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RE: Financial Domination - 5/13/2008 3:19:34 AM   
HalloweenWhite


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Status: offline 		The bottom line is, if there are people around willing to give people money for not very much, then there are probably people around just as willing to take it off them if it's offered. In addition, there are a lot of lifestylers who see this kind of thing as a perfectly legitimate way to express their Dominance over, or submission to, O/others.

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/13/2008 4:00:38 AM   
Domin8tingUrDrmz


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Status: offline 		I view Financial Domination and ProDomme services completely differently. 

ProDomme services are a blessing to those who, as others have stated, are unable to actually submit.  The pro's offer a service for a fee - everyone is happy.

Financial Domination I see as a person taking control of another person's finances.  Giving a set allowance, if any at all.  This arrangement is considerably different.  It generally means, in my opinion, that the person who is Dominating the Finances also sees to it that the person who gave up control of the money has the essentials to live.  If one is seeking Financial Domination, they are typically seeking a long term relationship.  Not a pro session.

Both situations have many people who enjoy them.  If you do not, move on.

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/13/2008 5:59:19 AM   
Second2U


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Status: offline 		If everything were black and white ........... how simple and boring life would be! Pure emotional exchanges come in all colours and impure ones? Well, how many shades of white are there to start with?

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/13/2008 6:07:38 AM   
orfunboi


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Status: offline 		You know what I get tired of? People comming on the forums and pissing and moaning about pro dommes. If you don't have a need for one, don't use one. There are a lot of people out there who, for many reasons, want to use a pro domme. That is their choice. If you don't then stay away from them. Be glad it's in their profile so you won't waste your time and move on.

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/13/2008 6:13:46 AM   
orfunboi


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quote:

ORIGINAL: kitttty

I would love to serve my Master through financial servitude but I have no money to give. Literally, I have no money after I pay my bills.


Well yea, you spent it all on law school.....

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/13/2008 6:18:34 AM   
orfunboi


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Ebonybbw

quote:

ORIGINAL: MD1Master

The last time I checked though, sex for a fee was illegal in all states barring Nevada counties having less than 500,000 in population.


Who's paying for sex here?  The payor?  Would that be the male in most cases? 


If your going by the pros I know personally in the real world? No one. They don't have sex with their clients.

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/13/2008 6:23:46 AM   
orfunboi


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Usako

I hate whores...and yeah, that's about it. I've already ranted about this in other threads and in my journal so I don't feel like doing it again here.

Pro Dommes = Whores
Tributes = Whores/Gold diggers

But for all the greedy hoe dommes there are ones that are real so the people looking for legit women shouldn't give up hope!



Wow only 23 years old and you already know everything there is to know about pro dommes. Sorry to burst your little bubble chickie, but your comment "Pro Dommes = Whores" only proves to me that you don't know any pro dommes in real life. It also shows me that your shallow, narrow minded and probibly not worth getting to know.

Have a great life....

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/13/2008 7:57:03 AM   
born4serving


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Status: offline 		I do not actually have a problem with financial Dommes, as I think a Mistress feels proud that their sub gives Her money or buys Her gifts - its a token of a subs love towards Her.

Also, speaking in from a subs point of view, I love being a financial Domme - the thought of giving a Mistress my hard earned cash is really a delight.  Knowing when I am at work on a really hot day, thinking that the days wage will be given to a Mistress, is really a nice way to work.

I remembered when I sent money through the post before; just listening to the ATM machine as it counted my cash, it bought my goose-bumps, as well as when I was writing a covering letter to support the cash; and not to forget the fact that I had ironed the notes to make sure there were no creases on them.


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RE: Financial Domination - 5/13/2008 8:13:03 AM   
MISTRESSKUMA


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Second2U

If everything were black and white ........... how simple and boring life would be! Pure emotional exchanges come in all colours and impure ones? Well, how many shades of white are there to start with?


This is very true.

I like the humiliation of having a sadist use my body for whatever abuse he can think of.

I also like the mental humiliation of having a woman use my money for whatever she wants.



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RE: Financial Domination - 5/13/2008 8:15:27 AM   
MISTRESSKUMA


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quote:

ORIGINAL: born4serving

I do not actually have a problem with financial Dommes, as I think a Mistress feels proud that their sub gives Her money or buys Her gifts - its a token of a subs love towards Her.

Also, speaking in from a subs point of view, I love being a financial Domme - the thought of giving a Mistress my hard earned cash is really a delight.  Knowing when I am at work on a really hot day, thinking that the days wage will be given to a Mistress, is really a nice way to work.

I remembered when I sent money through the post before; just listening to the ATM machine as it counted my cash, it bought my goose-bumps, as well as when I was writing a covering letter to support the cash; and not to forget the fact that I had ironed the notes to make sure there were no creases on them.




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RE: Financial Domination - 5/13/2008 8:17:48 AM   
MISTRESSKUMA


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quote:

ORIGINAL: orfunboi

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ebonybbw

quote:

ORIGINAL: MD1Master

The last time I checked though, sex for a fee was illegal in all states barring Nevada counties having less than 500,000 in population.


Who's paying for sex here?  The payor?  Would that be the male in most cases? 


If your going by the pros I know personally in the real world? No one. They don't have sex with their clients.


This is exactly true.

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/13/2008 8:20:35 AM   
MISTRESSKUMA


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quote:

ORIGINAL: orfunboi

quote:

ORIGINAL: Usako

I hate whores...and yeah, that's about it. I've already ranted about this in other threads and in my journal so I don't feel like doing it again here.

Pro Dommes = Whores
Tributes = Whores/Gold diggers

But for all the greedy hoe dommes there are ones that are real so the people looking for legit women shouldn't give up hope!



Wow only 23 years old and you already know everything there is to know about pro dommes. Sorry to burst your little bubble chickie, but your comment "Pro Dommes = Whores" only proves to me that you don't know any pro dommes in real life. It also shows me that your shallow, narrow minded and probibly not worth getting to know.

Have a great life....


It's a lazy way of refusing to accept other people may like things she doesn't.

Instead of having some self awareness and realisng that others may have different personal tastes, some people just take the piss and try to demean others tastes and personal preferences.

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/13/2008 8:48:06 AM   
Bella1965


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To the OP; let's set a definition. Prostitution is selling sex. Plain and simple. Financial dominants generally do not have intercourse of any type with their subjects. Same for pro-dominants. They provide a service. You think they should this for free? Pffft. Later on that noise. I'm glad they exist. So I can direct all the little wankers with their wangs in their hands to go kneel at their feet instead of pestering me. 

As for submission being "sacred"? Since when? It's give and take on the parts of both individuals. Either both get something out of it or it's a waste of time for all involved. Let me clue you in... submission is neither sacred, a gift or any other pretty label you wish to slap on it. It's simply is what it is. The surrender of your will to another. While a dominant may treasure it, it's nothing any more special than domination is.

My suggestion to you OP? Stop complaining. It just looks whiny. Bypass the profiles that don't offer what you seek. Stop focusing on what you deem to be negative and concentrate on the positive. Look at all the time you've wasted ranting here about it. *chuckling* Hint - you may also want to try the spell checker once in a while.

Several posters have already made valid points on this thread. I suggest your take their advice (hard won through many years of sifting through the do-me's) and get to stepping. Not the best foot you can put forward in this medium. If I sound brusque? I'm brutally honest and don't pull punches. *shrugs*


Stay safe, play nice, & share your toys w/ other...





Bella



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RE: Financial Domination - 5/14/2008 7:17:51 PM   
ATMboyinpa


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Status: offline 		It is amazing how intolerant people in the D/s community can be.  I find that very amusing.

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/14/2008 7:38:02 PM   
MistressDolly


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quote:

ORIGINAL: ATMboyinpa

It is amazing how intolerant people in the D/s community can be.  I find that very amusing.



Mmm hmm.

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/14/2008 8:29:39 PM   
CruelDesires


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Status: offline 		A "interesting" view on this subject from a female Dom that I know.

quote:


I would like to take time out to discuss the topic of tributes. It is apparent that submissives are reluctant to communicate with a Domme if She requests tributes as a component of service. I do not include the aspect of tributes in My profile for a reason; it is not the main focus of My search for the perfect submissive. However, it is a ritualized form of gratitude that is mandatory for servitude. I feel that a lot of subs are turned off by this request because they feel it is just a way to get money without a Domme having to reciprocate for the gift; much like having a sugar-daddy. It is sad that some selfish Dommes have tainted the spectrum by demanding gifts and money without giving anything in return. These little selfless subbies have needs, and that's why they come to You.

It is My philosophy to request tributes, not when I am getting to know a person, but when I feel there is potential for things to move to the next level of service. I have requirements for service and that is but one of them. I feel that as a submissive you should want to provide for your Domme, anything She desires. After all, She is most likely going to use Her gifts with you. In thanks for the anticipation of the pleasure She will provide, you should give a tribute gift to honor Her allowance of your service. What better way to show recognition of awareness that She doesn't have to allow you in Her presence for torture, play, or sensual mind-fuck? Male Doms request tributes as well, more often in the sexual realm. They may request a sub be a fuck-pig for a group, forced to swallow every last drop of cum from every dirty cock that was inside him/her, but that is the way a Male Dom views appreciation for allowing him/her to serve. Females do not work that way and are more motivated by material things as forms of gratitude. It is not money-grubbing; it is a genetic difference between the chemical makeup of men and women.

Finally, I wish to express that I am not advocating paying of tributes to every D who requests it. subs have rights too and are allowed to have a reciprocal relationship for the gift they have proudly presented and hope with deep desire that You love. The only situation in which this would be negated would be if the sub requests to have no attention paid to tributes. If that is the discussed dynamic, then everyone is happy and there is no reason to dispute.

I am open to discussing this further if anyone so chooses. Approach respectfully.

L



I don't necessarily agree with everything that she says, but it is interesting reading about other peoples point of view and learning how other minds think.:)

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/14/2008 10:43:52 PM   
Usako


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quote:

ORIGINAL: orfunboi

quote:

ORIGINAL: Usako

I hate whores...and yeah, that's about it. I've already ranted about this in other threads and in my journal so I don't feel like doing it again here.

Pro Dommes = Whores
Tributes = Whores/Gold diggers

But for all the greedy hoe dommes there are ones that are real so the people looking for legit women shouldn't give up hope!



Wow only 23 years old and you already know everything there is to know about pro dommes. Sorry to burst your little bubble chickie, but your comment "Pro Dommes = Whores" only proves to me that you don't know any pro dommes in real life. It also shows me that your shallow, narrow minded and probibly not worth getting to know.

Have a great life....


I'm quite happy not to know any pro dommes irl and even happier that you don't want to get to know me since...your opinion means nothing.

No matter what silly internet people complaining about; I will continue to think Pro Dommes are whores and have no problem whatsoever not dealing with them. :)

People can think/do whatever they want, and I'm free to think/do whatever I want. And I choose to equate Pro Dommes with whores...so yeah, move along and stop whining.


< Message edited by Usako -- 5/14/2008 10:48:24 PM >

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/15/2008 2:04:50 AM   
Bella1965


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*chuckles* The young think they know so much. Wait until this long ride on the short bus special grows up and realizes the facts of life. Boy, is she in for a rude awakening.

So, let me get this straight... Pro-dominants are whores because they ask for money for their time, effort, skills, equipment, company, wardrobe, etc. Yet this little upstart thinks that it's different than asking someone to pay to hang out with her in the Village?? (see her journal, dated 4/5/08) Brass balls chica, big ones. Quite the little hypocrite. What makes -your- company so much more worthwhile that someone should pick up the tab at a local bar for the dubious pleasure of your *cough* esteemed *cough* presence? Get over yourself.

I personally know quite a few pro-dominants, male and female alike. Not once have they had sexual relations of any sort with their clients. While I may not be keen on reducing the interaction of surrender and control to a financial transaction, it has it's place. Like so many other activities I find questionable in the alternative lifestyle. To each their own. But to lump sum an entire faction into a disreputable cubbyhole because you know nothing about it? Smacks of insecurity, bitterness, lack of vision, and an insular life. Wow.

One last thought...
quote:

ORIGINAL: Usako
No matter what silly internet people complaining about
Hmm, since you're using the same medium as everyone else here, what does this make you? I know, it's the hypocrisy at work again. My bad. I forgot you hold yourself above all others. Mein Gott.


Stay safe, play nice, & share your toys w/ others...





Bella

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/15/2008 2:34:07 AM   
MissMagnolia


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Status: offline 		Ya know usako, you love ass play. I think it's sick and repulsive. I think you're abnormal and disgusting. I think you're a whore.

See the above example? Everyone has their views on things. If you don't like someone elses thing, great. Shut up and move right along.

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RE: Financial Domination - 5/15/2008 4:57:10 AM   
Usako


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MissMagnolia

Ya know usako, you love ass play. I think it's sick and repulsive. I think you're abnormal and disgusting. I think you're a whore.

See the above example? Everyone has their views on things. If you don't like someone elses thing, great. Shut up and move right along.


And? What's you're point?

The thread is about pro dommes, I think they're whores. So I stated my opinion, it's not my fault all the lil net people want to whine about my opinion since it's not going to change it.

This is the internet, not everyone's opinion is going to match yours. If you don't like it, get over it and move on.


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