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RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. - 6/19/2008 8:57:36 PM

chickpea

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Let's see...
I need a:
pickup truck (beat-up and rusted): $500
insurance for pickup truck monthly: $50
air bed for pickup truck: $50
binoculars: $50
loon whistle: $20
rifle: $200
25 grams marajuana the best stuff: $2,500
doctor's appointment and perscription for marajuana: $120
3,000 miles of gas: $1,000
AAA platinum membership: $80
portable DVD player: $50
10 DVDs: $50
Satellite Laptop: $2,300
Solar power supply: $1,500
Butane Lamp: $45
5 Canisters of Butane: $50
Big Trip to Costco (12 pack of canned chilli, 12 pack Perrier water, 6 pack of evian water, Giant bag of chicken, One big onion, 3 lettuces, pack of burger buns, pack of beef patties, Giant cooler, Giant pack of ice, ): $900
Costco membership: $65
Giant sleeping Bag rated to -0 degrees: $120
Nice big wool blanket: $80
Nice fluffy pillow, prefer one with duck feathers and king size: $70
Trowel: $25
Biodegradeable Toilet Paper: $15
Biodegradeable Soap: $10
Blue flame torch lighter that's wind-proof: $120
Air Mattress rechargeable pump: $20
One nice big stoggie: $10

(Just one cross country trip from California to upstate New York for loon hunting the old fashioned way at the first week of the first month of subery)

Taking a look at your new master's face: PRICELESS :)

And for those tops who's jaws just dropped to the floor

That's why they call it Mastercard ;-)

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RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. - 6/19/2008 9:02:29 PM

TreasureKY

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quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation

Hair cut, colour and style = approx £80 / $157.89
Nail Extensions = £25 / $49.34
Waxing (full body) = £35 / $69.09
Clothing / footwear = £300 / $592.15
Books = £15 / $29.60
Food = £150 / $296.01
Cigarettes = £35 / $69.09
Total = £640 / $1263.17

Above is what it costs me to keep me for a month approximately.

Wow... and I worried about being a burden to Firm. I guess I'm a pretty cheap sub.

Hair cut, colour and style = I cut and color my own... about $8 a month for the color.

Nail Extensions = My natural nails are long (most of the time) and I do my own manicures... the cost is negligible as I rarely use polish and all the tools are paid for. For the sake of giving a figure, I'll say 25 cents per month... but even that is a huge over-estimate.

Waxing (full body) = After an investment in laser, waxing is no longer necessary.

Clothing / footwear = lol... I have a closet full of clothes and shoes that hardly get worn as it is. I've also 35+ years of experience sewing so I'm perfectly capable of making my own clothes when needed. If I had to guess, I'd say over a year's time I spend the average of maybe $25 per month.

Books = I have a library of literally tens of thousands of electronic books at my disposal, and I received a beautiful new Palm for my birthday from Firm on which to read them. ;) Cost each month to occasionally recharge my Palm... maybe 25 cents.

Food = Of course I spend more now that I'm cooking for Firm, too, but when I was on my own I'd say I probably spent $75 a week on groceries... and that included staples such as soap, shampoo, bathroom tissue, etc. So, I'll say $300 per month.

Total = $333.50

lol... I bet he wishes those were the only expenses involved with keeping me.

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RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. - 6/20/2008 3:13:20 AM

missturbation

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Leatherist

Scottish to the bone-it's in the blood. I pinch pennies until they bleed.

Luxuries are not a part of my world.

And I am always cynical about people who claim to need needless things-from others.

For me personally they are not luxuries. They are what i NEED to do to look the way He wants me to look. I don't particularly like having nail extensions, they make my job harder. Changing barrels, gas and lugging crates with them on is a nightmare. I certainly would not have my hair cut and coloured every six weeks but He wishes me to so i do.
These things you claim are needless and that i am trying to claim from others are actually paid for by me and i do not plan on changing that any time in the future.
Having said that i totally agree with you that if the situation was different and i was trying to get someone to fund my 'high maintenance' lifestyle then cynicism would definately have a place.

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RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. - 6/20/2008 6:21:52 AM

Mercnbeth

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quote:

25 grams marajuana the best stuff: $2,500

unless it is encrusted with gold, you are paying WAY too much...

EDITED TO ADD:

Words from a jaded beth and her legal (at least in some states) co-op pharmacies.

To the OP's thesis; anyone keeping tabs and trying to keep it a zero sum game should not consider the "keep" or being 'kept'. Of all the potential social constructs between people, a Master/slave relationship is one, perhaps the only one, where a socialist approach is not only ideal, but provides the best path for success. The "keep" isn't pointed to one individual. If it is, that's really not serving now is it? The "keep" becomes a payment for services rendered, and implies if the keep is removed the service passes quickly with it.

Some have already said that their partner is "priceless". Not true, I'll tell you what, if cost was the only consideration, just about everything provided by beth I can get someplace from someone else for a price. On the other side of the equation, beth's monetary contribution may be nil, but without her I'd have nothing. There is no doubt that everything I have, we have, is due to her. There is no doubt that anything I have is because 'Merc & beth' replaced Merc as a focus. What Merc does can be replaced, what beth does can be replaced. "Priceless" came into play only when those two, nearly worthless, parts stumbled across each other over the vast wasteland of BDSM internet dating.

Merc is more than a provider of "keep" and beth is more than a provider for services who, like any individual requires things to survive. she is also (cover your ears to hear 'lifestyle' heresy) a partner in the relationship. An equal partner, proved by the fact that if she was taken away from the other side of our relationship scale my side would drop like a stone.

< Message edited by Mercnbeth -- 6/20/2008 6:53:23 AM >

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RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. - 6/20/2008 6:31:12 AM

Deliena

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

quote:

25 grams marajuana the best stuff: $2,500

unless it is encrusted with gold, you are paying WAY too much...

I am *so* glad someone else spotted that!!

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RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. - 6/20/2008 6:49:40 AM

LaTigresse

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That is kinda what I was thinking myself.

And MissT..........dayum woman!!

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RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. - 6/20/2008 6:52:08 AM

HalloweenWhite

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For Me, owning a 24/7 live in submissive or slave is what I want most out of this life. But I'm not as stupid as I look, I worked out a long time ago how hard it'd be, for one thing You have to have a home that a submissive or slave would be happy to live-it has to be warm, nice to look at, clean, neat and tidy and have a constantly available supply of hot and cold water and food.

There are her "maintainace" costs-food, clothing, transport, health care issues. What about if I'm not in and she's done all the things I've given her to do-how would she entertain herself?, the answer is she needs to be in a fun environment either,somewhere she can go out and do something, or have things to keep her happy at home.

If My life stays the mess it's in right now it'll never happen lol.

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RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. - 6/20/2008 7:04:47 AM

Deliena

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I must be a terrible sub! I pay for all of my own maintenance and would not consider not working outside of the home unless it was because I had the financial security not to have to. (Just in case of death/relationship breakdown etc. - I have a dependant daughter and could not put her in the position of being financially unstable it would be unacceptable to me as a parent).

I don't have nice nails, I colour and cut (or don't bother cutting more often) my own hair, I own clothes I've had for around 10 years (not all of which still fit as well as they did when I bought them LOL) and rarely buy new ones, when my Master and I buy new equipment/toys I always go halves with him and sometimes I treat him to new items (although I'm regretting buying him a new riding crop it hurts like a bastard!)

Although the fantasy of being kept and being able to spend my time servicing his needs and making sure I was presentable in his opinion etc. has some appeal and the 24/7 slave girl game is something we play when we are able to (when my daughter is being looked after by her father for example) and the headspace I am in at the time is awesome I just can't see it being something I really could do 24/7. But as always - other people's mileage and preferences vary.

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RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. - 6/20/2008 7:19:54 AM

HalloweenWhite

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Can't argue with anything you've said so I wont lol. You're absolutely right about the need for any children to be totally safe,happy,secure,well, comfortable etc. Children are the most important things and I'd never consider compromising their physical or emotional health, I was thinking in terms of a submissive or slave without children, if they had children though. comfort, a safe environment, warmth, etc. would be even more important I think.

As far as you supporting yourself, I don't have a problem with a submissive or slave who wants to support themselves, in fact I'd encourage it and help in any way I could to make it happen, I was just thinking in terms of how hard it'd be to be the one doing the supporting.

But I might try to buy you some new clothes once in a while ;).

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RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. - 6/20/2008 7:38:38 AM

Deliena

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quote:

ORIGINAL: HalloweenWhite
But I might try to buy you some new clothes once in a while ;).

Aww bless ya! Actually Master has bought me two outfits and I did buy some underwear (at less than half of it's original price) specifically for him the other day as I knew he'd love me in it, so I have got some current clothing - but I have just checked in the last year I've only purchased 1 hooded top, 2 pairs of work trousers and 1 pair of shoes brand-new, the rest is either second-hand or has come from someone else who no longer wanted it or changed their mind after purchasing it. I have also co-opted some of Master's clothes as it's a nice way to be close to him when I can't be close to him.

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RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. - 6/20/2008 9:11:53 AM

everhope

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i had a rather large debt due to life circumstance and not frivilous spending. i felt it my responsibility to get that debt paid off before i could consider myself available for ownership. i worked for 2 years non-stop double nursing shifts and sometimes private nursing jobs to pay that debt off. it is now paid in full.

my current monthly monetary needs are about $1200 a month. this includes rent, utilities, transportation and incidentals. keep in mind i live in one of the most expensive county's in the US, Orange County. so i am doing really well on keeping costs down. it is not my nature to need the latest greatest in anything. i am more inclined towards practicalities with occasional over the top luxuries. (5 star hotels, room service, exquiste meals, spa treaments, that just have to have piece of clothing.) i pay for that now on my own and it is not something i would expect if owned. it really does not matter that much to me just things i like.

if it were in my future to be owned and his preference were that i don't work outside of the home, the month to month maintance for this slave would be determined by Master. however, i do have 2 requests that i would like seriously considered. health insurance and to be allowed to dye my hair. since, i have learned to do it myself, the cost is about $5.95 per month.

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The goal isn't to live forever.
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RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. - 6/20/2008 9:27:02 AM

pinksugarsub

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quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation

Hair cut, colour and style = approx £80 / $157.89
Nail Extensions = £25 / $49.34
Waxing (full body) = £35 / $69.09
Clothing / footwear = £300 / $592.15
Books = £15 / $29.60
Food = £150 / $296.01
Cigarettes = £35 / $69.09
Total = £640 / $1263.17

Above is what it costs me to keep me for a month approximately. I haven't included rent / mortgage as i don't pay to live where i do. Accomodation is included with my job. I haven't included medical costs as in the Uk we have the national health service, but i know in USA it is privately paid for. I've probably also missed some pretty basic stuff off, but you get the gist.
Now if i was to give up my work etc for a Dom / Domme and be totally dependent on him / her it would be on the basis that i still am provided for in the style i provide for myself. I will say at this point that i do not think, im 99% certain that i could never give my career up and be dependent on someone else. Im far too independent for that. Would my provisal be unreasonable? I don't think so but i'm sure there are others here who would disagree.
Anyway i'm just wondering (and im pretty sure this has been asked before), how on earth do people fund others lives? If you are extremely rich or well paid i can see it, but what about those in normal every day jobs who aren't so well off?
So for those who do it, how do you support yourself and your subs /slaves?
Would you do it? If so why? If not why not?
Has it ever got you into debt?
Are you in debt because of it?

Hi, missturbation. Hope yr having a good day.

i wrote an Op some time ago that touches on the subject of yr Op.

Here's the link:

http://www.collarchat.com/m_191964/mpage_1/key_Planning/tm.htm#191964

Hope it is of some use; lemme know if you feel anything in the link should be the subject of a separate Op & i'll try and get to it.

Best wishes.

pinksugarsub

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RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. - 6/20/2008 10:28:55 AM

CalifChick

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

An equal partner, proved by the fact that if she was taken away from the other side of our relationship scale my side would drop like a stone.

Sometimes Merc, you just make peeps want to grab you up and hug you like a big ol' soft teddy bear and go "awwwwwwwwwwww".

Cali

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RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. - 6/20/2008 10:42:48 AM

mypet37

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humm.. i do not live with Master... not a choice in our worlds.. his cost for me? hum... not much.. i take care of myself. - He would tho.

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RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. - 6/20/2008 10:48:00 AM

Mercnbeth

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quote:

ORIGINAL: CalifChick

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

An equal partner, proved by the fact that if she was taken away from the other side of our relationship scale my side would drop like a stone.

Sometimes Merc, you just make peeps want to grab you up and hug you like a big ol' soft teddy bear and go "awwwwwwwwwwww".

Cali

Thanks Cali, stating the obvious and the true has always been a trait of mine.

Truth is I only had time to post to one more thread this morning before going to the office today. It was only because of beth's posting that I decided on this one. I assure you if I went to my original choice, the 'Tit slapping' thread, "ol'" and "bear" may have worked, but not "soft". In fact I think they'll be some of this

occurring at our place tonight!

However, considering your title "Goddess of Sarcasm" I'm not really sure how should I take your comments?!

btw - Is getting that special title that something akin to having personalized license plates - you have to pay a larger registration fee or something?

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RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. - 6/20/2008 11:01:33 AM

Deliena

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I'd have said "most of the time" rather than the "sometimes" Cali chose LOL. As beth says, she's a lucky slave!

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RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. - 6/20/2008 11:20:47 AM

CalifChick

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I was being quite serious. The sarcasm is usually accompanied by me chastising peeps for being mean to the clue-free people.

I don't know if it's a secret or not, but I paid ten times the registration fee that you did.

Cali

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RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. - 6/20/2008 1:28:45 PM

Stephann

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quote:

ORIGINAL: chickpea

Let's see...
I need a:
pickup truck (beat-up and rusted): $500
insurance for pickup truck monthly: $50
air bed for pickup truck: $50
binoculars: $50
loon whistle: $20
rifle: $200
25 grams marajuana the best stuff: $2,500
doctor's appointment and perscription for marajuana: $120
3,000 miles of gas: $1,000
...............................................(snipped)

Oddly, I've found the more a woman seems to think she needs, the less she actually needs.

Stephan

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RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. - 6/20/2008 1:33:18 PM

ThundersCry

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Thats it?

Well...<erases some of the post>

Wait...a GAG....you forgot what a GAG would cost....

But for a lady like you? Only the best gag would suffice...

<adds in another 400 bones>

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RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. - 6/20/2008 1:41:36 PM

Deliena

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You mean you don't want to hear Cali's screams?

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