitress the same???  as in the one that does not smile, and brusquely  takes the order and set down it front of you the same and the one that makes friendly conversation , smiles at you,  etc 

If you are like most people you will tip more for that human interaction and have someone pander over you a bit  over the efficiency of just taking your order and placing the meal infront of you,  it is not really a lot different than paying for the attentions of a domme


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RE: Financial Domination - 3/24/2008 3:22:24 AM   
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I swear I can't get over all these subs making such a big deal over financial domination...move on if it's not for you! I'm not into toilet slaves but I'm not starting threads on why people choose to eat shit. To each Her/his own.

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/6/2008 6:50:55 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MD1Master

The last time I checked though, sex for a fee was illegal in all states barring Nevada counties having less than 500,000 in population.


Who's paying for sex here?  The payor?  Would that be the male in most cases? 

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/6/2008 7:20:38 PM   
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Every human needs human interaction. Many males are also unattractive, boorish, inane and have BO. There are very very few women who would take such men on for money. Those who would sell human interaction far outnumber the ones who would accept such scum for "love". There is a reason prostitution is the worlds oldest profession. 

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/8/2008 4:16:39 PM   
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I too am tired of this. I have spent so much time seaking out and trying to find Dom F, and they end up wanting to be paid for thier services. Well that is fine, if that is what your looking for. I am looking for someone who I can have an ongoing relationship with. It may be just BDSM or it may be a full pledge relationship. Either works for me, but to me, if I am paying you to dominate me, it's not a relationsihp it's just a business transaction. While that is ok, its not what I am looking for here. There lots of ads for paying mistresses services. I do not need to look on dating web sites for it.

My other pet pieve is how there so many people who are not from the area they post. I have responded to lots of F, who say they are in MN. Well after a couple days talking, they let me know they just moved back to South Africa and are looking for someone to send them money, so they can pay for their mom's hospital bills.  ONce  again this is not what I am looking for on a dating web site. If I wanted to pay medical bills for people, I would write a check and donate it to a charity of my choice.

Scott

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/8/2008 4:22:35 PM   
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Ugh. Cry more.

The whiney little tantrums of sub guys who can't find someone to do them in the ass with a strap on are EXACTLY the reason Pro Dommes do so well. No one is going to put up with that for free. Do you have any idea how much of a turn-off pouting is?

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/8/2008 4:35:49 PM   
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Lynn, I usually agree with you, but you are wrong here.  Scott's talking about a very real thing, that pingponged me around for over a month when I first joined CM.  It's got nothing to do with prodommes, prosubs, or anything else legit.

Scott, if you've been here since 2005 and you still can't recognize con-artist profiles, you really need to adjust your brain-filter.    Some hints:

1) low-res bikini photo as main profile pic
2) height/weight totally disproportionate (5'7" and 90 lbs)
3) race is "Native American" and the person doesn't look Cherokee, Sioux, etc.
4) use of the phrase "God-fearing" anywhere in the profile

You can also take a key phrase out of the profile, google it, and see if it shows up anywhere else.  A lot of scammers copy text out of Match.com and put it here.


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RE: Financial Domination - 5/8/2008 7:21:20 PM   
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I hate whores...and yeah, that's about it. I've already ranted about this in other threads and in my journal so I don't feel like doing it again here.

Pro Dommes = Whores
Tributes = Whores/Gold diggers

But for all the greedy hoe dommes there are ones that are real so the people looking for legit women shouldn't give up hope!

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/9/2008 3:32:27 AM   
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Tell you what... for the low low fee of twice what those dommes would cost you, I'll find a domme that won't charge you a red cent.

Guaranteed.  Or your money back.

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/9/2008 8:44:44 AM   
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Aren't all relationships based upon transactions...financial, emotional, physical?  Do you take a woman you are interested in out to dinner?  Buy her flowers?  Give her compliments?  Do you wear clothes that make you look your best?  Wear an aftershave that you know she likes?  Straighten your shoulders a bit more when she is around?  Do you smile and laugh more when around someone you find attrractive?  These are ways of buying and selling ourselves...at least to me they are.  Money is only one currency used in relationships. 

Rather than putting people off-side, wouldn't it be more helpful for you to focus on the people you want to attract?  Get involved with discussions on the noticeboards here in a positive way and you will see that there are a lot of Dommes that do not ask for tributes. 

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/13/2008 12:46:22 AM   
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I don't have a problem at all with professional Dommes.  I think there is definitely a section of the population that should see Prodommes as they are seeking an exact interaction done pretty much their way to their liking.   Many are unwilling or unable to commit to a Domme/sub relationship and just want sessions and many are unwilling and unable to be submissive or act submissive once their session is finished to the minute. I have met and known plenty of 'sub' males who claim they want to serve; when a Domme wants or asks ANYTHING of them in the way of service, that sub expects something exactly equal in their minds(not even what would be realistically equal, what they feel is equal which usually is not) in return and pretty much then and there.  The thought of doing anything even nice for the Domme without expecting something directly in return is far beyond their imaginations.  If they clean, they expect a certain amount of playtime their way in exchange and are pouty if they don't get it.  If they run an errand, they expect the Domme to fulfill a fetish in exchange.  If they spend any time with the Mistress, they expect her to discuss their fantasy and their fetish the whole time.   How is that submissive?  It's just wanting tit for tat.  Well, Prodomming is tit for tat... an exact specific amount of time and exact activities done in fantasy format by an attractive woman dressed to the nines in a fabulous dungeon atmosphere for an exact fee.  Tit for tat.  Exactly as so many of these so called male subs want.  There are many clients who are very happy with this hassle free arrangement; they can have an outlet for their fantasies with a woman of their dreams without any entanglements or complications and the woman expects nothing but an exact prearranged fee.  So many of those guys would never, ever have a chance to have their D/s outlet otherwise.  If there wern't Prodommes, it's not like there'd be thousands of women sitting around entertaining such men's fantasies.
I've met plenty of male subs who claim they want a relationship with a Domme.. what that means to them is the Domme will be their girlfriend and will do kinky things to them that they like dressed sexy.  I know one male who claims he is a SLAVE (he refuses to even use himself and 'sub' in the same sentence) and throws down everyone's throats how much of a slave he is and how he wants to devote himself to the Mistress of his dreams for life and how much better he is than every other male sub ... but he has said that he will not serve a Domme unless she agrees to satisfy exact  particular fetishes of his on a regular basis or he can't be happy.  It doesn't matter if she likes them.. wait she is supposed to like them because she is a Mistress.  She must make his fetishes hers and like it! 

Yes, there are legitimately submissive males who want legitimate D/s relationships in the realistic manner that they exist and it is a challenge for them to find their Mistress and I feel sorry for them because I know it is SOOO difficult (it ain't so easy for a female either).. but they are in the minority.

As to the strictly financial Domination............ some men actually really really get off on being taken advantage of financially.  I've read about a few who literally get off on a woman using his credit cards and treating him with no regard.  So?  Everyone is an adult and making their own decisions.  I heard about a millionaire who is giving something like $6,000 a day to a few different Dommes that he has sought out for this arrangement.

The one problem I have are the ProDommes who on this site in their profile say they are not seeking any personal submissives/slaves/relationships and are only interested in professional sessions.  This is a personal lifestyle site.. Maxfisch is for professionals to advertise.. do it there.  They also say it like: how dare you even think about me wanting a personal submissive.  I am a Professional, know what that means!!!   That I find very irking.. if a Professional is seeking a personal relationship or friendship of any kind here, fine, more power to her.  But, to come on here and advertise your strictly professional services I find wrong.  There are sites just for that, use them.  But, that is my personal opinion and pet peeve, ymmv.

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/13/2008 3:06:41 AM   
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My other pet pieve is how there so many people who are not from the area they post. I have responded to lots of F, who say they are in MN. Well after a couple days talking, they let me know they just moved back to South Africa and are looking for someone to send them money, so they can pay for their mom's hospital bills.  ONce  again this is not what I am looking for on a dating web site. If I wanted to pay medical bills for people, I would write a check and donate it to a charity of my choice.

Scott



You obviously seem to attact scammers, go old four one niners strike again! The F is probably some big haiery Nigerian called Joseph lol

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