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RE: Hurt - 10/7/2005 6:27:10 PM   
JustaTop


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They do let you call a cop if they show up on your doorstep-and file a report.

Get enough evidence of that sort,and you can file a civil suit for monetary damages. If this guy was about getting money out of you to feather his little nest-that threat will keep him far far away.

Something to ponder.

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RE: Hurt - 10/7/2005 6:51:48 PM   
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quote:

I must have deserved this treatment but I can’t for the life of me figure out why.


I've not yet read the other posts, but I have to respond to this comment. You did NOT deserve this treatment. He's a jerk. A JERK! It's good to process this in whatever way you need to. Ugh. I'm sorry you are going through this. It's not wrong to want to believe in something good and true, it's not your fault that he's a JERK and didn't deserve you to begin with.

Hugs.

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RE: Hurt - 10/7/2005 7:00:28 PM   
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angelic - as someone recently told me about a rotten ending to something like this:
You're not stupid. You're human.



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RE: Hurt - 10/7/2005 8:34:22 PM   
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No, you are not stupid. I bet you have learned a lot form this relationship, and will have different expectations in the future.
The stupid one is the one staying with him, knowing what he's capable of.
Good riddance! I'm glad you are making positive steps to distance yourself from him.
Hang in there :)

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RE: Hurt - 10/7/2005 9:21:34 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: angelic

First off, I am not looking for sympathy.
<snip>
Thank you for letting me vent.


It's good to have a place, where you feel comfortable enough to share, let alone vent.

Too bad about not wanting sympathy...you're getting it! Like so many others that already posted, I too want to offer that I'm sorry this happened to you, Angelic. I still can't stop from shaking my head in disbelief by his deliberate actions.

If I might offer, please don't allow this incident to cloud, or effect your judgement of trusting others. This incident is probably one of the most severe incidents of decent that I've heard in a long time, and while I know it's crazy to think you can just put it aside, it's important to consciously remember, not to judge all future contacts, based on the memory, and actions, of this one man.

I have some rather severe issues with "trust" myself, and know the damage that it can drain from existing relationships, as well as those that might've been formed, if it were not for my past experiences that cloud my view of things sometimes.

It's hard to think about now, but with time, you'll be able to let go of the pain of his decent, and trust again. I hope that time comes soon for you.

K <still shaking my head at this guy>

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RE: Hurt - 10/7/2005 9:43:23 PM   
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I'm sorry this happened to you Angelic... I'm sorry this bastard took advantage of you.
There are many lessons to be learned, and an opportunity for tremendous growth for you, so that it will never happen to you again, and I don't mean that you shouldn't trust. You should learn, let it make you stronger, and move on in time to a more worthy human being for the next time you offer your heart and trust.
Wishing you well, M

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RE: Hurt - 10/7/2005 10:02:45 PM   
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This is the type of thing that gives all of us a bad name in the community whether we are M's, D's or Gorean,,if he was your Master then why did the other woman call you it ,,He shouldve told you from the door that you wouldnt be the only one but unfourtanly there are opportunistic men out there claiming to be something they arent,,there are alot of predators ,,,,,I feel for you and I wish you the best hopefully things will get better for you

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RE: Hurt - 10/8/2005 6:08:19 AM   
FTopinMichigan


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quote:

ORIGINAL: JustaTop

They do let you call a cop if they show up on your doorstep-and file a report.

Get enough evidence of that sort,and you can file a civil suit for monetary damages. If this guy was about getting money out of you to feather his little nest-that threat will keep him far far away.

Something to ponder.



"Civil suit for monetary damages"....for what? What loss did she suffer, based on his actions that would warrant a law suit? Stealing her heart? Sad yes, but hardly compensable, based on the little bit that is known from the posts here.

I'd sort of love to see this guy < the lying Dom> stand before Judge Judy though!

K


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RE: Hurt - 10/8/2005 6:23:12 AM   
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quote:

I'd sort of love to see this guy < the lying Dom> stand before Judy Judy though!


LOL.

I get a feeling she would give both parties a roasting!


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RE: Hurt - 10/8/2005 6:48:17 AM   
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You are all so kind. Thank you all again.

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RE: Hurt - 10/8/2005 7:30:10 AM   
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quote:

There are many lessons to be learned, and an opportunity for tremendous growth for you, so that it will never happen to you again, and I don't mean that you shouldn't trust. You should learn, let it make you stronger, and move on in time to a more worthy human being for the next time you offer your heart and trust.


Right on the head M!

Don't look at this as 4 years of wasted time...see it as a life lesson that will help you to grow stronger and better. All of our experiences are precious if we view them in that light....even the really shitty ones.

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RE: Hurt - 10/8/2005 7:36:08 AM   
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angelic... I think you are taking the first step to healing... you are angry. Believe it or not, that is a step above self-deprecation. Ok, so you had a gut feeling, but you did bring it up to him and he lied to you. As so many before me have said, you are not stupid, you are human... he had lots of time to make you believe you could trust him. So, you aren't psychic. Maybe it's time you stopped referring to him as an "ex-master" and call him what by what he truly is.. the SOB that used your trust, love and respect against you. In all my experience I can honestly say that Karma will take care of it.. I've also learned that Karma has a much better imagination then I've ever had when it comes to dishing out payback... lol

Jewel


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RE: Hurt - 10/8/2005 8:32:29 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel

angelic... I think you are taking the first step to healing... you are angry. Believe it or not, that is a step above self-deprecation. Ok, so you had a gut feeling, but you did bring it up to him and he lied to you. As so many before me have said, you are not stupid, you are human... he had lots of time to make you believe you could trust him. So, you aren't psychic. Maybe it's time you stopped referring to him as an "ex-master" and call him what by what he truly is.. the SOB that used your trust, love and respect against you. In all my experience I can honestly say that Karma will take care of it.. I've also learned that Karma has a much better imagination then I've ever had when it comes to dishing out payback... lol

Jewel



yes, the prick will get his (better?)... but as i too believe in Karma.. that is why i wonder what i did to deserve this. must have been something.

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RE: Hurt - 10/8/2005 8:55:38 AM   
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quote:

why i wonder what i did to deserve this. must have been something.


You were nice to the wrong person. It happens. I do want to echo the others who have supported the "no further contact" stance. It's the best way to have closure.

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RE: Hurt - 10/8/2005 9:59:54 AM   
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angleic:

Don't be hard on yourself. You didn't do a thing wrong. Unfortunately, there are alot of unscrupulous people out there, just lying in wait to jump on trusting, decent people.

As another poster wrote, I went thru a similar experience but won't go into detail. It hurts like hell, you do feel stupid < this is a passing thing tho> and it breaks your trust of people in general. < again fleeting> I will tell you what I have done, and suggest anyone, male or female, do particularly with a potential partner who lives a bit away from us. But I also do this with someone who lives relatively close.

I require the following info, no exceptions, no excuses;
Address
home phone
work phone
cell phone
name of company he works for and address of company/workplace.

Any reason/excuse that these cannot be provided to me is " my proof" there is a big problem. < married or living with another> and it is the end of the road for me.

If I am given the info and given stipulations/restrictions on how I can use this info.. same thing...end of the road.
Of course if he says something like... please don't call me at work Thurs Am.. I have a meeting... that is reasonable. I do use the info at the beginning of the relationship.. I make a call or two to his home at varying times, But always there will be a phone call or two in the early Am to wish him a good morning and godd day at work.
< wives and live in's would generally be home at this time and he would object to an early Am call>

I fully expect to be " invited " to his home, early in the relationship. Even if it is just for a drink or to watch a video. If I do not get the invite I suggest we stop by or go to his home. One refusal with a good explanation would be OK, but consistant, re peated refussal is not acceptable. I also expect him to take me out publically whether he lives near or far. Out to dinner at a local resturant, shopping at the mall. a quick trip to the grocery store. In other words, I need to be as welcome in his home and his world, as he is in mine.

This isn't always fool proof, but it sure does limit the playing field for the devious. So far, it has worked for me, and the rare person I have met, that has refused or put stipulations on me... has come clean about his " other" relationship.
Just a side note: I do not consistantly " check up" on him.. usually if I am given the info freely and without restrictions, I am fairly sure he is legit. I just do a couple of little things to confirm my trust.

As for your ex's and his " fiance"s harassment of you.. I think the restraining order is a good idea, at least there is a record of the harassment, if nothing else. When this happened to me, the woman of the relationship called me also, I apologized to her, I told her, that I would have nothing farther to do with him, and that I had also been decieved as she was and that this was an issue for she and him. I was fortunate that she was understanding and realized that HE was the problem, not me. I hope that this woman comes to realize that soon, and leaves you to move on and put it in the past.

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RE: Hurt - 10/8/2005 10:15:20 AM   
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again... i thank you all for your support... but i have to say this about the restraining order... at least here in washington... it starts out as a "motion' for restraining order, giving the other person an opportunity to appear and defend him or herself (as it should be)... BEFORE the restraining order is in place... i just do not want to see this man again... even in the 'comfort' of a courtroom.

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RE: Hurt - 10/8/2005 10:44:00 AM   
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THE SAME happened to me, i purchased a car for him to drive, nice for him to lie that he was married, and she benefited from my car....predators!!! hope it comes back and bites them square in the ASS

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RE: Hurt - 10/8/2005 11:02:43 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sweetpettjenny

THE SAME happened to me, i purchased a car for him to drive, nice for him to lie that he was married, and she benefited from my car....predators!!! hope it comes back and bites them square in the ASS


very sorry that happened to you... it truly makes me question humanity.

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RE: Hurt - 10/8/2005 11:13:44 AM   
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i'd like to make a suggestion... even tho i started this thread as a way to vent to help me get thru this period in my life... and i cannot express my gratitude for all of the support... maybe it could change to just be one where 'hurt'.... is a place to vent to help all heal.

just a suggestion

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RE: Hurt - 10/8/2005 11:38:28 AM   
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quote:

thank you all... i will survive... i'd survive quicker if the two of them like fell in an open sewer hole.


These are the times that I just have to embrace the Karma's a bitch theory. You may never know when it happens or necessarily what happened but you have to believe the theory that negative energy the we put out into the universe comes back & bites us in the butt.

Just try not to wet yourself laughing when their new house gets forclosed on, he gets pulled into court for failure to pay support & their dog runs away.

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