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RE: Financial Domination - 5/15/2008 5:13:59 AM

orfunboi

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ORIGINAL: Usako

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Ya know usako, you love ass play. I think it's sick and repulsive. I think you're abnormal and disgusting. I think you're a whore.

See the above example? Everyone has their views on things. If you don't like someone elses thing, great. Shut up and move right along.

And? What's you're point?

The thread is about pro dommes, I think they're whores. So I stated my opinion, it's not my fault all the lil net people want to whine about my opinion since it's not going to change it.

This is the internet, not everyone's opinion is going to match yours. If you don't like it, get over it and move on.

Yes we all know you think pros are whores. Of course you already admitted you don't really know any pros. But that doesn't stop you from showing your ignorance to the boards. Maybe you should trot down to the bar. You might get lucky and some poor slob might buy you a drink. Just be careful, If someone sees you letting some guy buy you a drink, they just might think your a whore.

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/15/2008 5:19:17 AM

Usako

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ORIGINAL: orfunboi

Insert frills here.

Once again, what's your point? If you really have nothing better to do then throw text insults at people on line then that's kind of sad. But then again, I'm the young one here while all the adults are acting like children over my opinion? Highly amusing, I do enjoy a good chuckle in the morning.

Perhaps people should stay on topic, like mature adults, rather then waste time over lil ole me.

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/15/2008 5:28:01 AM

orfunboi

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ORIGINAL: Usako

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ORIGINAL: orfunboi

Insert frills here.

Once again, what's your point? If you really have nothing better to do then throw text insults at people on line then that's kind of sad. But then again, I'm the young one here while all the adults are acting like children over my opinion? Highly amusing, I do enjoy a good chuckle in the morning.

Perhaps people should stay on topic, like mature adults, rather then waste time over lil ole me.

This coming from the child who just said all pros are whores. Yea right.

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/15/2008 5:43:03 AM

Usako

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ORIGINAL: orfunboi
Saving space.

For calling someone else a child you sure do whine a lot. Nothing you say phases me yet you keep trying.

Plus, you obviously can't even comprehend a simple statement made by a "child" and assume the term "whore" is used purely to insult.

Whore = Gives men sexual gratification for money.
Pro Domme = Gives men SEXUAL gratification for money. With or without the actual SEX, the men are going to the domme to stimulate their mind SEXUALLY. It's about the same as a man calling a phone sex hot line, he never has sex with said woman but she is giving him the sexual stimulation and gratification in exchange for money.

Seriously, get off the using "age" as an excuse to try and win your net battles. Grow up yourself and stop trying to pick internet fights and totally steering a topic off topic and hijacking said thread. If you don't like what someone says or their opinion, get over it, ignore it and move on.

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/15/2008 6:03:35 AM

orfunboi

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ORIGINAL: Usako

I hate whores...and yeah, that's about it. I've already ranted about this in other threads and in my journal so I don't feel like doing it again here.

Pro Dommes = Whores
Tributes = Whores/Gold diggers

But for all the greedy hoe dommes there are ones that are real so the people looking for legit women shouldn't give up hope!

You said it very clearly right here. Trying to backpedal and change what you meant won't fly well with those who can go back and read your original post.

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/15/2008 6:24:06 AM

Usako

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ORIGINAL: orfunboi
Text here

What exactly did I say? I actually didn't say much, but, I'll explain since the comprehending factor isn't working.

First part: My opinion and that I didn't feel like going into great detail about it in yet another thread.
Second part: An insanely simpilified break down of said opinion.
Third part: Mainly in response to the subs in said thread who were called "whiners" for not wanting to deal with pro dommes while looking for real relationships.

I actually didn't say anything clearly since I didn't feel like it. But you choose to read too much into it and began to complain insteading of doing what I would assume a rational, mature adult would do and blow it off if they didn't like it. And then proceed to hijhack a thread to continue complaining and whining and try to win some imaginary battle while using meaningless text insults and the cliché sword and shield that anyone young can't possibly know what they're talking about. And yet, have yet to say anything to validate why what you think is better and is worthy of me actually thinking it over.

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/15/2008 8:37:42 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Usako
Plus, you obviously can't even comprehend a simple statement made by a "child" and assume the term "whore" is used purely to insult. Looking back at your posts, it seems pretty clear to me that you are being insulting.

Whore = Gives men sexual gratification for money.
No, wrong:
whored, whor·ing. –noun 1.a woman who engages in promiscuous sexual intercourse, usually for money; prostitute; harlot; strumpet.
Pro Domme = Gives men SEXUAL gratification for money. With or without the actual SEX, the men are going to the domme to stimulate their mind SEXUALLY. It's about the same as a man calling a phone sex hot line, he never has sex with said woman but she is giving him the sexual stimulation and gratification in exchange for money.

Fail again. I do not screw anyone. The domme's I work with occassionally do not screw anyone. Is it adult entertainment? Yes. Is it prostitution? No. Don't make yourself look foolish shooting your mouth off about things you don't understand.

No one is "Reading too far into" your posts. You're just typing without thinking. Backpedaling later on is not going to help you out.

Seriously, get off the using "age" as an excuse to try and win your net battles. Grow up yourself and stop trying to pick internet fights and totally steering a topic off topic and hijacking said thread. If you don't like what someone says or their opinion, get over it, ignore it and move on.

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/15/2008 9:40:00 AM

Usako

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Hm? No, I never type without thinking. Since I am the author of my own posts I'm pretty sure when someone reads too far into one or even more so, takes it far out of context.

I also know that there are many definitions for whore and prostitute, etc, etc. Of course the main one points out the intercourse, but as is so easy to see, the sexual stimulation is mental as well. And of course if one looks into more detail and not just picks the first thing off the first google site, they'd seem more definitions describe the whore/prostitute exchanging sexual acts or using their bodies to make money.

The men go to the pro dommes...for sexual activity. For the quick fix wife can't do or they don't want a full relationship. The rush, the tingle, etc etc. Whether or not SEX happens, the activity is of a sexual nature and stimulates parts of their brain sexual. Much to the kin of phone sex or going to a strip bar, neither of these things have sexual intercourse but men obviously like them because they're sexual and the women know this and know why men like it and get paid to do it.

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/15/2008 9:52:58 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Usako

Hm? No, I never type without thinking. Since I am the author of my own posts I'm pretty sure when someone reads too far into one or even more so, takes it far out of context.

I also know that there are many definitions for whore and prostitute, etc, etc. Of course the main one points out the intercourse, but as is so easy to see, the sexual stimulation is mental as well. And of course if one looks into more detail and not just picks the first thing off the first google site, they'd seem more definitions describe the whore/prostitute exchanging sexual acts or using their bodies to make money.

The men go to the pro dommes...for sexual activity. For the quick fix wife can't do or they don't want a full relationship. The rush, the tingle, etc etc. Whether or not SEX happens, the activity is of a sexual nature and stimulates parts of their brain sexual. Much to the kin of phone sex or going to a strip bar, neither of these things have sexual intercourse but men obviously like them because they're sexual and the women know this and know why men like it and get paid to do it.

No one is saying that it's not sexual. However, calling Dommes, dancers and everyone else whores, is ridiculous. What about pin-up models? Fashion models? Dancers?
Besides, looking at your posting history, it doesn't seem like we are taking anything out of context.

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Tributes = Gold diggers and/or prostitutes, simple as that.

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Exchanging money, gifts or services JUST to meet you? I love how fancy words like "tribute" are used when in any real world situation people would just used the word "prostitution."

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Tribute/Fee it all boils down to the same thing in my eyes. I don't agree with either, no different than a hooker or even a gold digger in my eyes.

If you want to look at it from the point of view that you seem to have backed into, everyone uses their body for money. When I was a waitress, I had to carry food around and take orders... O snap that's using my body... When I get my nursing degree, I'll use my body to take care of burn patients. Damnit, I'm destined to be a whore for life apparently.

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/15/2008 11:19:30 AM

Usako

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Honestly, I think we are all whores, in a sense. Exchange ourselves for whatever job, etc, etc. But that's just getting technically and going far off the course of what the original OP intended.

In this case, the term whore is being used as exchanging a clearly sexual activity for money. Now if people want to get their panties in a bunch over it, can't really be help. It's the term I choose to use because it fits the definition I'm referring to; these things tend to happen when talking to other people.

Now models and all those other mentioned things go into a cloudy airy. I mean, a phone sex worker knows what the intention of her job is. But, a model in a magazine is first a model...she can't really help it if a guy chooses to wank off to her pic. For all the things I use the word whore for (since, it's meaning can be stretched, applied to other things) I'm not quite sure I'd put that under it. Unless using the logic "we're all whores to society."

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/15/2008 12:06:11 PM

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If you really want to split hairs... then they should really be called pro-subs. As they pretty much do what the male pays them to do.

Anyway, bickering and squabbling will get you nowhere. Moving right along..

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/15/2008 1:06:58 PM

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ORIGINAL: CruelDesires

If you really want to split hairs... then they should really be called pro-subs. As they pretty much do what the male pays them to do.

Anyway, bickering and squabbling will get you nowhere. Moving right along..

CD

OMG that's brillant.

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RE: Financial Domination - 7/13/2008 12:35:40 PM

sinseresubm

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>Put it this way buddy.. The world revolves around currencies and
>everyone has a prize at the end of the day no matter which side of
>the wood they belong.

Well, that is were I chose to maintain a different view. I refuse to accept that everything, and specially inter-human relationships "revolves around currencies". I know that the women being here for the purpose of ecconomic reasons wants you to believe that, as it gives them the necessary aliby. But I disagree. And I offer an alternativ: Inter-human relationships are sacred, they cannot be bought and sold in any real way.

Again (since the "pros" will want to say that I am just moralizing): I do NOT heap on those who feel differently. This is to me not a question of moral or ethics. It is a question of function. I want to voice the opinion that maybe in the long run it might function better to treat inter-human relationships as something that cannot be bought and sold. "Keeping something pure, will keep it pure."

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RE: Financial Domination - 7/14/2008 7:33:21 AM

TheOnlyBitch

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thought i would throw a few things in here, i am only 25 young to some, and yes i agree i have a lot and i mean a lot to learn about this life
I would consider myself a Pro Domme as i do get paid for sessions, whether it be real time or online, and i have had men throw money at me before, to me its not the amount of money but the fact a slave or sub wants to make me feel good
We are not whores, we arent selling our selves for sex!!
If financial domination isnt for you, then fair enough, but everyone has there likes and dislikes, otherwise i think the world would be pretty boring
Love to everyone xxxx

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RE: Financial Domination - 7/14/2008 11:29:32 AM

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~Fast Reply~

Block the profile so that it doesn't offend you again, move on and treat it as any other kink that doesn't appeal to you. Basically, behave like an adult.

Pro dommes fill a real need. There are plenty of married men who, after being honest with their spouses, see a pro domme to get their needs filled. There are plenty of people who see pros, both male and female, to figure out their limits in a situation where they feel safe. Some people, both in BDSM and in vanilla-land, just don't ever want to be bothered with a relationship. The eternal bachelor so to speak.

If someone choses to mislabel pros as whores, that is their problem. Last I checked, being a whore was selling intercourse or blowjobs. If you want to call being a whore just selling the idea of sex, well then I guess I'm a whore because I posed, completely clothed, for a calender to raise money for a club near and dear to my heart. Which seems very strange because I didn't get paid and didn't get a free copy of the calender either.

And there are men who genuinely get off on having their partner control their money. I happen to know one and, provided they chose their partner carefully and the partner is responsible, everyone is happy. For crying out loud, how many people think all dominants/masters/mistresses/etc are going to hell because they dare to "defile" the temple that is the human body? These clear lines in the sand are only clear depending on where you stand at the moment.

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RE: Financial Domination - 7/14/2008 3:49:36 PM

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IMHO I see it like this...I have done escorting, and pro sessioning. We fill a need for our clients that see it more acceptable to seek out a no strings, biz based agreement that protects them from the known problems that getting those same needs met by aproaching someone on a personal level can and do end up in. (bunny soup anyone?

)

So if ya wanna hate...i mean if ya really gotta hate someone for doing a job that is FKD up....hate the oil workers. THEY are whores.

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RE: Financial Domination - 7/14/2008 5:30:00 PM

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I spoke to a guy who actually could not stop giving money to random mistresses. Its a choice to do so or not to do so. If you dont want to give them chicks money then dont give it to them. If you enjoy it, well then do it lol. I think guys who try to force their subs to wear diapers are gross, so I skip over those profiles... I would suggest you just do the same.

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RE: Financial Domination - 7/14/2008 7:14:33 PM

slavekal

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Princess Sierra is probably the inventor of this, at least on the internet. In real life, I don't think I would be able to resist her. But over the internet, I am not sending a penny to total strangers. Especially these Jilly-Come-Lately girls.

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RE: Financial Domination - 7/14/2008 9:05:51 PM

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usako;The thread is about pro dommes, I think they're whores. So I stated my opinion, it's not my fault all the lil net people want to whine about my opinion since it's not going to change it.

Let Me see if I understand this...its not your fault the "lil",its spelled LITTLE,but
I digress,people are whining about your opinion,how is NOT your fault when your
the one who says not once or twice but several times a very insulting comment
about People you dont even know.you want E/everyone else to accept you think that
Pro Dominas are whores,because thats your opinion.But you are completely unwilling
to accept that other P/peoples opinions of Pros are different than yours.IMO
thats being childish,which is why the age card is getting played,your acting like a
child your getting treated that way.

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usako Once again, what's your point? If you really have nothing better to do then throw text insults at people on line then that's kind of sad.

So you calling Pro's whores isnt throwing insults online? Looks insulting to
Me but maybe thats because I am a Pro who does not allow any sex in My dungeon.
Believe it or not...I have more than one submissive who is into ball crushing and thats
it one hour of crushing,trampling whipping or tieing up the whole package until its turning purple,I have yet to see them get sexually excited.Its not called Cock and Ball Torture for nothing.
Then there are the ones into pain,again not a sexual activity.

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usako The men go to the pro dommes...for sexual activity. For the quick fix wife can't do or they don't want a full relationship. The rush, the tingle, etc etc. Whether or not SEX happens, the activity is of a sexual nature and stimulates parts of their brain sexual. Much to the kin of phone sex or going to a strip bar, neither of these things have sexual intercourse but men obviously like them because they're sexual and the women know this and know why men like it and get paid to do it

.

Do you know any of these "men" personally.How do you know what they are
thinking?Do you have ESP? The "quick fix" you have no clue about as to why
men go to a Pro.Its not for a quick fix its a place to go to be yourself,whether its being
feminized or trained in pet play,neither of those are sexually motivated kink.The reason
they pay is because they appreciate the fact they can be anything they want in the dungeon.
you can try to say being femmed is about sex, but its really that they want to feel more like a woman,to get in touch with "themselves" mentally and embrace their feminine side.
See thing is I do know some men and I do know what they want and it aint sex.
I realize I'm just wasting space here,I know you'll never get it.

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usako In this case, the term whore is being used as exchanging a clearly sexual activity for money. Now if people want to get their panties in a bunch over it, can't really be help. It's the term I choose to use because it fits the definition I'm referring to; these things tend to happen when talking to other people.

Okay so you wont get your panties all in a bunch if I call your closed minded attitude
ignorant.And add that IMO:
Its people like you that give BDSM the 'perverted sexual deviant' stigma
that SO many P/people have tried to dispel in Society, thanks for the help in
making BDSM more acceptable.

When did the BDSM definition change the "S" to mean Sex?
I thought it meant submission,submissive and/or sadist.

Thank goodness there are P/people out there who accept those with different kinks
and fetishes for who they are and not what they are.Like with you for instance
I'm going to accept you as being an extremely hateful person with no room
for tolerence of what other P/people do in their own lives.
Which by the way... has nothing to do with you.

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RE: Financial Domination - 7/14/2008 9:24:53 PM

Racquelle

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quote:

only proves to me that you don't know any pro dommes in real life.

And probably no actual whores.

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