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jlf1961 -> RE: A Little Too Much Multiculturalism (7/11/2008 7:25:08 PM)
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If I may interject, attacking someone purely because of faith is considered to be a non-arguement in most debates.
Especially in an arguement where faith is not the issue.
In recent years, especially after 9/11 the over generalized statements concerning the Islamic faith has bordered on half truths and out right lies, and all due to a misunderstanding of most western people on just what the faith stands for.
Islam is no more a faith of murder, war, and killing of non-believers as Christianity. In point of fact, since Emperor Constantine the Christian faith has been guilty of more atrocities and discrimination than any other faith on the planet.
How many people know that for almost 1200 years Jews were not allowed to own land in most Christian countries? That more Jews were victims of the inquisition than any other faith? Or how many people know that during the sack of Jerusalem when the crusaders took the city, the streets were said to run knee deep in blood as the 'Christian' defenders of the faith murdered, raped and pillaged the entire city putting every citizen of the city to the sword, every man woman and child, Christian, Jew and Muslim?
How many knew that the Muslim rulers of the Holy Land guaranteed safe passage of Christian pilgrims to and from the sacred places in the holy land BEFORE and AFTER the crusades? Jews had more rights and protection under Muslim rule than in the Christian world. Poor Christians had more rights and protections under Muslim rule than in Europe!
It was a Christian who came up with the phrase, "Kill them all, god will sort them out."
The Islamic faith is the ONLY religion to set specific rules for warfare in holy text. How about the simple fact that the mainstream followers of Islam, Sunni and Shiite all believe that Islamic Extremists and terrorists have perverted the faith and will NOT make it to Paradise.
Wouldn't you like to see the look of some suicide bomber when they open their eyes and find they are NOT in Heaven?
How about the simple fact that under Christian doctrine, as preached by Jesus Christ, there is NO justifiable reason to take a human life. The old testament passage "a time for war and a time for peace," was placed in the 'not any more,' pile of dos and dont's.
Jesus never said, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, unless they are different in faith, skin color, or place of birth."
Jesus said, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
There was also the commands, "Love thy brother," "turn the other cheek," and "Love thy enemies."
I will be the first to admit that I have not followed any of the instructions of Jesus perfectly, in fact, there are many times I have completely ignored them. There are times that I really want to pound some people into the ground. There have been many times when I let my fists do the talking.
That is something I have to answer for, no one else.
But, to condemn a religion that most Americans have no idea of the basic teachings, is the greatest and highest form of hypocrisy that can be made, simply because we have yet to live up to the teachings of our own faith.
Now, how bout we stop attacking each other, deal with the problems at hand, such as honor killings, and forget about our differences. There is one thing that we have all, repeat, ALL have agreed on, HONOR KILLINGS ARE WRONG.
Just as it is wrong to insult DA because he is a gung ho fighter jock that would probably be the first to abort an attack on a target that had no military value, ESPECIALLY if it was a Brewery, and would probably give a hungry kid the last bit of food he had.
Even DA has a heart and soul, and he, being human, has his faults.
But I would submit, that we all have our faults....
I could fill a whole thread with my faults. I could probably fill up the CM server harddrives with a list of my faults.
So, let me say this:
Everybody sit down, take a deep breath and figure out how in the hell we can stop these things!
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