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Alumbrado -> RE: Palin as Commander in Chief (8/31/2008 10:32:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rawkmehard

editorial 'you'...if only i'd said it in quotes!

i wasn't referring to your opinion on the candidates, AL, i was referring to your ill words toward other people posting in this thread.

it's not even about sides, AL-it's about the fact that you are taking all of this WAY TOO SERIOUSLY. 

Be well,

rawk



And why do I do that,  Hmmm?  Why exactly do I call BS on people like Aynne and slave mike and CL and Owner and the rest?  I've spelled it out quite clearly more than once, and I still stand behind it...I'm not here to engage in a popularity contest.. 




slvemike4u -> RE: Palin as Commander in Chief (8/31/2008 10:35:18 PM)

WTF, where is it written that without the links to actual quotes one can't call you on youre bullshit.What kind of world do you inhabit, where with out a link it didn't happen,you are coming up empty AL...and you have been all night.




Alumbrado -> RE: Palin as Commander in Chief (8/31/2008 10:36:52 PM)

Oh, you've been doing a grand job of quoting me on things I never said... keep up the fantastic work, we wouldn't want a little thing like links or facts or reality get in your way, now would we?   [:D]




rawkmehard -> RE: Palin as Commander in Chief (8/31/2008 10:39:07 PM)

Now I'm supposed to speak about your reasons for being the way you've chosen to be in this thread?

And here I am thinking you only want to speak for yourself! Kind of you to offer this to me.

I don't care if you're popular either, AL. We've finally agreed on something!!




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Palin as Commander in Chief (8/31/2008 10:39:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

(My fucking error...sorry....

Did I fucking MISS SOMETHING HERE??????)



Sorry...I meant that more along the lines of....

"My error...hmmmmmm?"




philosophy -> RE: Palin as Commander in Chief (8/31/2008 11:01:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NumberSix

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ORIGINAL: Thadius

You still avoided the question I asked.  I am honestly looking for an answer to that one question, from anybody. 

I don't have a clue what your question is but:

It's not like I am the first person that comes to mind to jump up and down and demanding the fair treatment of women, know where I am coming from on that one?

See? there is room to find commonality and agreement from all the spectrum. I will run VP on that ticket.


Ron


....Thadius for POTUS and Ron for VP......hmm, almost makes me wish i had US citizenship so i could vote for them. i may not agree with either of them all the time, but they're honest.........and Ron would be the most quotable VP ever

Samuel Clemens




Vendaval -> RE: Palin as Commander in Chief (9/1/2008 12:20:31 AM)

That's a splendid idea!  (So many women would want to jump on that ticket...)   [:D]
 
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ORIGINAL: philosophy
....Thadius for POTUS and Ron for VP......hmm, almost makes me wish i had US citizenship so i could vote for them. i may not agree with either of them all the time, but they're honest.........and Ron would be the most quotable VP ever




BitaTruble -> RE: Palin as Commander in Chief (9/1/2008 12:33:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

That's a splendid idea!  (So many women would want to jump on that ticket...)   [:D]
 
ORIGINAL: philosophy
....Thadius for POTUS and Ron for VP......hmm, almost makes me wish i had US citizenship so i could vote for them. i may not agree with either of them all the time, but they're honest.........and Ron would be the most quotable VP ever


Well, jump on something at any rate. [;)]




bipolarber -> RE: Palin as Commander in Chief (9/1/2008 6:20:19 AM)

Interesting. The moment anyone says something about the newbie VP choice, or against HIS candidate, then, according to Al, the dems are "mudslinging."

Hummm... I guess we must have picked that nasty habit up on the playground.... the playground of the madrassa that Barrack "Hussein" Obama supposedly attended while being trained as a muslim terrorist, in the company of Paris Hilton and Britany Spears...

What a clown.





Aynne88 -> RE: Palin as Commander in Chief (9/1/2008 6:23:53 AM)

You mean you actually know which candidate that is bipolarber? He plays both sides and the middles so often I can't  tell what he thinks except that he is always right.[8|] Well, to himself that is.





meatcleaver -> RE: Palin as Commander in Chief (9/1/2008 6:26:18 AM)

She's as qualified as my brother's wife who is also an American but that is as far as it goes.




Aynne88 -> RE: Palin as Commander in Chief (9/1/2008 6:27:44 AM)

Seems that they are not the enamored of her in Alaska as once thought either.

By Yereth Rosen Mon Sep 1, 1:50 AM ET
ANCHORAGE, Alaska (Reuters) - It garnered big applause in her first speech as Republican John McCain's vice presidential pick, but Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's assertion that she rejected Congressional funds for the so-called "bridge to nowhere" has upset many Alaskans.
During her first speech after being named as McCain's surprise pick as a running mate, Palin said she had told Congress "'thanks but no thanks' on that bridge to nowhere."
In the city Ketchikan, the planned site of the so-called "Bridge to Nowhere," political leaders of both parties said the claim was false and a betrayal of their community, because she had supported the bridge and the earmark for it secured by Alaska's Congressional delegation during her run for governor.
The bridge, a span from the city to Gravina Island, home to only a few dozen people, secured a $223 million earmark in 2005. The pricey designation raised a furor and critics, including McCain, used the bridge as an example of wasteful federal spending on politicians' pet projects.
When she was running for governor in 2006, Palin said she was insulted by the term "bridge to nowhere," according to Ketchikan Mayor Bob Weinstein, a Democrat, and Mike Elerding, a Republican who was Palin's campaign coordinator in the southeast Alaska city.
"People are learning that she pandered to us by saying, I'm for this' ... and then when she found it was politically advantageous for her nationally, abruptly she starts using the very term that she said was insulting," Weinstein said.
Palin's spokeswoman in Alaska was not immediately available to comment.
National fury over the bridge caused Congress to remove the earmark designation, but Alaska was still granted an equivalent amount of transportation money to be used at its own discretion.
Last year, Palin announced she was stopping state work on the controversial project, earning her admirers from earmark critics and budget hawks from around the nation. The move also thrust her into the spotlight as a reform-minded newcomer.
The state, however, never gave back any of the money that was originally earmarked for the Gravina Island bridge, said Weinstein and Elerding.
In fact, the Palin administration has spent "tens of millions of dollars" in federal funds to start building a road on Gravina Island that is supposed to link up to the yet-to-be-built bridge, Weinstein said.
"She said 'thanks but no thanks,' but they kept the money," said Elerding about her applause line.
Former state House Speaker Gail Phillips, a Republican who represented the Kenai Peninsula city of Homer, is also critical about Palin's reversal on the bridge issue.
"You don't tell a group of Alaskans you support something and then go to someplace else and say you oppose it," said Phillips, who supported Palin's opponent, Democrat Tony Knowles, in the 2006 gubernatorial race.
A press release issued by the governor on September 21, 2007 said she decided to cancel state work on the project because of rising cost estimates.
"It's clear that Congress has little interest in spending any more money on a bridge between Ketchikan and Gravina Island," Palin said in the news release. "Much of the public's attitude toward Alaska bridges is based on inaccurate portrayals of the projects here."
(Editing by Daisuke Wakabayashi and Sandra Maler)





rulemylife -> RE: Palin as Commander in Chief (9/1/2008 6:37:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kiwisub12

Most people tend to have opinions that they change over time. Doesn't mean that they are unstable.  Means with new info. they update their thought processes.
Actually it shows a flexibility in their thinking.


That's undoubtedly what you were saying about Kerry in '04 too.  Right? 




Aileen1968 -> RE: Palin as Commander in Chief (9/1/2008 6:37:21 AM)

I haven't read the responses to this thread as I'm sure I can tell exactly what they're like...blah blah blah. 
It's really quite simple.
According to wiki (I know it's not the uber source, but it serves it's purpose here)
"Article Two of the Constitution establishes the President as commander-in-chief of the armed forces and enumerates powers specifically granted to the President, including the power to sign into law or veto bills passed by both houses of Congress."

And then the qualifications for being elected POTUS...

"Article Two of the Constitution sets the principal qualifications to be eligible for election as President. A Presidential candidate must:
  • be a natural-born citizen of the United States;
  • be at least thirty-five years old;
  • have been a permanent resident in the United States for at least fourteen years.

Additionally, the Constitution disqualifies some people from the Presidency. Under Article One of the United States Constitution, the Senate has the option, upon conviction, of disqualifying impeached individuals from holding other federal offices, including the Presidency.[4] Under the Twenty-Second Amendment, no one can be elected President more than twice. The Twenty-Second Amendment also specifies that anyone who serves more than two years as President or Acting President, of a term for which someone else was elected President, can only be elected President once. Under the Twelfth Amendment a person who is no longer eligible to be President may not be Vice President either."

So she is actually very qualified according to our Consitution to be the CIC, as are all of us who fit these requirements.  That's one of the lovely things about this country. 

But I must be confused because the last I checked, she was on the ticket as VP, not Pres. 




Roselaure -> RE: Palin as Commander in Chief (9/1/2008 6:44:45 AM)

The main job of the VP is to be able to step in and govern as president in the envent of the president's death or incapacitation.  THe VPs qualifications therefore are just as important at the President's.  that said, I don't object to her on the grounds that she's not qualified.  Constitutionally, she's qualified. 

I don't agree with her politics, or Senator McCain's.  For me it's not about the person, but the idealogy.  I'm fascinated by the carnival that is our political system, but it doesn't affect my vote.  I'm never one of those last minute voters who can't decide.  However this election seems desitined to be decided on the margins by voters for whom it's largely an emotional choice, so it will be interesting to see how it plays out.




rulemylife -> RE: Palin as Commander in Chief (9/1/2008 6:48:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Masternslave07

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Do I have a rebuttle?     Other than the question previously posed....no ,I like the one I posted(after i added an f )Do you work for these people.You practically regurgitated a hi-lite page from her greatest hits,all correctly slanted .Are you now, or have you ever been a member of the comittee to elect John McCain.




It's rebuttal by the way.
I said this in another thread but it fits here as well. Her two years of governing are more than any of the other candidates involved here. Including John McCain. None of the others have run anything.  Interesting how lack of experience now matters to Obama supporters.


Myself, I would phrase it the other way, how lack of experience suddenly doesn't matter to McCain supporters.  Especially since that has been the core issue against Obama.  




kiwisub12 -> RE: Palin as Commander in Chief (9/1/2008 7:00:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: kiwisub12

Most people tend to have opinions that they change over time. Doesn't mean that they are unstable.  Means with new info. they update their thought processes.
Actually it shows a flexibility in their thinking.


That's undoubtedly what you were saying about Kerry in '04 too.  Right? 


no - i didn't pay too much attention to that election. This election on the other hand is turning out to be a lot of fun. [:)]




celticlord2112 -> RE: Palin as Commander in Chief (9/1/2008 7:04:26 AM)

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Just how many folks have the courage of their convictions?

Not nearly enough, it seem.

And then there's Obama, who threw his own grandmother under the bus to pontificate about racism.......

Obama lacks the prerequisite for having the courage of his convictions....the convictions themselves.




Alumbrado -> RE: Palin as Commander in Chief (9/1/2008 7:21:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: bipolarber

Interesting. The moment anyone says something about the newbie VP choice, or against HIS candidate, then, according to Al, the dems are "mudslinging."

Hummm... I guess we must have picked that nasty habit up on the playground.... the playground of the madrassa that Barrack "Hussein" Obama supposedly attended while being trained as a muslim terrorist, in the company of Paris Hilton and Britany Spears...

What a clown.




And would you care to provide a quote where I say who MY candidate is?  Or are you just making up things again?  Funny how you were happy to let those defending the lies about Obama stand unchallenged earlier.




kiwisub12 -> RE: Palin as Commander in Chief (9/1/2008 7:26:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

She's as qualified as my brother's wife who is also an American but that is as far as it goes.


So your sister-in-law has been a governor of a state?




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