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RE: Zimbabwe's agony - 4/5/2008 3:14:32 PM   
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That was a really good post - thank you.

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RE: Zimbabwe's agony - 4/5/2008 3:36:49 PM   
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You don't know the half of it. Since Mugabe took power Whites have been robbed, raped, beaten and killed and they get no help whatsoever from law enforcement. What's more when they pleaded to go to Engalnd, the English government turned a deaf ear.

Y'know that makes it even more clear, it is all part of the plan. England will allow Jose, Umfufu and Kunta to immigrate, but not Henry, James or Mary. What does that tell you ?


Are you sure that's true? Can any of our CM friends on that side of the pond confirm or negate that?

quote:

The Blacks simply do not have the skill to run a modern commercial farm there.


Why don't they? What prevents them from having said skill?



What I can offer, albeit second hand from a young lady called Kirsty who worked for a time in the office of my former employers; she went off to a sports college or some such which was a waste for the BBC since she spoke the most impeccable English - a bit 1950s in tone, but impeccable! This would be about six years ago.

Kirsty was the daughter of one of the British settler farmers. She had no future in Zimbabwe so came to England for work - so that  goes towards settling some of the above at least. But her parents remained behind - they had a farm to run. But they were being harassed (by which is meant threats of serious violence) by "veterans" and having stuff stolen regularly, by burglary at times and at gunpoint should they be at home. So that goes towards answering another point.

Just before Kirsty went home for a short time over the summer, she asked if she could come to Tesco with me one lunchtime. The Tesco being the closest store to get some lunch but still a car ride away. She took a trolley as we walked in, which puzzled me since my impression was we were getting lunch. She then proceeded to purchase bags and bags of flour and sugar - nothing else, just flour and sugar, which I found rather odd. She was taking them home in her luggage, because even owning a farm, her parents had little or no food due to the recurrent robberies. She was overbuying, since the "customs" and "immigration" when she arrived home would expect 50% of what she had as a "tax".

On the final point, many of the black people could run a farm - after all, they did so for and with the white settler farmers. The problem is that the farms have been handed to "veterans" - little more than thugs, who have neither the knowledge, the experience nor even the will to run a farm.

Hope that answers some of the above.

E

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RE: Zimbabwe's agony - 4/5/2008 3:38:43 PM   
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has been worth it because i am angry, and not because i'm black and therefore given to jungle fits of rage...but because i'm a human being who has to raise children in a world that consists of ignorant assholes who think as you do.
edited to add...sorry Level..i hope the thread can continue, as it was pertinent...i can always continue anything else on Cmail.


Don't worry, the Moron you reacted to is both a bigot and racist. I submit this quote as evidence :
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The Blacks simply do not have the skill to run a modern commercial farm there. It is a fact of life.


Lets do some search and repace shall we?
Let's first try replacing Blacks->Japs; "The Japs simply do not have the skill to run a modern commercial farm there. It is a fact of life."
Then Blacks -> Mexicans; "The Mexicans simply do not have the skill to run a modern commercial farm there. It is a fact of life."
Then Blacks -> Hilbillies; "The Hilbillies simply do not have the skill to run a modern commercial farm there. It is a fact of life."
And then Blacks -> Bananas; "The Bananas simply do not have the skill to run a modern commercial farm there. It is a fact of life."

Aye, the poster is an idiot. Of course the inteligence of Bananas are yet unproven, but I still suspect your average Banana would score better on a SAT test than you-know-who-bigot.

IXian.

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RE: Zimbabwe's agony - 4/5/2008 3:57:48 PM   
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You don't know the half of it. Since Mugabe took power Whites have been robbed, raped, beaten and killed and they get no help whatsoever from law enforcement. What's more when they pleaded to go to Engalnd, the English government turned a deaf ear.
Are you sure that's true? Can any of our CM friends on that side of the pond confirm or negate that?
Speaking as nobodys friend, sob sob, I can confirm that it is true. The basis of Zimbabwe's wealth was agricultural production. When all else failed and playing the race card Mugabe use gangs of thugs to intimidate and if necessary kill the white farmers so that their highly productive farms could be taken over by what turned out to be quite useless blacks. His cronies in fact. This statement can be quite easily checked by a bit if Googling.

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The Blacks simply do not have the skill to run a modern commercial farm there.
quote:

Why don't they? What prevents them from having said skill?

Who knows but the facts are there before the eyes of those who choose to see.
Those that dont want to see can always give me a bit of stick.
Even if you do that it will only make you feel better it will not help the starving masses in Africa.
Which in your odd view of the world is more important ?

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RE: Zimbabwe's agony - 4/5/2008 4:04:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Level
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You don't know the half of it. Since Mugabe took power Whites have been robbed, raped, beaten and killed and they get no help whatsoever from law enforcement. What's more when they pleaded to go to Engalnd, the English government turned a deaf ear.
Are you sure that's true? Can any of our CM friends on that side of the pond confirm or negate that?
Speaking as nobodys friend, sob sob, I can confirm that it is true. The basis of Zimbabwe's wealth was agricultural production. When all else failed and playing the race card Mugabe use gangs of thugs to intimidate and if necessary kill the white farmers so that their highly productive farms could be taken over by what turned out to be quite useless blacks. His cronies in fact. This statement can be quite easily checked by a bit if Googling.


I wasn't clear enough..... his last statement, about who can immigrate, is what I was questioning.

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The Blacks simply do not have the skill to run a modern commercial farm there.

Why don't they? What prevents them from having said skill?

Who knows but the facts are there before the eyes of those who choose to see.
Those that dont want to see can allways give me a bit of stick.



I think knowing why black people are unable to learn rudimentary farm skills is a good thing to know, if in fact it's true.

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RE: Zimbabwe's agony - 4/5/2008 4:06:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

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ORIGINAL: Level
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
You don't know the half of it. Since Mugabe took power Whites have been robbed, raped, beaten and killed and they get no help whatsoever from law enforcement. What's more when they pleaded to go to Engalnd, the English government turned a deaf ear.
Are you sure that's true? Can any of our CM friends on that side of the pond confirm or negate that?
Speaking as nobodys friend, sob sob, I can confirm that it is true. The basis of Zimbabwe's wealth was agricultural production. When all else failed and playing the race card Mugabe use gangs of thugs to intimidate and if necessary kill the white farmers so that their highly productive farms could be taken over by what turned out to be quite useless blacks. His cronies in fact. This statement can be quite easily checked by a bit if Googling.

quote:

The Blacks simply do not have the skill to run a modern commercial farm there.
quote:

Why don't they? What prevents them from having said skill?

Who knows but the facts are there before the eyes of those who choose to see.
Those that dont want to see can allways give me a bit of stick.
seeks..i enjoy your posts and think you are not in the least bigoted...but i think my problem with this:
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The Blacks simply do not have the skill to run a modern commercial farm there. It is a fact of life. 
is that is said as a blanket statement.  Some blacks may not have the skills...but not all.  Just as some white farmers fail, i am sure.  Blacks may not all have the resources, the backing of the government, or an English government to fall back on, true enough...but the way in which it was originally said, to me, insinuated that there was a difference in intelligence based on them being..."the Blacks". With all due respect to yourself...i disagree with that notion.

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RE: Zimbabwe's agony - 4/5/2008 4:07:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

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ORIGINAL: Level

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

You don't know the half of it. Since Mugabe took power Whites have been robbed, raped, beaten and killed and they get no help whatsoever from law enforcement. What's more when they pleaded to go to Engalnd, the English government turned a deaf ear.

Y'know that makes it even more clear, it is all part of the plan. England will allow Jose, Umfufu and Kunta to immigrate, but not Henry, James or Mary. What does that tell you ?


Are you sure that's true? Can any of our CM friends on that side of the pond confirm or negate that?

quote:

The Blacks simply do not have the skill to run a modern commercial farm there.


Why don't they? What prevents them from having said skill?



What I can offer, albeit second hand from a young lady called Kirsty who worked for a time in the office of my former employers; she went off to a sports college or some such which was a waste for the BBC since she spoke the most impeccable English - a bit 1950s in tone, but impeccable! This would be about six years ago.

Kirsty was the daughter of one of the British settler farmers. She had no future in Zimbabwe so came to England for work - so that  goes towards settling some of the above at least. But her parents remained behind - they had a farm to run. But they were being harassed (by which is meant threats of serious violence) by "veterans" and having stuff stolen regularly, by burglary at times and at gunpoint should they be at home. So that goes towards answering another point.

Just before Kirsty went home for a short time over the summer, she asked if she could come to Tesco with me one lunchtime. The Tesco being the closest store to get some lunch but still a car ride away. She took a trolley as we walked in, which puzzled me since my impression was we were getting lunch. She then proceeded to purchase bags and bags of flour and sugar - nothing else, just flour and sugar, which I found rather odd. She was taking them home in her luggage, because even owning a farm, her parents had little or no food due to the recurrent robberies. She was overbuying, since the "customs" and "immigration" when she arrived home would expect 50% of what she had as a "tax".

On the final point, many of the black people could run a farm - after all, they did so for and with the white settler farmers. The problem is that the farms have been handed to "veterans" - little more than thugs, who have neither the knowledge, the experience nor even the will to run a farm.

Hope that answers some of the above.

E


It does indeed help, E.
 
So, whites, or the non-Kuntus, can immigrate, and the blacks, at least the non-thuggish "veterans", can run the farms.

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RE: Zimbabwe's agony - 4/5/2008 4:07:24 PM   
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You don't know the half of it. Since Mugabe took power Whites have been robbed, raped, beaten and killed and they get no help whatsoever from law enforcement. What's more when they pleaded to go to Engalnd, the English government turned a deaf ear.

Y'know that makes it even more clear, it is all part of the plan. England will allow Jose, Umfufu and Kunta to immigrate, but not Henry, James or Mary. What does that tell you ?

I'll admit to racism,but not bigotry, but I have this to say, it was the Whites that made that country into a bread basket. The Blacks simply do not have the skill to run a modern commercial farm there. It is a fact of life. If you can't accept that you not only deny facts that are right in your face, you also gain the label of a bigot, a reverse bigot is a bigot no less. In other words, affirmative action is racial discrimination just the same, only it is like a mirror image.

I knew for years it would come to this. But Mugabe is not much worse than our "Great White Leaders", because we are all going down the tubes.

Get it ? Watch Zimbabwe, you are looking into your own future.

T
i don't want another email from Mod 11...so i'll try to hold it together. 
----Fear mongering is a tactic that pricks love to use to validate the fact that they themselves are flawed and filled with hatred.  The inhumane trying to appeal to human-kind.  Throughout history we have examples of the weak clinging to insane ideology as a means of validating themselves in some way.  The actual line of thinking is as close to the  following, "I feel so empty or less than when compared to others inside, so i will try to oppress or vilify another group to give myself some enhancement"  And for the truly ignorant, these seperations we try to impose based on arbitrary things seem significant. 
I hate to always revert to the past, because that sense of living and blaming present people for past people's actions is a way of enabling your kind of hate to continue, and fester.  But since you so assuredly say "It was the Whites"...let me point out that Africa was RICH in natural resources...without any white person's help. It was the Whites that introduced the colonializationa and rape of said resources to fund and further their own countries...and after instigating a downward spiral of land consumption and violence as a means of securing interests for the "mother countries"...left Africa-shellshocked.  The treatment that Africans received as colonies...perhaps was directly related to the darkness of their skin...but that was the past.  People also believed about the time that European nations began invading and pillaging Africa, that the planets revolve around the Earth...so past ignorance in it's proper perspective...
Your craziness doesn't lessen the fact that there are problems in Zimbabwe...that Africa is in crisis...that instability and militarism doon't blend well...but it's not a question of white superiority, as you seem to believe.  You are wrong for using Zimbawe's unfortunate political climate to implicate that all Africans needing asylum will go about harming innocent white people or that ALL blacks are murderous criminals....just because of being in possession of higher levels of melanin.  i find your post ignorant, racist, bigoted, hateful, and total garbage that is part of the problem...and isn't fit to discuss firther.  Shame on you!  And if i am punished because this is somehow against TOS...well it has been worth it because i am angry, and not because i'm black and therefore given to jungle fits of rage...but because i'm a human being who has to raise children in a world that consists of ignorant assholes who think as you do.
edited to add...sorry Level..i hope the thread can continue, as it was pertinent...i can always continue anything else on Cmail.


Well put.

My view is that Africa`s troubles began when Europeans colonized it.

Almost every disaster and problem can be traced to white exploitation of resources and of the populations in each country.

The method is simple and age old.Once you`ve established yourselves in a country(either by war or pay-offs),the colonizer selects an elite and/or loyal sect or class of the population and puts them in charge over the rest.

Government positions,military and law enforcement slots are all filled with those loyal and they`re given money,land ,stuff and power.But when you vacate,you leave a ticking time bomb.

Like in India,the African model produced the most output/earnings for the colonial powers, w/ the least amount of problems.This method only spawns hatred and loathing and can only lead to trouble.

If there was trouble,the French Foreign Legion or British marines would arrive to "save" this most civil of societies and back up the oppressive elite class running things.

This way of doing business has fed and flamed class/ethnic hatred for decades.

Almost every country that was colonized(world-wide) has suffered these conditions and assaults on civility. And, for no other reason than to aid and to make it easier for assholes to exploit/rob a nation`s natural resources.

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The mass murders in Rwanda ,were a direct result of decades of colonial exploition and the ugly methods used to maintain it.

A few years after Rwanda is free of European influence,it explodes and all that ethnic hate that served the whites so well for years,was playing out on innocent Tutsis at the hands of Hutus.

I recall rightwingers laughing and saying that is what you get when you let the "blacks" run things.

This is a common right-wing view.

That the colonizing/exploitative, asshole whites are doing good deeds around the world and are actually the good guys in all of this.lol

That native Africans can`t prosper on their own and "need" help(even at the end of a gun barrel)

Of course, this is simplistic non-sense and un-informed at best.Hateful and bigoted,at worst.

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RE: Zimbabwe's agony - 4/5/2008 4:14:08 PM   
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So, whites, or the non-Kuntus, can immigrate, and the blacks, at least the non-thuggish "veterans", can run the farms.


My impression Level, was that Kirsty had had little more to do than fill in some forms - although it might be she and her family had dual citizenship or some such which I was not aware of. Meanwhile black Zimbabweans seem only able to get here as asylum seekers and are often refused and scheduled for deportation, though there has been a moratorium on deportation until recently. It was featured on the news a few weeks back that the moratorium was being lifted, and many had received notification to be ready to go home - presumably in the expectation of an MDC election victory.

So I'm afraid Termyn8or appears to be incorrect in his total assessment here, though he's by no means wrong on everything he posts on these forums, at least going from what I've heard first hand and seen in the news.

E

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RE: Zimbabwe's agony - 4/5/2008 4:16:30 PM   
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So, whites, or the non-Kuntus, can immigrate, and the blacks, at least the non-thuggish "veterans", can run the farms.


My impression Level, was that Kirsty had had little more to do than fill in some forms - although it might be she and her family had dual citizenship or some such which I was not aware of. Meanwhile black Zimbabweans seem only able to get here as asylum seekers and are often refused and scheduled for deportation, though there has been a moratorium on deportation until recently. It was featured on the news a few weeks back that the moratorium was being lifted, and many had received notification to be ready to go home - presumably in the expectation of an MDC election victory.

So I'm afraid Termyn8or appears to be incorrect in his total assessment here, though he's by no means wrong on everything he posts on these forums, at least going from what I've heard first hand and seen in the news.

E


Yes, he is unfortunately right about what Mugabe and the "veterans" have done.

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RE: Zimbabwe's agony - 4/5/2008 4:32:45 PM   
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The Blacks simply do not have the skill to run a modern commercial farm there. It is a fact of life

.Quotes within quotes within quotes are making attribution of such quotes quite diffiicult.
I never said this I believe Termy did. I will check and edit if I am wrong.
However I do believe that in Africa the evidence points to the fact that it is true.

So you PC Liberals you have a choice; carry on with your delusionary idealism and abuse those who threaten it or face facts and try to help those who are suffering desperately in part as a consequence of that naive idealism.

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RE: Zimbabwe's agony - 4/5/2008 4:35:49 PM   
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Anyone who makes this kind of assumption is swimming in a large ocean of shit. Anybody can learn skills: are people being taught those skills?

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RE: Zimbabwe's agony - 4/5/2008 4:38:21 PM   
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So you PC Liberals you have a choice; carry on with your delusionary idealism and abuse those who threaten it or face facts and try to help those who are suffering desperately in part as a consequence of that naive idealism.


See, I can agree with this in a way (though I emphasize I don't aim it at Lady E); what rankles me is the thought that a black person is somehow defective, because they are black.
 
Person A is from Zimbabwe. Person A is black. Therefore, Person A does not and can not have the skill to run a farm.
 
If anyone believes that, I'd like to know that. If anyone believes that, I'd like to know why.

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RE: Zimbabwe's agony - 4/5/2008 4:38:49 PM   
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So you PC Liberals you have a choice; carry on with your delusionary idealism and abuse those who threaten it or face facts and try to help those who are suffering desperately in part as a consequence of that naive idealism.


Hey, we get it already, you're a bigot.

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RE: Zimbabwe's agony - 4/5/2008 4:42:53 PM   
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The Blacks simply do not have the skill to run a modern commercial farm there. It is a fact of life

.Quotes within quotes within quotes are making attribution of such quotes quite diffiicult.
I never said this I believe Termy did. I will check and edit if I am wrong.
However I do believe that in Africa the evidence points to the fact that it is true.

So you PC Liberals you have a choice; carry on with your delusionary idealism and abuse those who threaten it or face facts and try to help those who are suffering desperately in part as a consequence of that naive idealism.


Thats bull shit even during the days of slavery the blacks ran the farms and plantations...Of course some views will never die....bounty

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RE: Zimbabwe's agony - 4/5/2008 4:45:03 PM   
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Look Kitten I have been patient with you long enough.

The facts are that in Zimbabwe an extremely prosperous agricultural industry controlled by whites existed. Whites who had been there before even you emerged to grace us with your your bon mots.
Mugabe disposesssed them by force and the result has been chaos piled upon catastrophe resulting in rampant inflation and enormous reduction in living standards.

The South African regime has indicated that they might do the same with regard to so called land reform
People who think like you are part of the problem.

By the way what was your stance on the brutal French response to Algerian nationalism. Only arskin'.

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RE: Zimbabwe's agony - 4/5/2008 4:45:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

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The Blacks simply do not have the skill to run a modern commercial farm there. It is a fact of life

.Quotes within quotes within quotes are making attribution of such quotes quite diffiicult.
I never said this I believe Termy did. I will check and edit if I am wrong.
However I do believe that in Africa the evidence points to the fact that it is true.

So you PC Liberals you have a choice; carry on with your delusionary idealism and abuse those who threaten it or face facts and try to help those who are suffering desperately in part as a consequence of that naive idealism.


I will repeat - the problem is that "veterans" are being given (or taking) the farms. As little but gangster thugs, they have no interest in running a farm and no skills or experience to do so.

When they chased the white farmers off the properties, they also chased the black farm workers off the properties as "collaborators".

The black farm workers could have run the farms as well as the white settlers - after all, they had done much of the work involved, for the white settlers.

But now they have been dispersed into the cities and into exile, so there is no one to run the farms.

The whole thing has been driven by ideology; the "veterans" get the farms for being loyal to Mugabe, the white settlers get expelled for being the wrong colour and the black farm workers get expelled for being on the wrong side of the ideology.

The only place that racism has in this debate, is in relation to the overt anti-white ideology pursued by Mugabe. The failure of the country is nothing to do with it being run by black people, but everything to do with the country being run by an ideologically driven fool.

E

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RE: Zimbabwe's agony - 4/5/2008 4:50:18 PM   
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The Blacks simply do not have the skill to run a modern commercial farm there. It is a fact of life

.Quotes within quotes within quotes are making attribution of such quotes quite diffiicult.
I never said this I believe Termy did. I will check and edit if I am wrong.
However I do believe that in Africa the evidence points to the fact that it is true.

So you PC Liberals you have a choice; carry on with your delusionary idealism and abuse those who threaten it or face facts and try to help those who are suffering desperately in part as a consequence of that naive idealism.


Great,your way or the hi-way.

I can smell the arrogance from over 4000 miles away.

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RE: Zimbabwe's agony - 4/5/2008 4:56:40 PM   
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LadyE: you may have a point if the same pattern had not been repeated across the whole of sub Saharan Africa.
Mugabe is not a fool. He is a genuine idealogue/racist who has been exposed , at great cost to his own indigenous population.

No doubt were it not whites whom he could scapegoat he would have picked on Nkomo's tribe, the name escapes me
In fact I believe he did by denying received aid to his opponents
Let them starve they dont support me. Now almost everybody is starving.

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RE: Zimbabwe's agony - 4/5/2008 5:00:39 PM   
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Mugabe is not a fool. He is a genuine idealogue/racist who has been exposed , at great cost to his own indigenous population.

So how exactly is he not a fool?


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