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RE: Fair or Unfair - 12/19/2008 10:49:58 AM

littleone35

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Once Master did something (i don't remember what it was) i said Master that is not fair. He smiled looked at me and said sweetheart life is not fair and i am the Dom i decided if something is fair or not. I am never played with during punishment or displine. As it being far or not well that is up to the Dom/Master/Daddy doing the punishing. If he was playing with me while i was being displined i don't think i would learn my lesson.

If he is just spanking me cause he wants to not a punishment then he will play. It is a huge difference.

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RE: Fair or Unfair - 12/19/2008 10:56:51 AM

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"fair" is somewhere you go in the summer, ride the rides, eat cotton candy, pet a goat, etc.

as far as what goes on during punishment, or at any other time, "fair" isn't a consideration, for this slave.

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RE: Fair or Unfair - 12/19/2008 1:46:42 PM

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ORIGINAL: Gr33nT0p

If you (the sub) did something wrong and were to be punished by your Dom/Domme, let us say by holding a dime to the wall with your nose as you are squating for 15 minutes. Is it ok for your Dom/Domme to help you learn to concentrate by either fondling you, or taking the cane or flogger to your behind, or breasts or some other such distraction?

With regard to the example, I can't help but wonder what holding a dime against a wall with one's nose teaches a person other than how to hold a dime against a wall with his or her nose.

My suggestion would be to toss the thinking associated with the example situation entirely, and the dominant instead express disapproval at the submissive's actions and proceed to fondling and what not just because its the dominant's desire to do so.

I just see this type of punishment talk as an excuse to see the submissive do something that makes the dominant's crotch tingle... I mean it's fine if that's what you're going for, but I'd like the signals coming from the authority of the house to be clear and take into account I'm a grown adult with a capacity to listen and follow directions. I don't actually need to be lead though a contrived circus event to get the point, just talk to me.

If punishment indeed is your style as a dominant, then I would think you'd want to come up with something that conveys a lesson to be learned, as opposed to a game of grab-ass...

Sorry if this sounds negative and takes the oomph out of the thread, but I'm just sayin'...

Edited to clarify my point.

< Message edited by E2Sweet -- 12/19/2008 2:22:26 PM >

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RE: Fair or Unfair - 12/19/2008 3:50:23 PM

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Yes, for me a punishment needs to fit the crime. Not just be some weird random nonsense.

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RE: Fair or Unfair - 12/20/2008 2:13:32 AM

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ORIGINAL: Gr33nT0p

Is it fair that during punishment you are teased or played with or even further punishment is extended?

example:
If you (the sub) did something wrong and were to be punished by your Dom/Domme, let us say by holding a dime to the wall with your nose as you are squating for 15 minutes. Is it ok for your Dom/Domme to help you learn to concentrate by either fondling you, or taking the cane or flogger to your behind, or breasts or some other such distraction?

Please answer,
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It depends on what you're trying to achieve.

If you're in a relationship where you both like going through the 'punishment' routine for a spot of fun more than anything else, then there's nothing unfair about it.

If you're trying to effect a certain kind of behaviour, then I can't see how playing around with her can be effective punishment that will engender that kind of behaviour: surely punishment is actual punishment. But then I've never understood how tasks, such as squatting against a wall, can be effective punishment - humiliation or taking away something that she values, should prove more effective medicine.

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RE: Fair or Unfair - 12/22/2008 10:34:17 AM

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i think it is fair, punishment is up to the Dom/Domme of the relationship. if they feel the sub deserves flogged,caned ect. then by all means it is fair.....as far as the fondling being part of punishment....if the sub/slave enjoyed iit i feel it would defeat the purpose of punishment....unless not allowed to release thier pleasure.....but that would be a good end to a punishment i think....after being punished when the Dom is ready to release His/Her sub if they fondle them as a way to let them over that would actually be kind of cool i think

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