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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Dang, this thread is still going!  So glad that it hasn't degenerated into ick.

I haven't gotten any of the mold-me spam...  I am sad. 

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ORIGINAL: IronBear
if you continuing to attempt to mould me into your idea of a perfect aristocratis officer and gentleman, you do not love me but wish to clone me for your social uses. If however you love me, you will allow me to make my mistakes and learn by them. You will allow me to grow and try to reach my potential and take pride in my achievments both great and small...

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we just put a special label on it to increase the moisture factor in our panties.

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ORIGINAL: gypsygrl

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we just put a special label on it to increase the moisture factor in our panties.

Yup.  And, isn't that the point?  To take things that aren't 'supposed' to be sexy and make them sexy?  To mold someone is to excercise power over them and, for some, at least, that's hot.  Even if the molding is in name only, the rhetoric can be sexy.  Its not much different from people who get off on using the language of rape in a consensual situation that only looks like rape in order to get off.

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ORIGINAL: Lockit
What do you all think?  Do you want to mold someone who is an adult?  Do we send the message that, that is what we want to do?

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Is it crazy to expect an adult to have some adult skills and be somewhat able to change thier own bad habits?

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ORIGINAL: NuevaVida

I never did understand the hostility felt by so many toward those who are not as strong. We all have our place in this world and we are all ever-changing. Why not just be grateful for our own strengths rather than resentful toward the weak? We seem to only accept each other's differences that are on some sort of approval list or something. If you don't have time and energy in your world to spend on weaker people, then don't, but the animosity I often see represents to me a vested emotional interest that I just don't understand. To each their own, including the damsels and knights.

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ORIGINAL: camille65

He took me and has shaped me.

Every day I am thankful for his efforts.

This is one of those threads that makes me feel a bit sad and once would have made me feel ashamed for being who I am.
Yup I am one of those detested and maligned needy subs.

I actually need a certain amount of *oh that dreaded and horrific word* MICROMANAGEMENT and he is more than willing to supply that for me.

Ironic that we are a group of people fully accepting the idea of physically brutalizing others because it is consensual yet not at all accepting of what I tend to call emotional kinks. Some actually need to be beaten to feel right inside and be balanced, some need to be stripped down and built back up.

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ORIGINAL: camille65

He took me and has shaped me.

Every day I am thankful for his efforts.

This is one of those threads that makes me feel a bit sad and once would have made me feel ashamed for being who I am.
Yup I am one of those detested and maligned needy subs.

I actually need a certain amount of *oh that dreaded and horrific word* MICROMANAGEMENT and he is more than willing to supply that for me.

Ironic that we are a group of people fully accepting the idea of physically brutalizing others because it is consensual yet not at all accepting of what I tend to call emotional kinks. Some actually need to be beaten to feel right inside and be balanced, some need to be stripped down and built back up.

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ORIGINAL: MidMichCowboy

I see and talk to Dom's who think it would be so "cool" to eliminate all trace of what a person was and completely make them over into their "doll". That, I can't accept.

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ORIGINAL: sexisubi

i think it would be impossible to truly mold someone... then all they need do is find the perfect body... nothing to deal with the woman being themselves... that doesn't sound fair so i would agree.

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ORIGINAL: MidMichCowboy

But did he elimiate the spark of who you are inside of you?

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ORIGINAL: MidMichCowboy

I see and talk to Dom's who think it would be so "cool" to eliminate all trace of what a person was and completely make them over into their "doll". That, I can't accept.

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ORIGINAL: NuevaVida

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ORIGINAL: camille65

He took me and has shaped me.

Every day I am thankful for his efforts.

This is one of those threads that makes me feel a bit sad and once would have made me feel ashamed for being who I am.
Yup I am one of those detested and maligned needy subs.

I actually need a certain amount of *oh that dreaded and horrific word* MICROMANAGEMENT and he is more than willing to supply that for me.

Ironic that we are a group of people fully accepting the idea of physically brutalizing others because it is consensual yet not at all accepting of what I tend to call emotional kinks. Some actually need to be beaten to feel right inside and be balanced, some need to be stripped down and built back up.

Camille, I'm really glad you no longer feel ashamed from other people's words. I love what you write here, and I'm so glad you are receiving everything you want in your relationship. I love some elements of micromanagement, too, and I enjoyed being molded/shaped/trained (oh my). You are right - physical brutality is much more accepted than emotional. I think that's because emotional can cut so deep and can be very frightening (and damaging if done poorly). People tend to be protective and guarded in that area, and perhaps view those who aren't as "needy, weak, insecure..." or whatever condescending label du jur. :)

But remember, people respond to circumstances based on their own experiences and frames of mind. I'll never comprehend "rape play" for myself, for example, because of my past experiences, and it would be easy for me to respond to others with a rather aghast reaction. That's because I would be projecting my own emotional fears onto their situation, rather than understanding their experiences, needs and desires are different than mine and perfectly OK. I suspect those who react strongly to micromanagement, molding, and weaknesses are likely doing the same. Rather than get upset now, I try to explain where I'm coming from, in the hopes others can see it and be less critical about it. But the reality is that people are going to think and feel what they do, and it usually has nothing to do with who we are, on the receiving end.

In any case, I'm glad you are writing more about where you are coming from, because it adds perspective and balance to the diversity that we all share.