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Briena -> RE: Proof Of Health (9/3/2008 3:59:42 PM)
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ORIGINAL: IvyMorgan
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ORIGINAL: vield
All women who have not had it should get the vaccination against HPPV (I think those are the initials?) because there seems to be a connection between a woman catching this and then later getting cervical cancer.
For every 1000 women who are vaccianted, possibly one would have gotten cancer and now won't. (This is the claim made by the manufacturers of the vaccines, btw, not just something I pulled out of the air having watched documentaries, read websites, done research and such like.)
About 80% of women have one of the myriad of viruses. (and there are about 100 of the damn things, bloody HPV)
Most women who get one of the few viruses that would cause cancer fight it off naturally and without ever knowing it.
Most who get one which would cause cancer and don't fight it off naturally don't get one of the two types of HPV (16 and 18) that the vaccine treats.
There are two vaccines, the US one, GARDASIL, that was licensed first (the company that made it was going under having ploughed resources into R&D for Gardasil and had to get their vaccine licensed and distributed before a competitor did in order to make a decent return and save themselves from going under. So... they ploughed money into "women in government" and piggy backed the feminist coat-tails, joyful), that is not reknowned for being massivly safe and had a good handful or so of deaths tentativly linked to it, and that got pushed through FDA approval on slightly dodgy grounds (see donating bucket loads to women in government), popularised with an advertising campaign not based on scientic fact but emotional claims (the "one" camapign), and, erm is only effective if you get the shot *before you get infected, i.e. before you have sex* hence the massive outcry/uproar about giving 12 year olds STD shots.
In the UK, we're using Cervarix, which at least hasn't killed anyone yet.
Doctors are concerned that women will think "oh heck I had the vaccine, I won't get HPV" and not go and get smear/pap tests, and so cancer screening will be less effective. At the moment, we have one of the most effective cervical cancer screening programmes in the world, and the HPV vaccination programme might jeopardise that.
So, as well as costing an arm and a leg, and having the flaws listed above, and having only been tested for 7 years or so, and in the case of Gardasil being dangerous... it might wreck a good thing.
Religious types are getting in a tissy about the whole STD vaccine of 12 year olds leading to promiscuity BS. And trying to drag abstinance back into the classroom (in the UK, we get you already do this in the US, despite it being proven ineffective if used with more than 30% of pupils in a given class).
Not that my getting the jab will do me any good anyway, cos, duh, I had sex already.
So, do we still think giving a generation of girls a HPV vaccine (not the boys, even though they carry it, we're not giving them to shots) is a good idea? (I really hope the original "all women who haven't yet, should" statement has been shown to be medical bolony)
*breathes*
Actually if you pop positive on one form of HPV, the shot will still protect you against the rest that you have not had.
- There are about 100 types of HPV. Approximately 40 (this said 30 types but there are actually over 40 so I changed it) of those are spread through genital contact (typically sexual intercourse). Around 12 – called "low-risk" types of HPV – can cause genital warts. In addition, there are approximately 15 "high-risk" types of HPV that can cause cervical cancer
- Approximately 20 million Americans are currently infected with HPV, and another 6.2 million people become newly infected each year. At least 50% of sexually active men and women acquire genital HPV infection at some point in their lives.
- Other HPV-related cancers are much less common than cervical cancer. The American Cancer Society estimates that in 2008, there will be:
- 3,460 women diagnosed with vulvar cancer;
- 2,210 women diagnosed with vaginal and other female genital cancers;
- 1,250 men diagnosed with penile and other male genital cancers; and
- 3,050 women and 2,020 men diagnosed with anal cancer.
- Certain populations may be at higher risk for HPV-related cancers, such as gay and bisexual men, and individuals with weak immune systems (including those who have HIV/AIDS).
- A vaccine can now protect females from the four types of HPV that cause most cervical cancers and genital warts. The vaccine is recommended for 11 and 12 year-old girls. It is also recommended for girls and women age 13 through 26 who have not yet been vaccinated or completed the vaccine series.
There is currently no vaccine licensed to prevent HPV-related diseases in men. Studies are now being done to find out if the vaccine is also safe in men, and if it can protect them against HPV and related conditions. The FDA will consider licensing the vaccine for boys and men if there is proof that it is safe and effective for them. There is also no approved screening test to find early signs of penile or anal cancer.
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The CDC says:
- On June 8, 2006, the FDA licensed Gardasil®, the first vaccine developed to prevent cervical cancer caused by certain kinds of human papillomavirus (HPV) . Since then, more than 16 million doses of Gardasil vaccine have been distrubuted in the United States. At this time, the U.S. does not have a national registry for immunization and vaccination, therefore cannot report the total number of people who have received Gardasil.
- The FDA has licensed the vaccine as safe and effective. This vaccine has been tested in thousands of females (9 to 26 years of age) around the world. These studies have shown no serious side effects. The most common side effect is brief soreness at the injection site. CDC, working with the FDA and other immunization partners, will continue to monitor the safety of Gardasil.
- VAERS received 21 reports of death following Gardasil vaccination (17 were U.S. reports, 4 were foreign reports). Of the U.S. reports, only 12 reports contained the level of information adequate for further analysis. After careful review of those reports, VAERS could not establish a causal relationship between vaccination and death.
- For the remaining 5 U.S. reports of death, one is in the process of being followed up, and for 4 reports, we were unable to obtain any patient identifying information; therefore, we could not confirm death outcomes.
Note: While Gardasil was being tested in the U.S. before it was licensed, 10 people in the group that received the HPV vaccine and 7 people in the placebo group died during the trials. None of the deaths was considered vaccine-related.
Guillan Barré Syndrome (GBS)
Because GBS occurs at a rate of 1 to 2 per 100,000 people in their teens, it is likely that some cases occur after vaccination by chance alone and are not caused by vaccination. Among 9 to 26 year-olds, the number of reports of GBS received by VAERS are within the range that could be expected to occur by chance alone after a vaccination. Studies are underway to evaluate the risk of GBS that may be associated with receipt of Menactra vaccine.
~~Taken from the CDCs vaccine safty website: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/vaers/gardasil.htm
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Thems be the facts YO! [;)]
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