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RE: Set of rules... - 12/3/2008 1:37:23 PM   
DesFIP


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Re punishment: I challenge you to kneel for an hour even unbound, and then see if you can stand up by yourself afterwards. Beyond that the focus on ass being red says to me you are looking for excuses to punish because you enjoy making her ass red. I wouldn't trust you not to be punishing without reason just to get your rocks off. And if you propose to spank her on other occasions you might just find that she will hate it everytime because you've taught her to find all pain play emotionally distressing and not arousing.

Sex whenever. Nope, not if it's in public. You may not mind becoming a registered sex offender but she may. Not at home at all times either. Think she won't ever be sick? Demand this anyway while she's suffering and she'll figure you're too selfish to care about her needs.

Priority to you over her family? There was some guy last year who posted about what a bad sub he had because she refused to skip her grandfather's 80th birthday in order to accompany him to a barbecue.

The problem is that your rules don't allow for reality. They would go nicely in a piece of fiction.

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RE: Set of rules... - 12/3/2008 1:42:34 PM   
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RE: Set of rules... - 12/3/2008 1:44:59 PM   
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Slavery (I know you call her a submisive) is illegal as is physical abuse ... spanking and whipping.



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RE: Set of rules... - 12/3/2008 1:46:22 PM   
sexisubi


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Status: offline 		A lot of these things can just be solved from conversations and dont need to be on this well written, however repetitive document.

For example i went out with a wonderful Dominant when i was dating who set expectations through conversations... like he said he wouldnt let a girl sleep in his bed unless she gave him oral in the morning, she could stay over on the floor but no in the bed. That even in public he is sir... things like that giving me exactly what he wants without putting it on paper i could assess what i should be doing and not be doing if i choose this path.

my Master actually said to me when i first moved in that He has the option to choose what i eat, and what excersises i do if need be. even though it's not in my rules.

Now lets talk about the document itself... there are times where it repeats itself... like freedom of thought is in at least two areas, conflict resolution is also in two areas, sir and master is in two or three areas.

the document also has areas that could be elimiated or relooked at... like jewelry or dress- even though one might think they look sexy and classy someone else might think they do not. remember that it is an honor to serve a Master-- one that should not be taken lightly... requiring jewelery or collars before full submission can bring less meaning to its importance... however that is personal opinion.

it says the submissives limits will be taken into consideration.. if it is a limit as always it should be respected by all parties. stretching boundries fine but limits... limits are there for a reason so one might want to keep that to themselves to not cause confusion.  

if the document was one page it would be better... using conversation to sway how one wishes for things to be conducted is a better idea then pushing everything on someone at once and putting 4 pages on ones bedroom wall can be a lot of pages. i think you have the right idea... just relook at the document and think 'what do I do differently then everyone else' and just stick with those concepts rather then the entire relationship.

good luck.  

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RE: Set of rules... - 12/3/2008 1:50:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		I suspect you hit the nail on the head lusciouslips. This dominant is 25 and doesn't mention having any experience. I'm sure he will quickly realize his expectations are unrealistic once he has an opportunity to put them to the test.

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RE: Set of rules... - 12/3/2008 1:51:33 PM   
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quote:

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Rules are made to be broken--always. The more rules you have the less obedience you will get.


That is absolute BULLSHIT!

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RE: Set of rules... - 12/3/2008 1:55:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

quote:

ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

Rules are made to be broken--always. The more rules you have the less obedience you will get.


That is absolute BULLSHIT!


But how do you REALLY feel?

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RE: Set of rules... - 12/3/2008 1:58:37 PM   
KnightofMists


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quote:

ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

But how do you REALLY feel?


I would but... The stupidity that I see in this thread would get me band for life if I made any more comments.


AND  I am not in anyway referring to the OP either.

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RE: Set of rules... - 12/3/2008 2:00:43 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

quote:

ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

Rules are made to be broken--always. The more rules you have the less obedience you will get.


That is absolute BULLSHIT!

It's absolute reality, but that's really a different thread topic, now isn't it?

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RE: Set of rules... - 12/3/2008 2:04:03 PM   
KnightofMists


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quote:

ORIGINAL: celticlord2112
It's absolute reality, but that's really a different thread topic, now isn't it?


I suppose if your reality in nothing but a dellusion it would be accurate.  It's stupid statement of little value except for small minds.

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RE: Set of rules... - 12/3/2008 2:04:08 PM   
sexisubi


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quote:

ORIGINAL: celticlord2112


quote:

ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

quote:

ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

Rules are made to be broken--always. The more rules you have the less obedience you will get.


That is absolute BULLSHIT!

It's absolute reality, but that's really a different thread topic, now isn't it?


*has a feeling this thread is about to get popular*

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RE: Set of rules... - 12/3/2008 2:11:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wow.  I am all about lists, and I like bullet points, but on a resume.  This wouldn't work for me, then again, I didn't even make it through the whole list.  My eyes crossed after the whole "submissive can think what she wants". 

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RE: Set of rules... - 12/3/2008 2:11:42 PM   
kittinSol


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Status: offline 		Judging from the crowd that's gathering up there at the entrance, I'd say you were correct  .

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RE: Set of rules... - 12/3/2008 2:13:04 PM   
agirl


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Status: offline 		Well, on the face of it it looks like a list of lists........but there are loads of *rules* in my relationship that haven't been written but have become *known and imbibed* over time. These things always seem excessive when written in list form ........mine would do.

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RE: Set of rules... - 12/3/2008 2:18:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		In general, I enjoy rules.  But this list of yours has a lot of unrealistic expectations that seem fantasy-based.   Every submissive is different, and your relationship with one submissive might have a completely different chemistry than it does with another.  I think the best rules are the ones that you make specifically for the submissive as you get to know her, and as you see what is needed for her, and desired for yourself. 

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RE: Set of rules... - 12/3/2008 2:23:50 PM   
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< Message edited by MistressYes -- 12/3/2008 2:26:55 PM >

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RE: Set of rules... - 12/3/2008 2:26:37 PM   
lilmissdefiant


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Your just asking for a potential submissive to bail on you.
Just a matter of interest, are you rich? can you afford not to work?
if You can then yes this is somewhat plausiable...otherwise...well I think there is a smidge of fantasy wandering around it.
Made me laugh
when did you expect to enforce all these rules....and something tells me you didn't take into account Aunt Flow


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RE: Set of rules... - 12/3/2008 2:26:49 PM   
NuevaVida


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Status: offline 		I only perused the list, and stopped when I read about vanilla issues being resolved without the influence of the D/s relationship. In my slavery to my former owner, there was no "vanilla." In other words, my slavery was all encompassing, and my dominant was the ruler of all aspects of my life.

In my current relationship, D/s still applies and we do not separate out "D/s" from "non-D/s". I am a whole being, who submits her being to another. What affects me affects all of me - I am not compartmentalized like that.

I see nothing wrong with writing your ideas out to keep them organized, but I personally do not separate D/s from non-D/s. I am all of me, in all facets of my life, and the person who dominates me dominates and/or influences all of it.

To each their own, of course...

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RE: Set of rules... - 12/3/2008 2:32:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Honestly as a Dominant this is too many rules for me to keep up with. Now I am not into micromanagement but I know that others are. If you can keep up with all of this and find a submissive who is willing to do them, then go for it. But do not feel shocked if somewhere down the road you start striking some of these rules because your just too damned tired to enforce them all.

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RE: Set of rules... - 12/3/2008 2:36:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		One thing Dom/mes with a lot of rules usualy over look the logistics of complying to all of them.  If you expect your sub to shave legs, maintain make up, and dress classy at all times you have to allow the sub at least a few hours every day to perform these activities.  So that means a few hours each day that your sub is not available to be serving you.  Then there is also the question of your sub having the money for the clothing and make up (it costs a lot more than men every believe).


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