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Do find intelligent women attractive ? - 7/18/2008 4:23:29 AM   
steviemichael


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Status: offline 		Do find intelligent women/men  attractive ?
or do you find it so much more easy to *control*  a man or woman who has no reason why they should do what you ask for them to do ?


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RE: Do find intelligent women attractive ? - 7/18/2008 5:07:32 AM   
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RE: Do find intelligent women attractive ? - 7/18/2008 5:31:25 AM   
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RE: Do find intelligent women attractive ? - 7/18/2008 6:25:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: steviemichael

Do find intelligent women/men  attractive ?
or do you find it so much more easy to *control*  a man or woman who has no reason why they should do what you ask for them to do ?



I've never been attracted to a woman that was not intelligent. I don't care how physically gorgeous they are, if when they open their mouth only stupid shit spews out, I lose interest immediately.

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RE: Do find intelligent women attractive ? - 7/18/2008 6:31:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		An attractive woman is attractive....regardless of her IQ...

Conversely....an unattractive woman with a high IQ is just a smart ugly woman.

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RE: Do find intelligent women attractive ? - 7/18/2008 6:33:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

I've never been attracted to a woman that was not intelligent. I don't care how physically gorgeous they are, if when they open their mouth only stupid shit spews out, I lose interest immediately.


The same is true for men.  I don't require a college education, but you can't fix stupid.  (You can't fix mean, either, but that's another topic.)  Beauty is readily available, and fades away.  Intelligence, and the ability to learn, are invaluable.



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RE: Do find intelligent women attractive ? - 7/18/2008 6:36:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: steviemichael

Do find intelligent women/men  attractive ?
or do you find it so much more easy to *control*  a man or woman who has no reason why they should do what you ask for them to do ?



I find it easier to control less intelligent people.  I also get less satisfaction from it. 

For me, there are two great pleasures of dominance, and "seeing my will be done" is not one.  If I wanted it done, I'd do it (save for felatio and scratching that one part in the center of my back). 

1) Seeing someone learn from me.  (Applied teaching).  An unintelligent person learns slowly, as such, I get my cookies slowerly. =)

2) A challenge of wits and understanding.  (Applied learning, which is really reverse applied teaching).  I like to be forced to think.  I get itchy if someone doesn't ask "Why?*" when I give them a reason. 
I LOOOOOOOVVVEEE When My Pet asks how things work, and later still has that information. 

* Important to note, there's a time and a place for "Why?"  It isn't when I give a command.  Commands are to be followed swiftly and accurately, later they can be discussed and scrutinized.

Editted to add:  I could never be with someone who doesn't understand the concept of "hypothetical".

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RE: Do find intelligent women attractive ? - 7/18/2008 6:41:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		No offense to the OP, but I found the title misleading.  As a straight Dominant, I really don't find any women attractive.  I can appreciate their beauty, but that is a much different thing.

I've said this before on many threads.  It isn't the outer form that makes a person attractive to Me or not.  Sure, a pleasing physical shape helps, but that isn't the end of it.  Intelligence, sense of humor, humility, and compassion all play a role.  With that said, the two most attractive subs that I've ever had, I've found to be quite intelligent.


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RE: Do find intelligent women attractive ? - 7/18/2008 7:12:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

I've never been attracted to a woman that was not intelligent. I don't care how physically gorgeous they are, if when they open their mouth only stupid shit spews out, I lose interest immediately.


The same is true for men. I don't require a college education, but you can't fix stupid. (You can't fix mean, either, but that's another topic.) Beauty is readily available, and fades away. Intelligence, and the ability to learn, are invaluable.




I've had this experience a few times in my life.

See beautiful boy, approach beautiful boy, beautiful boy opens his mouth and proves he has very few brain cells.... suddenly he isn't beautiful any more.

While I'm not as attracted to women, I have also had a similar experience though there is is usually a hyper feminine attitude or feigned (goddess I hope it) stupidity makes me not even want to be the same sex so I guess my reaction is more extreme with women.

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RE: Do find intelligent women attractive ? - 7/18/2008 7:48:17 AM   
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Do find intelligent women/men  attractive ?


Is anyone going to say no to this question? Many people that claim to find intelligent women attractive are in fact afraid of intelligent women. These people do their best to put intelligent women "in their place." Many people have real problems with young intelligent women. I've found from personal experience that while almost 100% of the people will answer your question with a yes. The truth is a far lower percentage of people actually want someone smarter than they are as a partner.


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RE: Do find intelligent women attractive ? - 7/18/2008 8:16:42 AM   
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The truth is a far lower percentage of people actually want someone smarter than they are as a partner.



I snipped a bit. 

I've told this story ina  few posts now, and if it wasn't so powerful to me, I'd stop.

I recently took My Pet hiking, and out in the woods I had the advantage in every capacity.  When we got back to the city, she had regained some of her strengths over me.  I'm perfectly fine with her being better in some categories, but it was a fun retreat, being her superior in every way.  If she were less intelligent, I'd have that more often.  Too often. 

What you're talking about is easily applied to hookers.  Men who want simple women. (Not to say prostitutes are simple, but they usually stow their luggage when with a client.  One assumes.)  Now, this works for a casual encounter, or short relationship, but has problems in the long term.

30 years next to someone who is significantly less intelligent than you will make you "stupider".  All the lost debate and discourse, all the lost opportunity to learn trivia and science... 

Have I ever wanted a dumb chick?   Maybe... But it didn't last.

Luckily for everyone, what a 10 is to a 9 mimics what a 5 is to a 4, here talking about intelligence.  My thoughts would mean the "best" people were the most intelligent.  Not only is overall intelligence very hard to measure, but it's often seen that couples are not compatible if the stretch it too far.  A 10 gets bored of a 4.  A 4 gets bored of a 10. 

Stacey, do you prefer less intelligent submissives? 

I resort to my classic analogy: The Bessemer Process.  In short, the process by which iron becomes steel (a harder material) by being exposed to the stressors of pressure and heat.  A smart submissive will challenge me, keeping on the heat and pressure, and eventually the lump of iron between my temples will become a steel razor.

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RE: Do find intelligent women attractive ? - 7/18/2008 8:43:39 AM   
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Stacey, do your prefer less intelligent submissives?


Depends. If the person is going to be a long term live-in then they need to be close to my intelligence level. Not only that but their intelligence needs to overlap some with mine as far as interest are concerned. Someone who knows all about probability theory (I love math and some science) is a bigger turn on than someone who's an expert in the art world. Anyone very knowledgeable about horses I also find attractive.

I don't require as much intelligent in a submissive if we are just seeing each other for bdsm role playing. Also, those submissives that I am going to have come out just to do certain jobs are not required to be an Einstein. They only need to speak in complete sentences.

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RE: Do find intelligent women attractive ? - 7/18/2008 8:52:34 AM   
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RE: Do find intelligent women attractive ? - 7/18/2008 10:30:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		As both a sub and someone who identifies as an preteen girl age player, it is important ot me that my Domme be as smart or smarter than me. Its difficult to feel submissive to someone or a child to someone if you are constantly explaining things to them. It may not be as important for a Prodomme as a slave/sub doesn't see them as much.
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RE: Do find intelligent women attractive ? - 7/18/2008 10:50:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: StaceyTheBitch


Is anyone going to say no to this question? Many people that claim to find intelligent women attractive are in fact afraid of intelligent women. These people do their best to put intelligent women "in their place." Many people have real problems with young intelligent women. I've found from personal experience that while almost 100% of the people will answer your question with a yes. The truth is a far lower percentage of people actually want someone smarter than they are as a partner.



I agree with Stacey on this point. Many men are just plain intimidated by a female they preceive as more intelligent.

Personally, I always go for brains.



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RE: Do find intelligent women attractive ? - 7/18/2008 11:05:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		I know it is in Ask a Mistress but I have an opinion and thought I would share.

I think people in general look for people that they can interact with. Mind you andi may not have the Vocabulary that I do she has a street smart that gets my attention comes close to my own.

I have recently been in contact with a woman who was admittedly very intelligent however she was also arrogant and it seemed she waited for you to mispeak or make a questionable mistake and then she would go on and on about how what she believed was right. It was Annoying and Ugly. In the Last conversation rather than continue on her rant when I wouldn't back down that she was only defending one side of an intelectual debate she just hung up the phone and then closed off all communication by c-mail.

Now she was VERY SMART and VERY UNATTRACTIVE, Not because she was intelligent and in some ways more intelligent that I was but because she was arrogant and would rather be right than be happy, and she liked to infuse her opinion at every point that she could rather than accept that other people have different opinions.

In reality we just didn't mesh well and because of this could not get along I do not believe it had to do with intelegence as much as compatibility. I respect an intelligent woman however I don't respect anyone who cannot respect others.

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RE: Do find intelligent women attractive ? - 7/18/2008 11:10:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		If my Owner wasn't on the same level as when it comes to intellect, I do think I'd have a little trouble respecting her as a Dominant.  Also, she'd never have a slave that couldn't keep up with her in a conversation...that's the one advantage I have over the other furniture in the house. :-p

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RE: Do find intelligent women attractive ? - 7/18/2008 11:26:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		One of the things that i love about the family that i've been brought into is their intelligence.  Sure, some have more academia behind them and i might actually be the only one currently with a degree; but coming from always being the smartest person in a crowd to being amongst people as intelligent or more than i is an absolutely wonderful feeling.  Even without the academic background, or "book learnin'" if you will; the groups well-grounded common sense is a beautiful thing to behold.

As far as Stacy's contention that while nearly all will say that they find intelligent women attractive, most will in truth be intimidated by them; since when have fear and attraction been mutually exclusive?  Believe it or not, but fear and intimidation are often incredible turn-ons in the world of BDSM.


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RE: Do find intelligent women attractive ? - 7/18/2008 11:38:11 AM   
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An attractive woman is attractive.... regardless of her IQ...

Conversely.... an unattractive woman with a high IQ is just a smart ugly woman.


It's interesting how different we all are.  I don't find a woman attractive until I've had a chance to sample her IQ.  Actually, I should say this another way.  A high IQ isn't necessarily what I find attractive.  It's the quality of a woman.  Her compassion.  Her honesty.  Her curiosity about the world.  Her willingness to help others.  Her creativity.  After that, a nice smile, a great butt, and the requisite "rack" are nice extras, but optional. :-)

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RE: Do find intelligent women attractive ? - 7/18/2008 11:54:36 AM   
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Many people that claim to find intelligent women attractive are in fact afraid of intelligent women.  (snip)  The truth is a far lower percentage of people actually want someone smarter than they are as a partner.


Generally, I look for a partner who I consider at least as intelligent as I consider myself.  I've met women who are clearly more intelligent and/or they have more life experience than I.  Yes, I found this intimidating, but no more or less so than when I encounter myself in this situation with a man.  The difference is I don't want a romantic relationship with men.  Thus, as far as my dating world is concerned, romance ups the ante quite a bit.  Having said this, if there is chemistry between the woman and I and we can communicate, I take this as an opportunity to learn and to share experience.

It is a difficult, but I think important lesson to realize that we can learn something from everybody.  Each and every person has different experiences to share.  A few years back, I was teaching young, music students between the ages of 13 and 17.  One day, a new student sat down and he instantly did something that I had been having trouble with for years.  He had no idea what he was doing, but I sat there, transfixed, studying his approach.  This was just his natural inclination.  After the lesson, I spent the next six hours trying to assimilate what *he* had taught me.  The experience of watching and asking this student questions completely changed my own approach.  Since then, I've always tried to keep my ego in check.  No matter how senior or junior, and no matter what their IQ, each and every person has amazing things to share and to learn from.

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