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RE: on command - 11/28/2008 11:36:47 AM   
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Yes we do, especially when it leads us to make a public spectacle (ass) of ourselves. The other thing that bothers me about it is that every one of the women that I have talked to about it has said they could do it because they have this "amazing" connection to their dominant. Well, that to me implies that those of us who can't manage it must just not be connected deeply enough.


Yeah but erin, those are the same people who probably profess that having a D/s or BDSM relationship is cooler and deeper than having a so called vanilla one - and it's just as much bullshit.
Yes there will always be those that want to be seen as edgy or cooler, but it's not a competition.  But it's unfair to dismiss a bunch of people who can do this, just because of a bunch of bullshitters.
 
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RE: on command - 11/28/2008 11:37:44 AM   
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I have had orgasms with no physical contact, but damn rarely!  I can stop myself from having one much more easily. 


I can definitely have orgasms with no contact. I can have them from a thought...or heck, even if the wind is blowing...lol. Like I said, I don't think it's impossible. But I do think it's a lot more rare than a lot of dominants think it is.

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RE: on command - 11/28/2008 11:41:07 AM   
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Nope, I haven't ever be able to accomplish that particular feat and I've got a hair trigger clit myself. I've attended public play parties for a couple of decades now and have never witnessed it being done although there was this time at APEX where I saw it (obviously) faked but apparently the dom in question was so cool ::koffs:: that everyone just oohed and aahed and bought into it hook, line and sinker. It just made me roll my eyes. That said, I don't need physical stimulation to have an orgasm.. I can get there with just my brain, but it takes a good long time and seems sort of pointless to spend that much time just to have an orgasm. Someone else getting me to cum without some sort of direct stimulation has never happened and I don't anticipate it at this late in the game. Aroused, sure.. actual orgasm, nope.

I can't be hypnotized either.  

More power to those that can get there from here. I think it would be kind of funny to make the command word some sort of mundane, every day word like .. I don't know.. lettuce. Then ya go to the produce aisle and see if it really works. ::chuckles::


that's a roundabout way of making your point but I feel you. I also feel you beg the issue, which is that the mental aspect is the key. the physical in this case is an energy conduit-a channel, but the mental stimulation is the catalyst, the spark-imo. nice response btw

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RE: on command - 11/28/2008 11:44:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't think everyone views the term "cum on command" in the same way. 

I've heard claims of women "cumming on command" with nothing more than a verbal command from their master, completely absent of any sexual or physical touch.  I find that very difficult to believe, but I guess anything is possible.

However,  if when you say "cum on command" you're  talking about sexually stimulating your submissive and conditioning her to hold her orgasm back until you give permission, I think that's a fairly common practice, and not at all remarkable. It takes some self-control and practice, but I really don't see this as anything even close to extraordinary, or any bigger of a deal than a man trying to hold out and make his erection last longer for a better, longer and more intense sexual experience.  

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RE: on command - 11/28/2008 11:52:14 AM   
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I don't think everyone views the term "cum on command" in the same way. 

I've heard claims of women "cumming on command" with nothing more than a verbal command from their master, completely absent of any sexual or physical touch.  I find that very difficult to believe, but I guess anything is possible.

However,  if when you say "cum on command" you're  talking about sexually stimulating your submissive and conditioning her to hold her orgasm back until you give permission, I think that's a fairly common practice, and not at all remarkable. It takes some self-control and practice, but I really don't see this as anything even close to extraordinary, or any bigger of a deal than a man trying to hold out and make his erection last longer for a better, longer and more intense sexual experience.  



let me clarify. we had physical contact. I was manipulating her clit, directly and roughly. it didn't happen instantaneously but took only a few strokes and the words:cum now bitch! she wasn't faking it, trust me.

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RE: on command - 11/28/2008 11:59:04 AM   
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let me clarify. we had physical contact. I was manipulating her clit, directly and roughly. it didn't happen instantaneously but took only a few strokes and the words:cum now bitch! she wasn't faking it, trust me.



Technically, I personally wouldn't list that as cumming on command, or even with command.  Cumming on command is more a pavlovian response.
 
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RE: on command - 11/28/2008 12:02:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		so you disagree that it's possible?

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RE: on command - 11/28/2008 12:08:59 PM   
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let me clarify. we had physical contact. I was manipulating her clit, directly and roughly. it didn't happen instantaneously but took only a few strokes and the words:cum now bitch! she wasn't faking it, trust me.



I'm not trying to take anything away from you (or anyone else) but maybe she's just easily and quickly stimulated by the physical touch, and merely exercising control until she's given the final command.  I guess that could be interpreted as "cumming on command", as if your command alone accomplished the orgasm,  but if she's not ready physically and mentally to climax, I doubt the voice command alone would make it happen.  I'm not saying it's not possible, but I've always experienced orgasms to happen when both the physical AND the mental are aligned.  I guess it's possible that your vocal cue could be the final stimulation that she needs to bring her to that moment of climax, but it's also possible that you are in tune to her body and her reactions,  and you are commanding her at the moment she seems ready.  Afterall, would you command her if it didn't seem like she was on the verge?

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RE: on command - 11/28/2008 12:10:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		I agree with dark in disagreeing that what happened in your experience was "cumming on command".  Perhaps "cumming with permission" is closer, or you just have good timing.

I will cum harder if a deep, growling voice tells me to cum when I'm getting close to cumming, but I just call that BONUS!



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RE: on command - 11/28/2008 12:11:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		The problem with this sort of crap is that people think it is about the dominant's skill level when in fact almost all of it has to do with the physical and biological makeup of the woman, a combination of a sensitive clit and a deliciously overactive imagination.

I am not bragging when I say my skill's as a lover are rather advanced but some women still take a very long time to orgasm.  Now with the right combination of physical and emotional foreplay they can certainly be made to cum when I lower my voice and "cum" rumbles up deep from my throat but even that is as much luck and timing as anything.

I believe it can be done with the right woman but the key here is "right woman" as opposed to the right man.  It would be like a man bragging about how studly he is for training his partner to do something that required her to be double jointed.  Now if he implanted or designed those joints, that would impress me but it is one of those things that I just kind of smile and nod at, inwardly smiling as well but for an entirely less polite reason.

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RE: on command - 11/28/2008 12:13:32 PM   
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so you disagree that it's possible?


What you were doing is making her cum. I don't see that as cumming on command either. If Sir was stimulating my clit directly and roughly I would cum at least once, more likely several times, over the course of a few minutes....and he wouldn't have to say a word. But even if he did say a word it would make no difference.

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RE: on command - 11/28/2008 12:13:36 PM   
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so you disagree that it's possible?


No.  I agree it is possible.  I don't agree that your experience was cumming on command.
 
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RE: on command - 11/28/2008 12:16:24 PM   
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I agree with dark in disagreeing that what happened in your experience was "cumming on command".  Perhaps "cumming with permission" is closer, or you just have good timing.


I absolutely agree with the 'cumming with permission'.  To me, that is how the OPs scenario came across.
 
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RE: on command - 11/28/2008 12:18:24 PM   
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let me clarify. we had physical contact. I was manipulating her clit, directly and roughly. it didn't happen instantaneously but took only a few strokes and the words:cum now bitch! she wasn't faking it, trust me.



I'm not trying to take anything away from you (or anyone else) but maybe she's just easily and quickly stimulated by the physical touch, and merely exercising control until she's given the final command.  I guess that could be interpreted as "cumming on command", as if your command alone accomplished the orgasm,  but if she's not ready physically and mentally to climax, I doubt the voice command alone would make it happen.  I'm not saying it's not possible, but I've always experienced orgasms to happen when both the physical AND the mental are aligned.  I guess it's possible that your vocal cue could be the final stimulation that she needs to bring her to that moment of climax, but it's also possible that you are in tune to her body and her reactions,  and you are commanding her at the moment she seems ready.  Afterall, would you command her if it didn't seem like she was on the verge?


bingo. I'd be a liar and a real charlatan if I disagreed with this key point. remember the term I choose:catalyst. the chemistry's already happening, I just set it off. hey everyone the point of this thread is to put it out there-can a woman be brought to orgasm with absolutely bare minimum stimulation (in terms of the amount of time), with emphatic suggestion on her dom's part? I don't see anyone proving it impossible. hey isn't the journey actually more important than the destination in this case?

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RE: on command - 11/28/2008 12:22:00 PM   
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can a woman be brought to orgasm with absolutely bare minimum stimulation (in terms of the amount of time), with emphatic suggestion on her dom's part?


Yes, absolutely possible. I can probably prove that at any given moment on any given day. But as I said earlier....the dom's emphatic suggestion is really not necessary.

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RE: on command - 11/28/2008 12:28:16 PM   
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can a woman be brought to orgasm with absolutely bare minimum stimulation (in terms of the amount of time), with emphatic suggestion on her dom's part?


Yes, absolutely possible. I can probably prove that at any given moment on any given day. But as I said earlier....the dom's emphatic suggestion is really not necessary.


in that light I then must factor in that what happened then was not a bona fide bdsm session, it was more an edgy vanilla event. thanks

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RE: on command - 11/28/2008 12:32:10 PM   
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in that light I then must factor in that what happened then was not a bona fide bdsm session, it was more an edgy vanilla event. thanks




What the hell does THAT mean???


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RE: on command - 11/28/2008 12:32:52 PM   
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NV babe... I know your not faking and your not a liar hey.  But then there are people who don't believe in hypnotism either and it's all coming from the same kind of place hey.
It's the same for people who can't comprehend orgasm without touch.  Or even being touched anywhere but the clit.  And yet it is perfectly believable that spanking can bring on an orgasm.  Funny huh?
 
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Well .dark., it goes back to the mindset of, "If I can't do it, then anyone who claims they can is lying." It's really no biggy and speaks to closed mindedness more than the real issue at hand. I was one who always had trouble with orgasms, and was taught to get beyond that, by two different men in my life. I'm also of the belief that the human mind is capable of a hell of a lot more than we give it credit for. If the human mind can promote healing, if we can be "gun-shy" due to past traumas or trigger words that bring about memories of pain that cause us to react, if we can bring ourselves to meditative states such that we have out of body experiences, if, in times of crisis, a mother can bring her body to lift a car off a child....why is it so unbelievable to accept that we can train our mind to bring us pleasure, and to respond to trigger words or trigger sensations? I mean, I had an orgasm in my dreams last night and no one ever touched me. I woke up from it, a little disoriented by it but still experiencing it none-the-less.

I think what happens is a lot of people DO promote cirque du bdsm, and like to show off all the bells & whistles they can do. There IS a competitive mindset amongst many of us - why just in another thread is a guy wanting to have a slave competition, but aren't there actual Master/slave competitions across the country anyway? Sure there are people who want to show off what they can do, and I suppose this particular bell & whistle is overused as a trick of the trade. But whether someone claims to have experienced faith healing, hypnosis, meditations through yoga or breathing or thought control, or anything else, I hope I am never so closed minded as to have pre-determined what the rest of the world can or can not do, based on my own meager experiences.

Thank you, .dark., for being one of the few who is open enough to consider that life brings all sorts of possibilities.

And I'll also agree with LA - when one's emotional/spiritual balance is lacking, it's been an impossible accomplishment for me as well.

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RE: on command - 11/28/2008 12:36:35 PM   
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in that light I then must factor in that what happened then was not a bona fide bdsm session, it was more an edgy vanilla event. thanks




What the hell does THAT mean???


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that means neither she nor I preplanned it.

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RE: on command - 11/28/2008 12:39:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		I wasn't aware that to qualify as BDSM, something had to be "preplanned."  But I guess if that works for you, more power to ya.


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