LadyEllen
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Joined: 6/30/2006 From: Stourport-England Status: offline
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I'm sorry Stef, but based on my experience - and I realise you have valuable experience too - I feel Faery is closer to the mark with this one. I have found there are several groups who desire transition; a) genuine transsexuals (of various ilks) b) intersexed people who dont realise they are c) fantasists (generally crossdressers, but not always) d) crossdressers who want to feminise more permanently e) people with some GID which propels them down the line f) psychologically damaged (rarely dangerous) people a) will do fine, though its a difficult journey for anyone b) will do fine, as long as they get the treatment c) will usually not get anywhere, but where they do they regret it and end up depressed and suicidal d) depending on how far they go, will do fine; SRS though is something they regret and end up depressed and suicidal e) depending on how far they go, will do fine - its a delicate balance theyre striving for really f) will usually not get anywhere, but occasionally do The problem for all these groups and for the psychologists, psychiatrists and surgeons dealing with them in a national health service, is that it is very easy to get treatment - as long as one tells the right tale - which is easy to accomplish by virtue of the coaching that goes on via the web. It then becomes a problem for the psych and medical professionals to tell the genuine from those who have been coached. And where there is deception, it then becomes a problem in that suicide is a pretty poor prognosis for any treatment. The result for national health services is that those who are genuine have to jump dozens of hoops along with the rest, because the process has to be rigorous enough to deter the rest - and yet it still sometimes doesnt work. In the meantime, the availability of private means for transition opens up a whole other can of worms in that if one has the money then one can get the treatment. And where there is only private means, this results in treatment according to wealth not need - which will often favour many of the groups who really shouldnt be getting treatment whilst disfavouring those who need it. I live in a semi-rural / semi-urban area of about 100 square miles. We nevertheless should and do have our share of genuine transsexuals as well as representatives of the other groups I listed. Yet according to population, we should not have the frequency of cases such as these (all in the last two years) 1) I get a call from a trans charity north of the area. Someone has phoned in, distraught - can I assist? This person has just had full SRS, they have never lived a day of their life as female. 2) I get a call from the local police. Someone has been repeatedly beaten up - can I assist? This person is so obviously female I cant believe they were ever noticed for such attention- yet cannot get an appointment with any national health service clinic as theyre living in a hostel. 3) I get a call regarding a known sexual predator, a highly disturbed and dangerous manipulator who seeks vulnerable victims - can I assist? This person has just had full SRS on the national health service. And I personally know three transsexuals in this area who have the full transition and are living very happily. What seems clear, is that not all those who request transition treatments are genuinely in need of it or will benefit from it. Yet some get through - and these are the "problem cases" which Faery and I have noted. It has nothing to do with self hatred at all - it has to do with whether the person is actually clinically transsexual or not, and the dire consequences of them receiving treatment where they are not. Now I accept that being revolted by their penis is not a requirement of diagnosis - indeed in my case I'm not personally revolted by it, its there and always has been and one gets used to it much in the way one would get used to a birthmark. For me its a matter of indifference - if it fell off tomorrow it wouldnt be anything to bother me. But there is a world of difference between not being revolted and being totally enamoured with having a penis such as males are. I would seriously doubt the genuineness of someone requesting SRS who likes, enjoys, loves even, having a penis. And of course, some who are genuine dont (or cant) do the SRS and that doesnt make them any less genuine - but its surely grounds for questions to be raised if someone truly is genuine and yet likes, enjoys, loves even, having a penis? I have to say, the only physically male people I have ever met who present as female and yet fall into this category and welcome sexual activity with their penis, are crossdressers and others of the assorted unsuitable categories I listed above. And thats fine - as long as they dont then proceed to doing something which will wreck their lives. E
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