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Saying " I wont vote for candidate X because he is black " is racist. Try and spin that all you like, but it wont wash.
Actually while I think that racism will play a major issue in the south and rural areas of the country... As I think about it I have to say that in light of present circumstances I would not vote for a female or Jewish candidate either for reasons of legitimacy rather than racism. Thats not to say I am a mysoginist or an antisemite - my first wife was both female and Jewish but we are at war with various radical islamic factions and we are poised on the brink with serveral other radical islamic factions. The cultures of our enemies dont take women very seriously, and the Jewish thing goes without saying....
Consider for a moment the Iranian reaction to a Hillary / Lieberman administration? A Jewish president or vice president would be immediately labled a puppet of Isreal blah blah blah and I dont think a female would be taken very seriously even if she was President of the United States and had the clout of the US Military behind her. I mean I could just see that idiot in Iran spewing how "the Great satan thinks a woman can tell us we cannot have nuclear weapons. The wrath of allah on this country ruled by women" blah blah blah....
By comparison they know McCain is a Naval Aviator and while they may not like him - they know that he is a stone cold killer who will gladly slaughter them by the thousands, then come back to the ship and laugh and sing songs about the nights carnage with his buddies over breakfast. McCain carries an aura of "how big are your balls, just try me" whereas I think they would defy Hillary simply to prove they wont back down from a female....
I think since Bill has made such great international contacts and made the U.S. very popular worldwide, he would really be an asset to Hillary. The muslim countries would probably think that Hillary is just a puppet to Bill. Maybe. Or just having Bill inside the White House (instead of Bushy Boy) will be a positive. But definitely having Bill as her husband is a huge asset in my opinion. I think only the extremists would not like Hillary because she's a woman. Benazir Bhutto was a respected leader in a muslim country. I guess women have to be smart in their approach towards men. Not sure Hillary is capable of this ... lol Being firm, strong, and positive, without being bitchy, attacking, and negative.
Mccain in my opinion, is more of a loose cannon. His tough demeanor has a lot to do with dealing with the pain from being a former P.O.W. I don't know how seriously one can take him. He's often seen as being slightly crazy as well, as he isn't able to control his emotions at times. But Mccain is a tough guy name, gotta hand that to him. 
In general, think Republicans are more manipulative and would benefit from the rural masses remaining uneducated. (they probably welcomed Obama to join the presidential race, knowing that down the road he would divide the democratic party. Instead it just being Hillary all the way.). They believe in dog-eat-dog, survival of the fittest (with no regard to underlying universal principals of equality for all, treat those as you'd like to be treated behavior, nothing deeper than doing things to get the results they want for themselves. It's all about whatever serves their own selfish purpose, do it...it's so cool and makes us look strong!) If our country's government were built on survival of the fittest, then we would have a dictatorship. The stupid rednecks believed in survival of the fittest and voted for George Bush who seemed to be like them --yes, he believed in survival of the fittest as well!.... which is why he ended up fucking all the rednecks in the ass (basically screwing the lower and middle classes). And sending all the rednecks along with a lot of the blacks, mexicans, etc. (not entirely true, but all the very young and often from uneducated backgrounds usually in this country) off to war or have their minds, bodies, or lives screwed up in Iraq. LOL What irony. lol there is nothing funny about war, despite the irony being hilarious. Now the republicans are sending out these dumb cartoons via email, and the rednecks open up and believe whatever they read via e-mail. LOL yea, i'm really going to feel compassion and empathy for the rednecks... when pigs fly.
< Message edited by chickpea -- 5/14/2008 3:30:32 AM >
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RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in thei... - 
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Hmm...interesting, so nobody noticed Obama was black until he said it? Amazing, the humanitarian color blindness of the people on CM! Had he stood up and made speeches, and never referred to himself as a person of mixed race (he never denies his mother's heritage) he would've looked like an insane person. 
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. What you said above is nothing other than racism, pure and simple. Ignorant, uneducated white WV'ans "measure the distance between their eyes" blah, blah, blah. That's an asanine, ignorant racist statement if there EVER was one. Where are all the open-minded, wouldn't-think-a-racist thought liberal hipsters decrying this? 
Same place they always are. Sitting on their hands laughing, thinking up more ways to cleverly make racist comments against poor whites. Disgusting. People will cry and whine all day about people admitting they won't vote for Obama simply because he's black. That is indeed sad and pathetic, I agree. However, someone turns around and makes a post like this poking fun at them (and every other white WV'ian living in the hills and hollows) and what he said is even worse and not a peep. Shameful indeed.........luci (a native West Virginian with 2 college degrees, getting ready to pursue a Master's degree who did indeed vote for Obama) 
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I suppose West Virginia is Redneck enough that 20% actually can openly proclaim their racism out in public without repercussions from the non-whites around. 
..................luci
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. CJan, thank you man. I cannot believe your reaction. I've been here on these boards for about 14 months now and I don't think anyone has ever replied to my complaints about this topic like that. I'm floored. 
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