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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

I DETEST the use of the word alien in this context! I have friends that work for the INS and they also dislike it. They all have hats and t-shirts, that have little alien heads embroidered on them. It is a humorous way of dealing with their distaste.

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ORIGINAL: SeeksOnlyOne
caitlyn theres nothing special about this case, except i know the parties involved and chose to share it.....

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Caitlyn's suggestion is valid: why not legalise the status of all these paperless people and make them into fully fledged human beings?

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ORIGINAL: SeeksOnlyOne

thank gawd for herbal therapy on a saturday am....the windows are open and the birds are chirping and its gonna be a wonderful day in the neighborhood.

I hope you have a good one

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol
Caitlyn's suggestion is valid: why not legalise the status of all these paperless people and make them into fully fledged human beings?

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I just did my taxes.
Last years taxable income was $7000.00 plus change.
My out of pocket medical ALONE for last year was $16,000.00.
No longer can I pay my prop taxes. None of my meds are covered by those $4 prescriptions. I qualify for NO assistance even though my doctor has labeled me as fully disabled. I am now without heat. I have shut off notices for each utility I use. I'm scared as hell about my future, scared to the point where every single day I cry and worry myself sick. If I were the type to give up I would because I am just fucking exhausted.
Yes I am angry. Yes things are unfair for an awful lot of people everywhere.

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ORIGINAL: MissMorrigan

I honestly think the whole term 'illegal alien' should be recatergorised. I, personally, find it offensive and does a great injustice to many, such as the woman in the OP, who were brought to the US and other countries, as children.

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ORIGINAL: camille65
it is also the law. How can we pick and choose who we apply the law to?If we say 'Well, those with families should be able to stay' then do you not think that would encourage more illegal workers to have large families as insurance? Oh, and its freaking unfair that you can herbalize yourself with open windows while I have snow on the ground!  I edited this because my personal life isn't germaine to the discussion.

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ORIGINAL: SeeksOnlyOne

camille i see your point....to a point.

but do you really really, thinking with all you have, think that someone who was brought her at the age of 5, a child, thinks of living her life where she was raised as bucking the system? 

i think she, and many others like her, are just living their lives, in the place to them that is, in their heart if not in the laws, simply their home.

it just has me rethinking so many things that i considered absolutes in my beliefs before.  but in terms of her "crime", i think if the world was fair, at the least every illegal construction worker who who came here as an adult, knowing they were chancing it to cross that border, and the companies that hire them should be taken care of before we take care of this great national threat of a mom and her babies.

we pick and choose what we enforce, and that is part of what has my ass chapped about this entire thing right now.

thank gawd for herbal therapy on a saturday am....the windows are open and the birds are chirping and its gonna be a wonderful day in the neighborhood.

happy weekend all

edited to add i saw where you said not to this particular case, but still wanted to start the thinking on how we enforce laws.

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

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ORIGINAL: MissMorrigan
I honestly think the whole term 'illegal alien' should be recatergorised. I, personally, find it offensive and does a great injustice to many, such as the woman in the OP, who were brought to the US and other countries, as children.

Yeah Criminal Immigrant would work better, as they are in violation of the law. Hurting peoples delicate feelings should not be a factor in addressing the issue.

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ORIGINAL: MissMorrigan

That's right, criminalise children for the acts their parents committed. How logical! At what age in the US can a child be tried as an adult? My comment is asinine, but then in keeping with the suggestion they are criminals. Once these 'criminals' have been located, do you recommend branding (think the heated metal option would be beneficial here?) them with their new-found status

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

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ORIGINAL: MissMorrigan
I honestly think the whole term 'illegal alien' should be recatergorised. I, personally, find it offensive and does a great injustice to many, such as the woman in the OP, who were brought to the US and other countries, as children.

Yeah Criminal Immigrant would work better, as they are in violation of the law. Hurting peoples delicate feelings should not be a factor in addressing the issue.

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf
If her home meant that much to her, then why did she not address the issue before the authorities did? You cannot give a free pass on this, just because it includes the emotional issue of "children being seperated from their mother". That emotional issue occurs every day her in the US, by citizens and no one gets up in arms about it. This emotional issue should not be used as an excuse to disregard the law, but it should be an example that the laws need to be revised in conjunction with securing the border.