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RE: on command - 11/28/2008 10:41:50 PM   
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though I agree to point with the post that said it was likely more about the physical contact and her sensitivity than the words, I dare say the "pillow talk" exacerbated the event.
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as an addendum to my previous post on the subject of keying in on the most sensitive part of the female body, I shared that my "initiation" onto D/s was primarily owed to a woman I was seeing who had a very sensitive clit. we used to spend a lot of time fooling around in her car (she never wore panties), and it got to the point-as I became more bold, where I pretty much trained her to cum on command.

among the subs/slaves out there (or doms/masters), have any of you experienced that level, where between direct stimulation of the clitoris and harsh verbal instructions-you can cum on command?



yep as long as they coinside with my body being ready and me not able to fight it back i sometimes could even come on command even if i was ralled up and never touched but that harsh "Cum Pet" growl of my master or how ever master would say it to my wimpers of on edge would make me cum in certain situations.


"though I agree to point with the post that said it was likely more about the physical contact and her sensitivity than the words, I dare say the "pillow talk" exacerbated the event."

I see now that the way I posed the scenario required clarification. Obviously there must be both a mental and physical connection for something one could metaphorically refer to as "spontaneous combustion," lol

yes-I felt a connection to her body and psyche. yes-I "exploited" the chemistry that developed.  yes-her response to our connecting and her innate sensitivity combined to create fireworks. I get it. My original question was whether others had experienced such connections-I have learned that the way a question is posed leaves it open to unexpected interpretations and I appreciate the lesson.

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RE: on command - 11/29/2008 12:27:02 AM   
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Dang I really see what NV was talking about.

Yes- most chicks are faking it, no matter what they say

Yes- submission has nothing necessarily to do with it

Yes- it's not really anything other than a nice parlor trick and most people use it to show off and get an ego trip

Yes- most of the time people are talking about delayed or controlled orgasms, not on command

But sheesh people- to deny that it exists and that people can and do orgasm immediately from command with no pre thought, no pre touch when they are in an emotionally and spiritually balanced place?  That's just silly.  Of course it exists, it's just not common and not really a big deal.


going forward I'll choose my words more carefully. "on command" never meant instantaneously. thanks all for another lively repartee.



In that case: Yes I can. I often have with my current partner. No I don't fake it.

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RE: on command - 11/29/2008 10:36:43 AM   
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If we're talking about being on the edge and denied an orgasm, and then coming within moments when told to..... yes, I can and do. In fact, that's pretty much the only way I get one these days, unless I'm doing it myself.

But like others on here, I wouldn't consider that coming on command - I think of coming on command as doing it basically from a cold start. And while I'm sure that's possible, I think it'd require some serious conditioning training (think Pavlov's dogs) and probably a sub that's receptive to stuff like hypnotic suggestion.

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RE: on command - 11/29/2008 10:47:05 AM   
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I can, without being physically touched.  

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RE: on command - 11/29/2008 4:29:34 PM   
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If we're talking about being on the edge and denied an orgasm, and then coming within moments when told to..... yes, I can and do. In fact, that's pretty much the only way I get one these days, unless I'm doing it myself.

But like others on here, I wouldn't consider that coming on command - I think of coming on command as doing it basically from a cold start. And while I'm sure that's possible, I think it'd require some serious conditioning training (think Pavlov's dogs) and probably a sub that's receptive to stuff like hypnotic suggestion.


we've already let go of any notion that "cumming on command" referred to instantaneous orgasmic response based on verbal communication. I previously admitted that the occasion did take at least my stroking her clit for a few moments, then whatever else happened happened. what I find most fascinating is the number of responses that took me so literally as to believe that I think mere words alone can drive a woman to orgasm. what a talent to covet!

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RE: on command - 11/29/2008 5:09:31 PM   
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I've just given this thread a cursory reading because I find it an intriguing topic. I find that I'm in agreement with mistoferin , and with what seems to be the general consensus here. I find it interesting that I've never heard a male claim to be able to "cum on command." Has anyone else? And if so, was the male erect when the command was given? And, if no one else has heard of men "cumming on command," why do you suppose the gender-based disparity?

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RE: on command - 11/29/2008 5:12:14 PM   
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"what I find most fascinating is the number of responses that took me so literally as to believe that I think mere words alone can drive a woman to orgasm. what a talent to covet! "  Before reading through the thread, I took your original statement the same way because when I have seen this "trick" "performed," that's always the way it's been played out.  The Dom may have performed some bondage and/or corporal punishment on the sub, who is then commanded to "cum" and who obligingly does.

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RE: on command - 11/29/2008 5:15:06 PM   
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But graceadieu, if it's done under hypnotic suggestion, is it actually HAVING an orgasm, or is it merely presenting the appearance of having an orgasm?  A suggestible, hypnotized person may ACT LIKE a chicken, like they're riding a bicycle, like they're eating a yummy dinner on command, but are they really a chicken, really riding a bicycle, really eating a yummy dinner?

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RE: on command - 11/29/2008 5:24:15 PM   
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"what I find most fascinating is the number of responses that took me so literally as to believe that I think mere words alone can drive a woman to orgasm. what a talent to covet! "  Before reading through the thread, I took your original statement the same way because when I have seen this "trick" "performed," that's always the way it's been played out.  The Dom may have performed some bondage and/or corporal punishment on the sub, who is then commanded to "cum" and who obligingly does.



under such circumstances I would draw the same conclusion-that the event was entirely staged and therefore the reference to Meg Ryan's scene in "When Harry Met Sally" is 100% appropriate. I learn and grow.

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RE: on command - 11/29/2008 8:46:44 PM   
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I've never understood how this became an urban legend, when it's really not that hard to do. The main things are the number of repetitions and the frequency of repetition

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RE: on command - 11/29/2008 8:58:34 PM   
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Have you yourself cum on command as a result of number & frequency of repetitions, VAcontroldom?

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RE: on command - 11/29/2008 9:06:22 PM   
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I've not known a man to physically ejaculate on command.  But orgasm- yes.

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RE: on command - 11/29/2008 9:07:38 PM   
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I'd have to guess that ejaculation is the major inhibitor.  I find it highly unlikely that a man can ejaculate on command.

There have been some threads on here about this; in one of them, someone pointed out that male orgasm is not the same thing as ejaculation...but the thread didn't get much further, if I remember correctly.

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I find it interesting that I've never heard a male claim to be able to "cum on command." Has anyone else? And if so, was the male erect when the command was given? And, if no one else has heard of men "cumming on command," why do you suppose the gender-based disparity?


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RE: on command - 11/29/2008 9:28:07 PM   
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So again, any men here able to "cum on command" -- with or without ejaculation?  Men in general, what is your experience with cumming without ejaculation -- other than the multi-orgasmic, fluid-deprived kind of thing.  Happen often? sometimes? never?

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RE: on command - 11/29/2008 9:55:46 PM   
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I'm dominant I was referring to making submissive women orgasm on command
I had a dominant friend who could make a slave hard with a word, but I never asked what else they did past that. .

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RE: on command - 11/29/2008 10:14:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

There have been some threads on here about this; in one of them, someone pointed out that male orgasm is not the same thing as ejaculation...but the thread didn't get much further, if I remember correctly.



Male orgasm and ejaculation often occur at the same time so it's common to equate them as one and the same. I have a book on male orgasm (sorry, it's in the other room and I am laid up and can't get to it, and don't remember the title) and it is an interesting read, particularly in learning the various ways a man can have multiple orgasms without ejaculating.

I repeat - Just because someone has not experienced or witnessed something personally does not mean it can not be done.

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RE: on command - 11/29/2008 10:28:09 PM   
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So again, any men here able to "cum on command" -- with or without ejaculation?  Men in general, what is your experience with cumming without ejaculation -- other than the multi-orgasmic, fluid-deprived kind of thing.  Happen often? sometimes? never?


good question. different thread?

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RE: on command - 11/30/2008 6:55:51 AM   
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Sure I can....just so long as the command comes at the same exact moment I am about to cum.

I have had quite a few girlfriends who swore on their mother's graves that they could cum on command.....only to have them confide to me later that they really could do no such thing and that they were stroking their dominant's ego by faking it.


lol. you made my morning! thanks for being honest. I really think this lady was extraordinary, however once the precedent was set my hunger took root.

  I have to ask...HOW do you know she actually cums?  Because she says so or some other indicators?  Remember, Meg in When Harry Met Sally  was very convincing.  I agree with mistoferin.

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RE: on command - 11/30/2008 7:04:19 AM   
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Nope, I haven't ever be able to accomplish that particular feat and I've got a hair trigger clit myself. I've attended public play parties for a couple of decades now and have never witnessed it being done although there was this time at APEX where I saw it (obviously) faked but apparently the dom in question was so cool ::koffs:: that everyone just oohed and aahed and bought into it hook, line and sinker. It just made me roll my eyes. That said, I don't need physical stimulation to have an orgasm.. I can get there with just my brain, but it takes a good long time and seems sort of pointless to spend that much time just to have an orgasm. Someone else getting me to cum without some sort of direct stimulation has never happened and I don't anticipate it at this late in the game. Aroused, sure.. actual orgasm, nope.

I can't be hypnotized either.  

More power to those that can get there from here. I think it would be kind of funny to make the command word some sort of mundane, every day word like .. I don't know.. lettuce. Then ya go to the produce aisle and see if it really works. ::chuckles::


Ah the good old APEX demos!  I was at one where they were doing the cum on command thing.  I made sure Ihad a good view of the female's gentalia and watched with interest as she contorted and ooo'd and ahhh'd upon the command of "MAKE IT!".  All the while, there was not one physical indicator that she had a PHYSICAL orgasm.  No swelling of the labia or clitoris..no increase in redness as blood flowing into the area would cause. Suffice it to say. the only orgasm she was having was in her own mind.

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RE: on command - 11/30/2008 7:47:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MistresseLotus

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Sure I can....just so long as the command comes at the same exact moment I am about to cum.

I have had quite a few girlfriends who swore on their mother's graves that they could cum on command.....only to have them confide to me later that they really could do no such thing and that they were stroking their dominant's ego by faking it.


lol. you made my morning! thanks for being honest. I really think this lady was extraordinary, however once the precedent was set my hunger took root.

  I have to ask...HOW do you know she actually cums?  Because she says so or some other indicators?  Remember, Meg in When Harry Met Sally  was very convincing.  I agree with mistoferin.


since we're gettin rhetorical here, how does your partner know when you cum? as I recall it was a combination of body movements, rapid variations in her breathing and of course her words.

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