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RE: Shemales - 5/17/2008 1:52:56 PM   
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Something that's been overlooked in mention here, too, I believe is that many of those such as the OP desires are MEN.  Not mtf transsexuals, not transgendered in any way, but MALE-MEN.

OP, a lot of what yo and other folks are fantasizing as "chicks with dicks" (ugh) are MEN WITH IMPLANTS.  Some are transsexed, but many are males who identify as men who have pursued breast augmentation for circus/porn endeavours, body mod interests, gender-fuck interests, etc. 

As already gone over and over, in real(non-porn)life women often want nothing to do with male-on-male sex with the organs they were stuck with at birth and/or it ceases to fully function after a point in hormone therapy.  You're more likely to find a gay or bisexual male who has body-modded for some reason or other... and then just face it, you want to have sex with a man who has had breast implants/cross-dresses; not with a woman who just happens to have a penis.

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RE: Shemales - 5/20/2008 11:48:02 AM   
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his is a question to anyone with experience with Shemales. I always been a great fan being fucked using strapons and having other objects inserted inside me; I have also been interested in being used as a cuckold, however sucking another man’s penis has never been much of a thrill unless I am forced to do it with my Mistress watching me being humiliated.

As I do like to suck dildo’s, I have now come to the decision that I also want the craving of a real cock, but I am not going into the male dominant side, but want to remain at the feet of a Mistress. I am therefore considering Shemales.

I just wanted to hear the views of others who have served with Shemales. What is the experience like, I am quite interested in that side now.


born4,

shemales do exist as with nature sometimes will ocur a fem is born with a cock appearing appendage. Call it a an enlarged clit and as noted in the thread, the mindset is all fem but they do have this "secret to deal with.

There are folks that pay no attention to the fact that their fem is a "shemale" by nature.

CP

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RE: Shemales - 5/20/2008 11:49:52 AM   
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RP. are females with implants woman wannabes also?

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RE: Shemales - 5/28/2008 6:51:20 PM   
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A principle I  choose to live by

"There are no bad or wrong words, it is the intention of the person using a word that determines its quality."

If someone is hurt by words spoken by another, when the speakers intention was only positive, then the offended person would benefit by taking a moment for introspection and realize the humanity of the other includes differentiation. If we seek tolerance, we must also be generous in giving it.

To assume that everyone you encounter will have the same awareness as you on any one issue is foolish. To take offense so easily with a person of good intent is a recipe for loneliness.  Smile, you've just been given an opportunity to give them a gift, information! Let them know how and why their choice of words is hurtful to some. They will be glad you did without making them feel bad for being unaware.    IMHO


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RE: Shemales - 5/28/2008 7:14:07 PM   
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There are no bad or wrong words, it is the intention of the person using a word that determines its quality."

If someone is hurt by words spoken by another, when the speakers intention was only positive, then the offended person would benefit by taking a moment for introspection and realize the humanity of the other includes differentiation. If we seek tolerance, we must also be generous in giving it.


awesomeness!

also great thread.... too bad fairys link did not work for me...did it work for any one else?


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RE: Shemales - 5/28/2008 10:01:50 PM   
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My thought goes something like this,thank god that theres a few with eyes wide open,who see the leaves before the trees and can understand the importance of the little things and how they affect whole.To many don't really know themselves before making jugdement and commenting about others.

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RE: Shemales - 5/29/2008 12:57:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: justheather


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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

I am flaming his apparent objectification and fetishizing Bounty...
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Wait a minute.
People are no longer permitted to fetishize and objectify on a BDSM/fetish website?

I rarely say this, but

What the fuck?



Here, Here! you beat me to the punch! Objectification is often peoples fantasy in the lifestyle when you boil it right down the the nitty gritty!
so in the words of justheather, WHAT THE FUCK!

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RE: Shemales - 5/29/2008 6:23:19 AM   
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I'm gonna defend this guy. Trannies are hot. If you are a gender bender or someone who loves them you should not be insulted when someone uses the wrong term. You should have the decency to say "trannies are hot." Everyone identifies differently and personally I think we should stop giving a rats ass about the way everyone wants to climb into a little box and feel offended if the rest of the world calls them something they don't like. I'm sure he meant no harm by using shemale. I have uses it and will use it again. I'm in a long term relationship with a transsexual woman. She does not hate her cock. It serves her well. Saying that all MTFs loathe their penis is ridiculous. You can not make a blanket statement like that about an entire group of people. I understand that forums are used to bully and slander others but I think this guy was actually trying to get some information about submitting to a MTF. I'm sure he wasn't looking to be harassed for his desire or his lack of proper semantics.

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Amen.

I've been reading, and there are some amazing points here about words that cause distress... but damn.  Look, the original poster just wanted to find someone who had characteristics of both genders as a play partner.  And y'all ripped him a new one because of the word he used.  Someone should pull the stick out of your ass and beat you with it.  I know that it is really difficult emotionally and physically to deal with any kind of gender transition.  I've loved and dated some amazing people who did some serious soul searching on what they wanted and needed.  Who faced physical alterations, counseling and a serious identity transition to make the outside match the inside.  They were still fun to fuck.

And before you rip me a new one, they were fun for a lot of non-sexual things too, and I'm still friends with several, including one whose has gone from dating women to dating men exclusively.  These, um, humans, is that word acceptable? are out there.  Some even enjoy new experiences and pleasure instead of bemoaning the state of their existence.

As to the posters who say hormones cause loss of sexual function... that has not been my experience.... sometimes you just have to suck harder to make things work.  That's not a bad thing.

Alison

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RE: Shemales - 5/29/2008 6:34:46 AM   
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I understand where the OP is coming from being a fan of strap-ons too.  I have no desire whatsoever to be with a man but the idea of being with a fully functional pre-op transsexual is very intriguing.  Unfortunately there just doesn't seem to be that many that are dominant and definitely not that many living in the south.  And as far as tsseduction.com goes my two favs are  Danielle Foxx and Jesse.


The reason you cant find them, is that the very idea of using "that thing" or having it used, even having attention drawn to it, even others being aware of its existence, is repugnant to TS females! Thats why you have to pay to see TS porn - no one would want anything to do with it, but its money at the end of the day.

I'd also question what you mean by "fully functional"? You mean capable of erection, capable of ejaculation, or both? Problem is, if youre TS and still afflicted, you do what you can to avoid either by recourse to anti androgen hormonal treatments (like those used for enlarged prostate) - which means little if any erection and no ejaculation.

Sounds to me like what youre all really looking for is a crossdresser who passes well for female, not a TS, and youre only looking for a TS because its slightly less shameful for you as she's "nearly a woman".

E

Lady Ellen,

For many TSes: they do not feel repugnant about 'that part' of their anatomy. I have a friend who thinks and feels like a woman, has breasts now, has taken hormones for years, and loves having 'that part'. This person gets laid more than most people I know and has it all going on. They are happy and I am happy for them.

Whatever someone 'needs' or whatever their kink is,  more power to them.

Personally and imo: A woman with a cock is a fun person to be around!



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RE: Shemales - 5/29/2008 8:28:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: androsub

A principle I  choose to live by

"There are no bad or wrong words, it is the intention of the person using a word that determines its quality."

If someone is hurt by words spoken by another, when the speakers intention was only positive, then the offended person would benefit by taking a moment for introspection and realize the humanity of the other includes differentiation. If we seek tolerance, we must also be generous in giving it.

To assume that everyone you encounter will have the same awareness as you on any one issue is foolish. To take offense so easily with a person of good intent is a recipe for loneliness.  Smile, you've just been given an opportunity to give them a gift, information! Let them know how and why their choice of words is hurtful to some. They will be glad you did without making them feel bad for being unaware.    IMHO



Beautifully and perfectly said.

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RE: Shemales - 5/29/2008 9:57:10 AM   
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I'd like to remind you that not only men are transgendered.  Those of us who have vaginas but feel we were meant to be male might just be what you're looking for.  It particularly spoke to me that you enjoy sucking dildos.  There is a distinct difference between a Mistress who enjoys wearing a dildo and a Master who sees it as the embodiment of what he should have. 

Both sides of the transgendered spectrum would be fun to explore for you, I think.  Just wanted to pop in and say to keep your options open.

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RE: Shemales - 5/29/2008 11:02:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: androsub

A principle I  choose to live by

"There are no bad or wrong words, it is the intention of the person using a word that determines its quality."

If someone is hurt by words spoken by another, when the speakers intention was only positive, then the offended person would benefit by taking a moment for introspection and realize the humanity of the other includes differentiation. If we seek tolerance, we must also be generous in giving it.

To assume that everyone you encounter will have the same awareness as you on any one issue is foolish. To take offense so easily with a person of good intent is a recipe for loneliness.  Smile, you've just been given an opportunity to give them a gift, information! Let them know how and why their choice of words is hurtful to some. They will be glad you did without making them feel bad for being unaware.    IMHO




Well said.  

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RE: Shemales - 5/29/2008 2:08:12 PM   
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A note of thanks to those who took the time to appreciate my words. I am humbled that my post was even noticed, let alone found to be praiseworthy. Thank you all for the smile on my face.


An additional thought that often applies where disagreement exists. I wish I remembered the author to give credit where due but have forgotten the source many years ago. It's beauty lies in its ultimate and very logical  truth. I think the originator must be someone very pleasant to know.

"Hate is the absence of knowledge"

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RE: Shemales - 5/30/2008 4:09:25 AM   
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This is a question to anyone with experience with Half Castes. I always been a great fan being fucked by white guys ; 
I have now come to the decision that I also want the craving of a Black cock, but I am not going into the race play side, but want to remain at the feet of a white guy. I am therefore considering Half Castes.

I just wanted to hear the views of others who have served with Half Castes. What is the experience like, I am quite interested in that side now.  



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RE: Shemales - 5/30/2008 4:50:37 AM   
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Text goes here.



Damn, back on the soap box. We get it, you think the term "shemale" is offensive. You've made it quite clear for over five pages now.

But just as much as you dislike the term, others don't mind. The poor OP hasn't even been back to this thread for pages now. He only wanted something simple, he wasn't trying to insult anyone and everything got blown up into drama.

I agree with androsub
, a word is a word; it only becomes offensive if you let it. The OP wasn't trying to insult anyone and I don't think anyone has done that either in this thread.

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RE: Shemales - 5/30/2008 5:01:07 AM   
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The OP apologised and I accepted his apology, because he knew no better. Its not the OP I'm posting for any longer.

And plenty enough TS females posted that the term is offensive. Seems to me that the confusion refuses to dissipate between what the OP wanted, and us. Nothing knew, perhaps.

How about "raghead"? Is that offensive, or only offensive if a Muslim takes it to be so, and its his problem if he finds it offensive?

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RE: Shemales - 5/30/2008 5:07:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BOUNTYHUNTER

Back alley or not,Diane and I have been searching for that special "girl"..I think most fail to understand the term,most use she male to denote the difference between a tgirl...Since tgirls are some times just CDS,and a she male has full breast and can pass quiet well..So send us that special she male if you would...Small frame, nice tits and "her' own long hair..evil grins...bounty
I have a French porn flick from I'd guess around 90 or so which features an extremely anally-oriented "He/she or Shemale".
Shorter hair, though.

Well, what can I say? I'm not only a perv, but I try to see the person under the paraphenalia.

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RE: Shemales - 5/30/2008 5:11:54 AM   
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This has been an interesting thread to follow. i am one of those persons who fill the physical criteria of people concidered as she-male. i don't identify as one, or as a trans-person so i usually just use the term transgendered when talking about myself. But sometimes, just to get people understand what it is i exactly am, i say that "in porn industry this term is used when referring to people like me." Usually people get some sort of mental picture out of that description.:) And yes, i am very happy being the way i am too.

i also liked very much what androsub among others said. People tend to get too caught up with PC terms and all that when in the end what matters the most are intentions. i pesonally can't claim to understand everything in this world and eventhough i work on social sector, i still sometimes find myself very ignorant on matters dealing our own client groups. i want to hope that what counts is that W/we as people try to understand each other and keep O/our minds open and listen. Listening might be the hardest part.

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RE: Shemales - 5/30/2008 5:15:30 AM   
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What in the world do you mean by SheMale????


Fully functional hemaphrodite perhaps?


does not exist either.  and its hermaphrodite (you forgot the r).  hermaphrodite is also now called intersexed.  as there are many different forms and every form has some sort of deformaty among them to not allow for full functionality..if any functionality at all.

hermaphrodite IS NOT A SHEMALE.  god damn ignorants.  intersexed are born biologically female and biologically male with atleast both genitalia.  shemale is created and artificial.

A couple months ago, after you had used the word "intersexed" in a post, I went and did some reading on said topic.

It just amazes me, the range of expression that human DNA has. In an enlightened country/era, such differences would be, maybe not exactly celebrated, but lovingly accepted.

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RE: Shemales - 5/30/2008 5:20:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

as i said..it depends on the hormones they are taking.  it can take longer to have effect.  but once on hrt it isnt possible to be FULLY functional.  the loss of sex drive kicks in within a few weeks.  especially once breast growth starts and emotions kick in.  if they take spironolactone and premarin it can take longer time for effect.  if they take androcur, it is almost instant with the effect and completely rids sex drive and functionality and sperm.

if the transsexual is not repulsed by their penis.  then they are not transsexuals and should not be transitioning.  these types of transsexuals tend to commit suicde.  as many transsexuals have a problem distinguishing gender from sexuality.  not realizing that gender and sexuality have no relation to one another.  which is why transsexuals must see psychiatrists.


Fuck, most straights should see Psychiatrists.

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