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RE: Shemales - 5/16/2008 9:21:11 AM   
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not to mention that once on hormones it can have a complete change of personality on the person taking them.  which causes major problems for many who have this effect.

plus it is super easy to get hormones over the internet.  these are often fake hormones and almost always the wrong dosage.  which causes health problems.  as well these people do not get regular checkups while on hormones and this causes major issues.

i was going to post something like your long msg with the different types but i got fedup arguing my points and new someone else would continue it.

there are also the jerk off buddy types.  that suddenly you hear a year later from and they begin transition.  these are also very suicidal.  they tend to be the ones who cant accept that they are women.  so they think that by being with a trans it satisfies this issue for them.  then there are the types who are closet gay men...but transition because they cant accept that they are gay men ..also very suicidal.


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RE: Shemales - 5/16/2008 9:25:50 AM   
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I'm gonna defend this guy. Trannies are hot. If you are a gender bender or someone who loves them you should not be insulted when someone uses the wrong term. You should have the decency to say "trannies are hot." Everyone identifies differently and personally I think we should stop giving a rats ass about the way everyone wants to climb into a little box and feel offended if the rest of the world calls them something they don't like. I'm sure he meant no harm by using shemale. I have uses it and will use it again. I'm in a long term relationship with a transsexual woman. She does not hate her cock. It serves her well. Saying that all MTFs loathe their penis is ridiculous. You can not make a blanket statement like that about an entire group of people. I understand that forums are used to bully and slander others but I think this guy was actually trying to get some information about submitting to a MTF. I'm sure he wasn't looking to be harassed for his desire or his lack of proper semantics.

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RE: Shemales - 5/16/2008 9:46:36 AM   
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I SAID MOST AND NOT ALL..

I SAID MOST AND NOT ALL...





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RE: Shemales - 5/16/2008 9:48:33 AM   
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I SAID MOST AND NOT ALL..

I SAID MOST AND NOT ALL...





I'm sorry?......did you say something like most all?..... (sorry i just couldn't resist, but you know i'm j/k)


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RE: Shemales - 5/16/2008 9:56:31 AM   
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quote:

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I SAID MOST AND NOT ALL..

I SAID MOST AND NOT ALL...





I'm sorry?......did you say something like most all?..... (sorry i just couldn't resist, but you know i'm j/k)



i said nothing..im innocent....now bend over for your spanking





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RE: Shemales - 5/16/2008 10:07:04 AM   
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WidowCentauri:

To be perfectly blunt here, realize that not all who gender bend have the same mindset. Granted some have no issue with being called a shemale and others find it highly offensive: some gay males accept the term fags and others will find that highly offensive. If a person is unsure on how to correctly use a pronoun in reference to a fag/queer/TG/TV etc, then why the hell not ask them politely with respect? It only makes common sense to do so and not offend that person and avoids all this needless bullshit over what is right or wrong. Better yet, just see them solely as a person and as a human being, not but what they may or may not have between their legs.

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RE: Shemales - 5/16/2008 10:07:21 AM   
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i said nothing..im innocent....now bend over for your spanking





Hmmmm how good are your arm muscles?.....



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RE: Shemales - 5/16/2008 10:15:53 AM   
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muscles? me? i have no testosterone ...i was born this way...so i havent been able to create muscle at all...any place.  but i have willow power... (formely known as will power)

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RE: Shemales - 5/16/2008 11:45:56 AM   
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I don't think anyone said transgendered folk weren't hot....   And hey!  I will be honest and say that the notion of a fabulous rack AND a fabulous unit on the same body is one awesome fantasy.   Huzzah for comic books!

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RE: Shemales - 5/16/2008 12:10:36 PM   
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to the OP good luck in finding your MtF Mistress ^.^, the reason i don't like shemale trannie or any of that stuff is because i truly wish that i can be known as a woman and not any of the other stuff. Some trans people are proud of being trans while me myself i just wish i could have been born a woman and if not that then have Ranma 1/2's curse....cold water turn you into a woman hot water into a man....i'd never take a hot shower again and if i did i'd finish up with a cold sprit of water.  But good luck in finding a dominant MTF.....before i found my Mistress i was looking for a dominant MTF or a FTM....which are really rare on this site...(wishes that CM had a more indepth gender selection on here, kinda like M, F, FTM, MTF,)

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RE: Shemales - 5/16/2008 1:00:12 PM   
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I'd like to say thanks to (almost) everyone who posted here.  If there were a "Thread Hall of Fame," I would nominate this one, for being one of the most informative I've ever seen.

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RE: Shemales - 5/16/2008 1:09:50 PM   
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butch-femme.com for your ftm-butch dom's.

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RE: Shemales - 5/16/2008 3:29:06 PM   
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I'm gonna defend this guy. Trannies are hot. If you are a gender bender or someone who loves them you should not be insulted when someone uses the wrong term. You should have the decency to say "trannies are hot." Everyone identifies differently and personally I think we should stop giving a rats ass about the way everyone wants to climb into a little box and feel offended if the rest of the world calls them something they don't like. I'm sure he meant no harm by using shemale. I have uses it and will use it again. I'm in a long term relationship with a transsexual woman. She does not hate her cock. It serves her well. Saying that all MTFs loathe their penis is ridiculous. You can not make a blanket statement like that about an entire group of people. I understand that forums are used to bully and slander others but I think this guy was actually trying to get some information about submitting to a MTF. I'm sure he wasn't looking to be harassed for his desire or his lack of proper semantics.

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I'm sorry but I take the term 'trannie' as slander, so go work it out.

I'm just getting into a relationship with a natural born female who doesn't see me as a 'trannie' but the same as she is - female.

It's a lesbian relationship just like any other.

I don't see any debate here, there's no arguments and no opinions to attack or defend. Just people, individuals, and no matter what you think, what your perspective is, or whatever they have the right to be addressed and treated as THEY wish, not as YOU wish. Like it or not, this is something which is beyond discussion.

If a woman has a double mastectomy she doesn't cease to be a female. If she has a hysterectomy she doesn't cease to be a female. And I'm very sorry, but having a dick instead of a pussy doesn't prevent you from being a female either. Who you are inside, that makes you a female (or male), nothing else matters.

Many (not all, many) feel that terms such as 'she-male', 'trannie' - terms which they hear during verbal attacks - are derogatory and slanderous, which they are because they dehumanize the person.

So using the same logic of your argument I could walk up to you and call you a bitch, slapper or ho, right? And you wouldn't be offended?

Many of these people feel excluded because usually they are excluded from many things people take for granted, or if they aren't, it comes with great difficulty and a great struggle. Why emphasize their differences and choose to stigmatize or label them?

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RE: Shemales - 5/16/2008 4:40:30 PM   
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While the thread has been very inforamtive, and I certainly thank those who have shared their thoughts, I do have one question.....

Can we just ask the OP to start a run of the mill cocksucking thread?


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RE: Shemales - 5/16/2008 5:50:35 PM   
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LadyPact...would that also include who swallows or not, techniques, who does it better?  LOL. Just asking with a grin!

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RE: Shemales - 5/16/2008 6:20:17 PM   
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Absolutely!

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RE: Shemales - 5/16/2008 9:22:53 PM   
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i don't like the term "trannie" cause i still can't figure out what part of the underside/inside of the car that is...fuck me running backwards i am useless when it comes to anything more than fluid exchange on a car...(if my peanut gallery was around, i could just hear the comments on that statement)

*my disclaimer: if you find what i have to say offensive, look in a mirror before you attack me, because i am only relating my experiences, and they are not in anyway meant to be a standard or general statement*

i have met a few women who identified as shemales, from their mouths, not mine...but it wasn't on the first meeting, no, "hi my name's Mary and i'm a shemale"...no, it was after getting to know them...their thing was they had breast implants, facial reconstruction, and they were done...they had no desire to have gender reassignment surgery...i guess that is the benefits (?) of paying for surgeries out of pockets...
i have also known preop transexuals, postop transexuals, crossdressers, transvestites, MtF and MtF, gender fluid people, and one or two who identified as gender fucked...
and who are any of you, who have fought so hard to be allowed the freedom just to be you, to deny that there are those people out there that embrace those words that you dislike that allow them to be them...and my friends in the past had no problem with me or anyone else calling them shemales as long as it wasn't with a tone of disgust in my voice, or like i was superior, just like my black friends in the past had no problem with me calling them "my nigga" as long as it was just a term of endearment and not a put down...
and as i mentioned it in another post, i have to go call my self contained forest fire in florida...
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RE: Shemales - 5/17/2008 5:24:51 AM   
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Are you sure that these few are just using the term "shemale" purely as shoch value?  As most are fighting to be recognized purely as eithr male or female depending if they are MTF or FTM.

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RE: Shemales - 5/17/2008 7:43:19 AM   
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and who are any of you, who have fought so hard to be allowed the freedom just to be you, to deny that there are those people out there that embrace those words that you dislike that allow them to be them


because these labels they put on themselves continue to CONFUSE society for the rest of us.  oh so your such and such...when in reality i am something else entirely and i have to continuosly explain the many differences.  people need to be educated properly on who is who and what is what.  identity is one thing but if you identify as something your not...that confuses society.

transsexual=not a shemale (there is a profile here that uses both these terms and you can not be both! - i am a transsexual shemale...uh..yep ok)
crossdresser=not a transsexual
intersexed=not transsexual

so on and so forth...


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RE: Shemales - 5/17/2008 1:42:22 PM   
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and this why those of who don't identify with just one gender feel like we're such freaks...at least if you identify with just one gender, even if it's not the one your born with, you can have surgery to reasign your outsides...there is no surgery that i can have to push a button to flip me from female to male and back again when i switch genders on the inside...yea....you're not the only one who is missunderstood...but i had to go looking for politically correct terms for someone else to find out there were even other people like me...and there aren't that many....

chelle...who sometimes looks down is shocked to find breasts and no penis...and then it changes and i am female inside again and it's all good...where's the surgery for that?


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