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kittinSol -> RE: Cock sucking (4/16/2008 5:27:51 PM)

Isn't it that the most unlikely desires come out of need [8D] ?



popeye1250 -> RE: Cock sucking (4/16/2008 5:29:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cjan

popeye, you seem awful interested in cocksucking... are you sure you never been to the BROdeo ? Or have some such secret aspiration ? [sm=excuseme.gif]


Cjan, just trying to inject some levity into the conversation!
You know us "sensitive" types, always trying to help![:D]



kittinSol -> RE: Cock sucking (4/16/2008 5:31:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

[...] just trying to inject some levity into the conversation!



Pop, I've rarely seen you use a more appropriate word.



popeye1250 -> RE: Cock sucking (4/16/2008 5:34:23 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Isn't it that the most unlikely desires come out of need [8D] ?


KittinSol, of course!
Like you and me, you may think on the surface that we wouldn't get along but deep down inside.......
And everytime I respond to one of your threads I always make sure I spell your name right.
I don't do that for every woman you know![:)]



DesFIP -> RE: Cock sucking (4/16/2008 5:41:16 PM)

I am not bisexual.

I am not secretly denying it. I do not have any social conditioning that prevents me from accepting this. I have spent the last fortysome years summering on one of Fire Island's gay communities. I have had come ons from guys one night, who were competing in the Miss Fire Island drag contest the next. I spent a lot of years with my gay friends in gay bars and dance clubs. My two 'aunts' are lesbians who have been together for over forty years. I've had come ons from women.

And I'm still not bi. And I still am not attracted to bi males as anything other than friends. Why do guys think all girls are bi? Sigh. Rant over.

For that matter, I'm not secretly denying my domme side. I don't secretly want to beat a boy's ass. I'm not pretending to be a sub while 'really' deep down being a switch.

I'm a straight sub female, very boring though it is.



Aneirin -> RE: Cock sucking (4/16/2008 5:46:45 PM)

Good, a worthy answer.



cjan -> RE: Cock sucking (4/16/2008 5:48:35 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

quote:

ORIGINAL: cjan

popeye, you seem awful interested in cocksucking... are you sure you never been to the BROdeo ? Or have some such secret aspiration ? [image]http://www.collarchat.com/upfiles/smiley/excuseme.gif[/image]


Cjan, just trying to inject some levity into the conversation!
You know us "sensitive" types, always trying to help![image]http://www.collarchat.com/image/s2.gif[/image]


Me too, pops. You know I enjoy pulling your chain once in awhile.



popeye1250 -> RE: Cock sucking (4/16/2008 5:53:25 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: cjan

quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

quote:

ORIGINAL: cjan

popeye, you seem awful interested in cocksucking... are you sure you never been to the BROdeo ? Or have some such secret aspiration ? [sm=excuseme.gif]


Cjan, just trying to inject some levity into the conversation!
You know us "sensitive" types, always trying to help![:D]


Me too, pops. You know I enjoy pulling your chain once in awhile.



"Pulling my chain?"



kinkyviolet -> RE: Cock sucking (4/16/2008 6:16:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

...What exactly is wrong with sucking a cock from a male perspective ?

Does sucking a cock make you gay ?

And what is wrong with being gay, or for that matter, Bi sexual, women seem to be ok with it, but men feel it is anethema.

Why is it males seem so scared, to do this act?

IMHO, everyone, male and female is to some extent bi sexual, it is just social conditioning that creates stigma.



There are plenty of men that like to suck cock - a lot more than you would think. Just check out craigslist in the M4M section and you'll find a plethora of "straight" men looking for cock to suck or more. And they use that word: "straight." Why? I don't know, but it's just a label. Slap a label that says "tomato soup" on a can of paint, and it's still paint. You wouldn't just open the can and consume the contents without first looking at what was inside would you? So why would you judge a person based on what they or anyone else decides is a good label for them?

So many people get hung up on labels. "No fat chicks," "no fems," "no bisexuals," "no cross-dressers," "straight men only," etc. They all have their own definition for each label, which may or may not coincide with someone else's. So, when one person posts an ad that says "no fat chicks," and another reads that, the two may have totally different opinions on what is or is not a "fat chick." Maybe 5'5" and 200 lbs. is "voluptuous" to one and "fat" to the other.

"Straight," "gay," "bi," "curious," - they're all just labels and open to interpretation. I think that most men prefer the term "straight" because that's what they consider "normal." If they were "gay," they'd have to start going to the theater and talking with a lisp and wearing pink (these are some of the things some people associate with being gay). Whether or not they want to suck cock is beside the point.

Anyway, I'm getting off topic. As I mentioned above, there are tons of men that like sucking cock, gay, straight, bi, or whatever. There's nothing wrong with it, but on the other hand, it's not for everyone. It sounds to me like you're either trying to justify your desire to suck cock while still claiming you are "straight," or you're trying to get a male friend of yours to try sucking cock (I'm guessing yours), and you're looking for a way to win him over. If it's the former, get past the labels and just do what feels good for you. If it's the latter, or perhaps that you think everyone should enjoy sucking cock, well, like it or not, not everyone enjoys sucking cock, and not everyone has to try it to know they don't like it. Different strokes for different folks, right?

I, for one, love sucking cock. It's one of my favorite sex acts, next to eating pussy. The only problem for me is that men are gross, smelly, hairy, and ugly. Well, most of them anyway. But then again, those are just labels, too.



Aneirin -> RE: Cock sucking (4/16/2008 6:29:33 PM)

Good answer, and something does answer to an extent. I was interested, why, because I am very open minded and of the belief that one does not know until they try and try twice as a friend says, as you can never know on a first attempt.

I am also interested where it all went wrong, what was acceptable to ancient civilisations, the Greeks for example to what we have now,  as I am very interested in social anthropology.



cjan -> RE: Cock sucking (4/16/2008 6:43:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

Good answer, and something does answer to an extent. I was interested, why, because I am very open minded and of the belief that one does not know until they try and try twice as a friend says, as you can never know on a first attempt.

I am also interested where it all went wrong, what was acceptable to ancient civilisations, the Greeks for example to what we have now,  as I am very interested in social anthropology.



I think to think of it as "all having gone wrong" is a mistake. The Greeks and Romans, to name just two, were different cultures with different values and ideas on sexuality and morality. The history of sexual practices in those two cultures (especially the Romans, imo), is fascinating. The History channel ran a few programs on this very subject. It was eye opening for sure.Check it out., I'm sure you'll find it interesting.



domiguy -> RE: Cock sucking (4/16/2008 6:52:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

Good answer, and something does answer to an extent. I was interested, why, because I am very open minded and of the belief that one does not know until they try and try twice as a friend says, as you can never know on a first attempt.

I am also interested where it all went wrong, what was acceptable to ancient civilisations, the Greeks for example to what we have now,  as I am very interested in social anthropology.



I'm not homophobic in the least....No real desire to suck a dick. Just wired that way. It's not A fear of Hell or being dissed on by parents or friends...In fact if I was curious I could do it on the DL and who would know? So for some it just is what it is.


The real question should be why are the lesbians on CM cuter, on the whole, (No pun intended) then the straight chicks?...What in the fuck is up with that shit?

I want answers...Should I write my congressman?...Go to an Indigo Girls concert? Call Birkenstock's customer service line?

Help me.





KCherry -> RE: Cock sucking (4/16/2008 6:59:44 PM)

Maybe its just to tease you Domiguy.   On topic: I think some people like sucking cock and some dont, goes the same for eating pussy or any other sextual act, regardless of it being a man or a woman performing. It being a sextual stigma is somewhat natural for our society, even if it isn't a fair or objective view, then again, our whole lifestyle is a bit of a sextual stigma now isn't it?



MzMia -> RE: Cock sucking (4/16/2008 7:14:27 PM)

I am not bisexual, and I am not physically attracted to women.
 
I admire and enjoy looking at women, but I have not desire to have sex with another woman.
 
I think many people are bi-curious, but I always take issue with statements that "everyone" is bisexual.
 
It sounds like someone trying to reason a personal issue.
 
Everyone is NOT bisexual and everyone does not desire to be with the same sex.



NeedToUseYou -> RE: Cock sucking (4/16/2008 7:37:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

Ok, for not wanting to hijack DiannaVesta's post in the ask a mistress forum, I will ask here, as I have questions based upon the  ongoing  thread.

What exactly is wrong with sucking a cock from a male perspective ?

Nothing I guess as a general response, as in I don't care if a dude wants to suck another dudes cock, whatever. However, I doubt as in 99.999999999% odds, that a cock will ever enter my mouth outside of being beat down half to death and forced, that's it. Why? For the same reason I don't want to fuck a horse, or a cow, or a hole in a tree. I like the typical female facial features and body lines, I get semi-hard just visualizing cock in pussy. The same doesn't happen if I envision a man sucking, or dudes fucking, or me fucking a tree. It's just a dead area.

Does sucking a cock make you gay ?

I'd say repeated male on male sucking would mean you are gay or bisexual.

And what is wrong with being gay, or for that matter, Bi sexual, women seem to be ok with it, but men feel it is anethema.

Personally, like I said there is nothing wrong with it, but it is as  relevant to what I find sexually attractive as seeing dogs lick each others privates (I'm not comparing gays to dogs, just saying both acts that don't excite me sexually)

Why is it males seem so scared, to do this act?

Not wanting to do something is not always equivalent to fear, I don't want to learn to knit, why? I just don't care about it. I'd like to learn to build a house from scratch though, some would rather pay someone to do that kind of thing. I don't even get excited by all women and wouldn't want to fuck them or be blown by them either. Sexually, I'd say I'm attracted to any degree to about 40% of the below age 50 population, and very highly attracted to about 5-10%.

Anyway, I think it's a flawed premise that people will want to do anything they aren't scared of, personally it'd be like fucking a tree like I said earlier. Am I scared of fucking a tree, since I doubt I'll ever want to fuck a tree? No, I just don't find trees sexually attractive, at all.

IMHO, everyone, male and female is to some extent bi sexual, it is just social conditioning that creates stigma.

Everyone has an opinion, I've even tested this universal bi theory to some degree. I got a bottle of jerk off lotion, got myself all hard, then started watching gay porn. It took absolutely forever, because I was so not interested.

For what it is worth, it sounds like you are experiencing a case of "everyone really thinks like me", I used to think that way to, but people actually in reality do not think the same at all about some things, sex being a vary varied thing is probably one of the most fractured, in terms of turn ons. Like Feet, I abhor 99% of all feet, but I see feet being shoved on profiles that I'd puke if I had to suck on them. I'm not scared of the foot, I just don't want to suck it.




DDraigeuraid -> RE: Cock sucking (4/16/2008 8:14:36 PM)

Yes, I am homophobic!!  I will admit it.  But that does not mean HATING gays, bisexuals, etc.  The word phobia means fear of.

When I was a young man, I was stabbed in school, by another slightly older student.  I had not had any schooling in sex of any type.  In rural Kansas in the mid 60s, no-one had any sex ed.  I believe that the other young man was gay, by some of his sayings and actions, and by what I was told after the incident.  I know that he was emotionally disturbed.  He tried to kill me, and I almost lost my arm.

For many years I was conditioned to fear gays.  Didn't know anything about them and didn't want to know.

Do I hate them?  No.  The first munch I ever went to was in the basement meeting room of a gay bar in downtown Kansas City.  Shall we say I was as nervous as a long tailed cat in a romm full of rocking chairs?  But I went.  I happened to be in fairly close proximity of a gay Daddy Master in full leather gear.  We did get to talking, and found that we really had a lot in common in what we wanted in the lifestyle.  We just decided we liked the same things, but different plumbing from the neck down.

So yes, homophobic, but not in any way hateful or angry.  It just does not appeal to ME.  Your milage may vary.

And BTW, on the upside?  My injured arm kept me the hell out of Vietnam.

Dragon



DDraigeuraid -> RE: Cock sucking (4/16/2008 8:18:10 PM)

And on the topic of cocksucking, I'll tell you of my worst ever blowjob....It was great!

Dragon



popeye1250 -> RE: Cock sucking (4/16/2008 8:25:48 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MzMia

I am not bisexual, and I am not physically attracted to women.
 
I admire and enjoy looking at women, but I have not desire to have sex with another woman.
 
I think many people are bi-curious, but I always take issue with statements that "everyone" is bisexual.
 
It sounds like someone trying to reason a personal issue.
 
Everyone is NOT bisexual and everyone does not desire to be with the same sex.


Mia, well put.
I always thought that Ronald Reagan was a very handsome man but I never wanted to suck his dick.
And I have no problems with gay or bi people either.
Want to get married, go right ahead!
I think most people in this site are pretty tolerant of other's sexual orientation.



LadyHibiscus -> RE: Cock sucking (4/16/2008 8:32:26 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DDraigeuraid

Yes, I am homophobic!!  I will admit it.  But that does not mean HATING gays, bisexuals, etc.  The word phobia means fear of.

When I was a young man, I was stabbed in school, by another slightly older student.  I had not had any schooling in sex of any type.  In rural Kansas in the mid 60s, no-one had any sex ed.  I believe that the other young man was gay, by some of his sayings and actions, and by what I was told after the incident.  I know that he was emotionally disturbed.  He tried to kill me, and I almost lost my arm.

For many years I was conditioned to fear gays.  Didn't know anything about them and didn't want to know.


Dragon


I think that his being a homicidal nutjob was totally separate from his sexuality.  Honest.

~~~



Lordandmaster -> RE: Cock sucking (4/16/2008 8:53:08 PM)

There's nothing wrong with being gay if that's what does it for ya, but I'd have to say that yeah, sucking a cock makes you gay (unless it was against your will, of course).

Otherwise I'm not sure of what the word "gay" means.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aneirin

Does sucking a cock make you gay ?

And what is wrong with being gay, or for that matter, Bi sexual, women seem to be ok with it, but men feel it is anethema.



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