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RE: Marines Ignore Opium Crops in Afghanistan - 5/9/2008 9:39:09 PM   
Irishknight


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Status: offline 		The only way to win is to get the Afgan people to fight the Taliban or to commit complete and total genocide on them. 

As much of an asshole as I am, even I won't vote for genocide.  

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RE: Marines Ignore Opium Crops in Afghanistan - 5/9/2008 11:14:03 PM   
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It`s a shame really as your countless unproven and absurd claims, spoil the good posts you often make.
A compliment. Thank you Ps53.
 
Is the glass half empty, or is it half full? Or can it possibly be - weird and frightening as it is - that it is filled to the brim, but erroneously not perceived as such?

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RE: Marines Ignore Opium Crops in Afghanistan - 5/10/2008 2:21:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Rule, i dont discount crackpot theories if someone can provide more information. It`s public knowledge that MI5 ect had agents within the paramilitaries. I have yet to see a report anywhere which even alludes to your assertions. So until i see proof of otherwise, i shall have to run with the facts that i know.

Your welcome to the compliment, it never hurts to tell the truth 

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RE: Marines Ignore Opium Crops in Afghanistan - 5/10/2008 2:49:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Irishknight

The only way to win is to get the Afgan people to fight the Taliban or to commit complete and total genocide on them. 

As much of an asshole as I am, even I won't vote for genocide.  



FIGHT THE TALIBAN?

That's crazy.

The US invaded *specifically* to overthrow the Taliban and get the '03 poppy crop in the ground, since the Taliban had very effectively shut down all the poppy/opium production.

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RE: Marines Ignore Opium Crops in Afghanistan - 5/10/2008 10:12:39 AM   
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24489703/

This is fucked up. Here's two direct threats to the US. Afghanistan supplies 98% of the world's opium for heroin. And direct emenies of the US like the Taliban openly tax these local farmers and use the money ot buy weapons. Anybody else find the problem with the situation of leaving the crops.



Two people I will never second guess.....my grandmother.....and a US Marine in combat......

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RE: Marines Ignore Opium Crops in Afghanistan - 5/10/2008 10:18:57 AM   
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Those "black projects" included giving weapons to the Iranian Hostage Takers. Ollie North committed treason.
To the Iranian Hostage Takers specifically? Do you have a reference?

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RE: Marines Ignore Opium Crops in Afghanistan - 5/10/2008 10:59:08 AM   
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FIGHT THE TALIBAN?

That's crazy.

The US invaded *specifically* to overthrow the Taliban and get the '03 poppy crop in the ground, since the Taliban had very effectively shut down all the poppy/opium production.


Any chance of a link ?  or is this just more wild speculation.

Here is an article explaining the poppy industry a little.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/HK01Df01.html


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RE: Marines Ignore Opium Crops in Afghanistan - 5/10/2008 11:26:26 AM   
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This one will work for me. Hey, as long as I'm doing Mettler.
http://us.mt.com/mt/filters/products-applications_analytical-instruments_thermal-values_fp62-meltingpoint-apparatus/FP_measuring_cell_fp62_0x00024948000281c70003f2d1.jsp
What do I want to do? Verify purity of recrystallizations.

I used an Orion pH/Conductivity/DO meter at Shell, but that was years ago. It's all changed now.


You are right, this technology changes, but some of the old stuff is still adequate for the job.

And I will be happy if I never, ever have to do a recristallisation again. I have done sooooooooooo many during aprenticeship.

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RE: Marines Ignore Opium Crops in Afghanistan - 5/10/2008 2:55:48 PM   
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Click thie link & you'll understand it...
THE TRUTH & LIES OF 9/11


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RE: Marines Ignore Opium Crops in Afghanistan - 5/10/2008 3:03:14 PM   
Rule


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Status: offline 		That is more than two hours of video. Perhaps you can summarize the high points?

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RE: Marines Ignore Opium Crops in Afghanistan - 5/10/2008 4:19:15 PM   
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Dude I'm not going to sit here & spoon feed ya it's obvious in the first twenty minutes what he's trying to say, Thereafter he's basically laying it all out & offering the proof


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RE: Marines Ignore Opium Crops in Afghanistan - 5/10/2008 4:30:59 PM   
Politesub53


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Status: offline 		I have just watched the first hour, The presenter makes some interesting points, providing you are open minded. I will watch the rest when i get time.

Thanks for the link MR77

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RE: Marines Ignore Opium Crops in Afghanistan - 5/10/2008 7:41:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterRenegade77

Dude I'm not going to sit here & spoon feed ya it's obvious in the first twenty minutes what he's trying to say, Thereafter he's basically laying it all out & offering the proof



20 minutes? Only took me about 5 and I think 1 was taken up watching JFK getting shot over and over.

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RE: Marines Ignore Opium Crops in Afghanistan - 5/11/2008 2:47:12 AM   
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Dude I'm not going to sit here & spoon feed ya it's obvious in the first twenty minutes what he's trying to say, Thereafter he's basically laying it all out & offering the proof



As i said, i have watched the first hour or more. Im not sure its proof that would stand up in a court of law. That said, there are many interesting facts and coincidences, linking different events in recent history.

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RE: Marines Ignore Opium Crops in Afghanistan - 5/11/2008 3:44:03 AM   
Rule


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Status: offline 		Watched it. Interesting.

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RE: Marines Ignore Opium Crops in Afghanistan - 5/11/2008 4:06:16 AM   
DomAviator


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Status: offline 		What absolute drivel! The delusional rantings of a discredited cop... First of all, if the CIA wanted him dead and "took a shot at him" he would have been pushing up daisies. Yeah OK, a narcotics cop gets shot at so it has to be the CIA out to silence him. I bet this guy sleeps with tinfoil wrapped around his head.

By the way, watching this guy babble about how the financial markets work was practically comical. He has taken a post graduate level subject and dumbed it down to the level of a special ed student in 6th grade economics. He babbles on about P/E ratio - odd how he didnt get into the DCF model which uses assigned betas, or Gordon's Growth model, or any of 100 other approaches used by people sharper than washed out cops. Check out the REAL formulas in this link http://som.yale.edu/finance.center/pdf/equityw.pdf and you will see how little Barney Fife in the video actually knows...

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RE: Marines Ignore Opium Crops in Afghanistan - 5/11/2008 4:15:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		DomAvaitor, sure some of it is simplistic and even speculative, yet the links between certain companies and events are there for all to see. I have not said its 100% fact, just that its interesting.

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RE: Marines Ignore Opium Crops in Afghanistan - 5/11/2008 4:16:06 AM   
Rule


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Status: offline 		Of course he is not to be trusted, considering his parentage. Most likely he is a decoy, deployed to flush out witnesses that do know something, after which they are assassinated.
 
Interesting is the disinformation that he included: four planes took off. It is a lie: only two took off and those two landed without a scratch.
Another bit of his disinformation: a war is being fought against islam and he never mentioned it.
 
Several other bits of information are interesting, though.

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RE: Marines Ignore Opium Crops in Afghanistan - 5/11/2008 4:49:07 AM   
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Interesting is the disinformation that he included: four planes took off. It is a lie: only two took off and those two landed without a scratch.


Bullshit! Four planes took off. Two went into the WTC, one into the Pentagon, one into a field in PA. Those planes were destroyed. PERIOD. You know, its not like you can hide an airliner. You dont just repaint the tail number and call it good. Those planes have log books for the airframe, the avionics, each engine, maintenence histories going back to the very day that component rolled off the line. They are full of life limited components each of which have their own log books and records, complete with the sign off of the mechanic, flight engineer, or pilot who approved them for return to service. Something as simple as the VOR indicator in my Cessna, is accompanied by a log book entry every 30 days signed off with my name, license #, date, place of check, and bearing error. Then there is the annual sign off fron the A&P with IA who did my annual inspection, and the biennial sign off from the avionics shop, going right back to the red tag when it was originally sold. With any gap in those records - its garbage. Part 121 (airline) or Part 135 (commuter/charter) regulations are even tougher. On any airliner, they can account for the origin, source of supply, date of installation, service history, and disposition of every part of the aircraft right down to nuts and bolts.

In fact, even on my Cessna, if I replace a bolt or nut - with an AN approved one provided by an aircraft supplier NOT one from NAPA or home depot- i fuck up the threads on the old one with a grinder so it cant be accidentally reused . I then enter it as destroyed in the appropriate logbook, and log the replacement including the fact that it was purchased from XXXXX and I staple the invoice to the log page.

(For example lets say I cross thread a bolt. The following entry will be made in the airframe logbook: "AN5-26 Bolt on upper left oil cooler attachment point damaged by cross threading. Drilled hole was visually inspected and restored to service limits using tap. Defective bolt rendered unusable via grinding and discarded, bolt replaced with AN5-26 purchased from Chief Aircraft Supply. Torqued to factory specs, and safety wire replaced. Aircraft returned to service. Signed / Printed Name/ Dated / License # )

Airliners do not "vanish" and come back reborn, and you can bet you ass that even if they were parted out somewhere, somehow, a part would turn up blowing the whole "conspiracy". Frankly, four $150 million dollar apeice objects each with 200,000+ pieces of value do not simply "vanish" without anything turning up on the market.

Sorry to blow the Bush bashing conspiracy but they were crashed....

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RE: Marines Ignore Opium Crops in Afghanistan - 5/11/2008 5:25:27 AM   
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Bullshit! Four planes took off.

The Bureau of Traffic Safety has no record of the tail numbers of Flights 11 and 77, nor any record of their take off time - and recording that information is what the BTS does. Conclusions: those planes did not exist, did not fly.

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Two went into the WTC, one into the Pentagon, one into a field in PA. Those planes were destroyed. PERIOD.
  
And you know this how? By parroting someone who has spoonfed you this information? I have already shown that half of your assertion is incorrect as two of those four planes never took off. So half of those objects were never hit by a plane. Wanna bet that the other half was not either?

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You know, its not like you can hide an airliner. You dont just repaint the tail number and call it good.
  
So perhaps two of those planes were scrapped already. Or they did repaint the tailnumber and those planes are now used someplace where nobody will ever look for them.

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On any airliner, they can account for the origin, source of supply, date of installation, service history, and disposition of every part of the aircraft right down to nuts and bolts.
  
Oh yeah? Then pray tell me when those planes prior to their alledged flights were provided with victuals and toilet paper, and in what amounts by what supplier, in fact the names of the individuals that did the supplying. Never heard anything about that. Rather difficult to supply two planes that do not exist, isn't it?

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ORIGINAL: DomAviator
Airliners do not "vanish" and come back reborn, and you can bet you ass that even if they were parted out somewhere, somehow, a part would turn up blowing the whole "conspiracy".
  
Lots of stuff vanishes and comes back again somehow. Ask any cattle thief.
What number was on the toilet seat of those planes? (Passengers want to know.)

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ORIGINAL: DomAviator
Frankly, four $150 million dollar apiece objects each with 200,000+ pieces of value do not simply "vanish" without anything turning up on the market.
  
We ought to erect a statue dedicated to the Unknown Thief.
 

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