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RE: on command - 11/30/2008 8:48:11 AM   
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since we're gettin rhetorical here, how does your partner know when you cum? as I recall it was a combination of body movements, rapid variations in her breathing and of course her words.



Nope... that was a direct question.   All of the above can be faked ...

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RE: on command - 11/30/2008 9:00:46 AM   
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since we're gettin rhetorical here, how does your partner know when you cum? as I recall it was a combination of body movements, rapid variations in her breathing and of course her words.



Nope... that was a direct question.   All of the above can be faked ...


not to quibble, but taking that perspective is your choice. this is merely a discussion group, not a 12 step program.you're free to believe as works for you.

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RE: on command - 11/30/2008 9:21:44 AM   
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greetings

i have been able to sort of cum on command...i had a Lover who learned to read my body signs and knew when my energy rose to a peak....that being said...He would tell me to cum when i reached that point and that pretty much pushed me over the edge....

then were also times He told me to wait to cum and that was very challenging to me....however i have never been able to cum without some physical stimulation even if only pleasing Him orally...which, to me, was very stimulating...*giggles...

note: neither of us even knew of the lifestyle so reading about this is enlightening for me, thank You All for sharing Your experiences and thoughts

blessings
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RE: on command - 11/30/2008 9:34:33 AM   
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not to quibble, but taking that perspective is your choice. this is merely a discussion group, not a 12 step program.you're free to believe as works for you.



oh.. I didn't answer your question.. you will be affirmed if a woman has an orgasm by the swelling of her clitoris and labia.. puffed and flushed with blood.  The heightened smell of her musk.  Now with the Meg Ryan clip I provided.. none of that is evident externally from across the table.  However, the budding of the nipples might be a clue.. unless of course the room is cold.  I hope this helps you in the future :)

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RE: on command - 11/30/2008 9:43:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: sobayblackmaster
not to quibble, but taking that perspective is your choice. this is merely a discussion group, not a 12 step program.you're free to believe as works for you.



oh.. I didn't answer your question.. you will be affirmed if a woman has an orgasm by the swelling of her clitoris and labia.. puffed and flushed with blood.  The heightened smell of her musk.  Now with the Meg Ryan clip I provided.. none of that is evident externally from across the table.  However, the budding of the nipples might be a clue.. unless of course the room is cold.  I hope this helps you in the future :)


you're funny. I like the subtle psych analysis, it's kinda sexy. you are a fun one! thanks lady

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RE: on command - 11/30/2008 9:58:04 AM   
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since we're gettin rhetorical here, how does your partner know when you cum?



In my case, my chest flushes, nipples harden, and gushings pour forth. Body stiffens and twitches uncontrollably, eyes glaze over, and of course there are the inner contractions.

I have also had what I called mental orgasms, as opposed to vaginal orgasms, where my body feels a rush of energy flow through, sometimes so intensely it is overwhelming. These can occur concurrently or separately from a vaginal orgasm. I have had clit stimulated orgasms and g-spot stimulated orgasms. With the g-spot orgasms, the clit does not swell, but with the clitoral orgasms, it swells a great deal. While my gushings occur with orgasms, they will still occur with g-spot stimulation whether I'm cumming or not.

I have cum on command with my former owner, from a cold, unstimulated start. I have only experienced this with him, however. He would have fun with it, as he liked to humiliate me by having me gush in the most "inconvenient" places. Much of this was achieved through experiments with energy transferring. While it was enjoyable for him, I found it to be quite physically and mentally exhausting, and would have to spend a good deal of time recuperating afterwards. Because of this, these kinds of orgasms were not physically enjoyable to me at all, but the connection I felt to him from it was pretty incredible. He capitalized on this reaction in me and would work me to exhaustion. Now that I belong to myself again, I'm learning what it is like to have an enjoyable orgasm, and all I can say is...yum. :)

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RE: on command - 11/30/2008 11:01:50 AM   
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When in subspace, kristine can orgasm on verbal command with no physical stimulation. I will be the first to admit that many women fake it, and some men do as well, but she tells me she is having an orgasm, She could be lying, but I believe we have an honest enough relationship that she does not feel the need to lie to me. She developed this skill with old fashioned Pavlovian training. I have had several other girls in the past who could orgasm on command, but all needed physical arousal to be able to.

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RE: on command - 11/30/2008 12:05:27 PM   
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I think it really does depend on the woman concerned and also the training. I have always been able to think myself into a vaginal orgasm, to the point where I have contractions and spasms of the uterus, but that had previously only been very rarely and relatively small orgasms. I am currently undergoing some training where I have to keep myself constantly aroused when speaking to my Dom, without touch. But it has reached the point when I am always aroused when speaking to Him, just hearing His voice arouses me. He will often command me to cum (and I have done on that command alone, to the point of squirting, but only a very few times) and the majority of time He wants me to countdown from 10 and then cum. I think I will reach the stage where I will not need the countdown, at present it is so I can regulate my orgasms and become familiar with my body to a heightened degree, the countdown is either to raise my arousal to the point of cumming or to be in control so that I don't cum until the end of the countdown. The training is still very new and I am very much still learning but what it has brought home to me, and like another poster mentioned, it is about the control I have over my own body, rather than the control the Dom has, our mental connection makes me want to do as he says without hesitation and thus that also plays a role, but a secondary one as the control I have is the more influential factor.

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RE: on command - 11/30/2008 2:25:22 PM   
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quote:


since we're gettin rhetorical here, how does your partner know when you cum? as I recall it was a combination of body movements, rapid variations in her breathing and of course her words.


Well I know for sure, my chest flushes and my breathing changes and my body shakes. Yes you can change your breathing and body shaking but you can't fake the flush!

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RE: on command - 12/2/2008 9:33:46 AM   
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But graceadieu, if it's done under hypnotic suggestion, is it actually HAVING an orgasm, or is it merely presenting the appearance of having an orgasm?  A suggestible, hypnotized person may ACT LIKE a chicken, like they're riding a bicycle, like they're eating a yummy dinner on command, but are they really a chicken, really riding a bicycle, really eating a yummy dinner?


I didn't mean actually being under hypnosis at the time. I meant that I imagined that, in order for a sub to respond to a command without concious control like that, it would help for them to be receptive to subconcious suggestion. Sorry for the confusion!

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RE: on command - 12/2/2008 10:12:34 AM   
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Actually, I can cum on command.  And within moments.. however, I can do it to myself.  I have yet to meet anyone who could call me up and say "CUM!" and have me gushing on my desk chair.
I see it as a sort of self hypnosis more than actual desire.  I can make myself cum with no stimulation but.. it is.. empty.  There is no payoff other than some spasms, some all over body blushing, and a bit of .. well a consideral amount of moisture down below.  I never saw the point of it, probably because I can do it to myself.

For me allowing some guy to call me up and say CUM!  would be a hollow gesture.  Like.. he was too lazy to get me there himself.  Plueassse.  Men who seek that end for me are always going to appear like they want an easy route.  No thanks.  Give me HOURS of sex!  Days of play!  Shoot.. fuck me till my brains are spilling out of my ears and I am begging for you to stop.  But don't ask me to cum on command.   When I am needing to cum, a freight train could not stop it.
THOSE are worth waiting for.
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I think that is why so many people have difficulty believing it, because the concept of "on command" is that of instantly.


Cali


It can be done instantly, but it was a lot of (mental and emotional) work to get to that point, wasn't easy and wasn't fun. But as you can see from the comments of this thread, we're all faking it, liars, ego strokers, etc. Eh. It really isn't worth it to go there.

So, ya know, exit stage left and all that...

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RE: on command - 12/2/2008 11:14:46 AM   
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For me allowing some guy to call me up and say CUM!  would be a hollow gesture.  Like.. he was too lazy to get me there himself.  Plueassse.  Men who seek that end for me are always going to appear like they want an easy route.  No thanks.  Give me HOURS of sex!  Days of play!  Shoot.. fuck me till my brains are spilling out of my ears and I am begging for you to stop.  But don't ask me to cum on command.   When I am needing to cum, a freight train could not stop it.
THOSE are worth waiting for.
Kyst




I can most certainly understand that. In my case, it wasn't some guy, but my owner over the course of a few years, and it wasn't always via a call, but in person. It wasn't a case of laziness for us, but an exercise of control, power, energy, and connection.

Not to say we didn't have the other delicious sex and goings on that you spoke of, and those were most certainly more powerful, yummy orgasms for sure.

I'm not sure I'll have or even want that kind of connection again. If it was a once in a lifetime thing for me, I'm ok with that. I prefer the play and tease and fully complete orgasms, too.

I loved the "brains are spilling out of my ears" part - great visual!!

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RE: on command - 12/2/2008 1:33:41 PM   
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I could write a lot about such an experience, but I'll leave the thought that it may not always be what Doms desire most even though we chase it hard. Ego thing?

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RE: on command - 12/2/2008 1:34:42 PM   
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Ego thing?


Definite ego thing. But then I like feeding an owner's ego.

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RE: on command - 12/2/2008 1:40:42 PM   
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Ego thing?


Definite ego thing. But then I like feeding an owner's ego.


I really had a much deeper post written thanking you for your honesty, but I deleted it and made my point in a generic way. Thanks..you got it anyway.

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RE: on command - 12/2/2008 1:45:24 PM   
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There is a sure fire way to tell if a woman is having an orgasm. The area between the anus and vagina will pulse when a woman is coming. Put your finger there and see if that little throb is going on and you'll know for sure.  It can't be faked.

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RE: on command - 12/2/2008 1:47:28 PM   
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There is a sure fire way to tell if a woman is having an orgasm. The area between the anus and vagina will pulse when a woman is coming. Put your finger there and see if that little throb is going on and you'll know for sure.  It can't be faked.


LOL...somehow that is so practical.

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RE: on command - 12/2/2008 3:28:12 PM   
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though I agree to point with the post that said it was likely more about the physical contact and her sensitivity than the words, I dare say the "pillow talk" exacerbated the event.
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ORIGINAL: sobayblackmaster

as an addendum to my previous post on the subject of keying in on the most sensitive part of the female body, I shared that my "initiation" onto D/s was primarily owed to a woman I was seeing who had a very sensitive clit. we used to spend a lot of time fooling around in her car (she never wore panties), and it got to the point-as I became more bold, where I pretty much trained her to cum on command.

among the subs/slaves out there (or doms/masters), have any of you experienced that level, where between direct stimulation of the clitoris and harsh verbal instructions-you can cum on command?




yep as long as they coinside with my body being ready and me not able to fight it back i sometimes could even come on command even if i was ralled up and never touched but that harsh "Cum Pet" growl of my master or how ever master would say it to my wimpers of on edge would make me cum in certain situations.


"though I agree to point with the post that said it was likely more about the physical contact and her sensitivity than the words, I dare say the "pillow talk" exacerbated the event."

I see now that the way I posed the scenario required clarification. Obviously there must be both a mental and physical connection for something one could metaphorically refer to as "spontaneous combustion," lol

yes-I felt a connection to her body and psyche. yes-I "exploited" the chemistry that developed.  yes-her response to our connecting and her innate sensitivity combined to create fireworks. I get it. My original question was whether others had experienced such connections-I have learned that the way a question is posed leaves it open to unexpected interpretations and I appreciate the lesson.



oops Sir i didnt mean to misinterpret but if it in a way answered your question then i guess that works too

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RE: on command - 12/2/2008 3:34:53 PM   
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There is a sure fire way to tell if a woman is having an orgasm. The area between the anus and vagina will pulse when a woman is coming. Put your finger there and see if that little throb is going on and you'll know for sure.  It can't be faked.


LOL the way some of us thrash around, that could be hazardous!!

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RE: on command - 12/2/2008 8:59:24 PM   
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i havent read the whole thread.. possibly because its been discussed before.  but.. here is my world on cumming on command.

i do it, have for years and years.  the whole flushing, panting, moaning, drenched between my legs, ect.  i dont need to be touched, or worked up.  it can happen when i am happy, sad, mad, yelling and screaming.. doesnt matter.  if it has been long enough between orgasms, i will even squirt.  i have had men command me to cum in my sleep, and i wake up to a full blown orgasm and im ready to get busy.

this connection was established initially over the phone.. to both our surprises... then its translated to on line.. wow.. a shock that a typed word could get a response.  when i flew to california to meet him, it was my first test.  he barked the command into my ear as we were getting into his car.  he was well pleased with the response.  since then, this man and i have parted ways, and it seems i am highly sexual.  others have been able to produce the same results.

no, i dont require stimulation.  but there does have to be a trust on some level.

and for those who think its lazy... lol... you have no clue.  a man who can stop a woman like me in the middle of an argument or serious discussion to cut lose, is a man i want in my life for a long time.  cus, honey, once im done moaning like a slut in heat from the first... the rest are a sheer delight and dont stop for hours.

imagine your man coming up behind you, leaning in close, and growling that whispered desire into your ear, your body tensing, exploding, tingling from the rush of hunger, passion and pleasure.  he gets a satisfaction knowing he has produced that outcome, and i simply get horny(er).  ask the men around you if they could produce that result in their women, what would they think?  how would they feel?  its a rush for both people.

maybe it is ego.  for sex like that, ill feed it forever!

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