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ORIGINAL: Geoffozi
Conflict Resolution 

• • • • Vanilla issues will be resolved without influence of the D/s relationship]

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ORIGINAL: MadRabbit

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

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ORIGINAL: atypicalsub
If you expect your sub to shave legs, maintain make up, and dress classy at all times you have to allow the sub at least a few hours every day to perform these activities.  So that means a few hours each day that your sub is not available to be serving you.  Then there is also the question of your sub having the money for the clothing and make up (it costs a lot more than men every believe).

Someone has been feeding you a serious line of bullshit if you think keeping shaved, putting on makeup and dressing nice every day takes several hours a day. While it's certainly not cheap, it really doesn't have to be expensive either.

I would wonder if he has ever been with a woman or how many people in this thread have been in serious D/S dynamics based on the replies.

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ORIGINAL: Geoffozi

I have been trying to put down my list of rules and I am curious as to what other people like.  By that I mean are my expectations realistic or no...if you could please take a look at what I have written down and give me your opinion...it would be greatly appreciated.

External Interaction

• Relationship
  
  • Communication
    
    • Submissive may address the Dominant by name in the presence of company where "Master" or "Sir" is not appropriate (ie. Parents, Bosses)
      
    • Conflict Resolution
      
      • Vanilla issues will be resolved without influence of the D/s relationship
        
      • All other issues will be resolved at the discretion of the dominant
        
        •   If appropriate, the dominant may choose to punish the submissive immediately
    
    
  • Personal Freedoms
    
    Submissive may think as she wishes  Submissive may choose company of friends Submissive may choose activities not involving the Dominant 
    
    Must first ask permission for each night to avoid conflict
    
    Priority is given to the Dominant
    
    
  • Sexual Interaction
    
    • Submissive will adhere to all sexual requests regardless of location, occasion, schedule or company. [/align]
  
  
• Image
  
  • Dress
    
    • Clothing
      
      • Will dress classy and sexy at all times unless told otherwise
      
      
    • Jewelry
      
      • A tight necklace will be worn at all times
        
      • Jewelry appropriate to outfit will be worn as needed
    
    
  • Personal Hygiene
    
    • Hair and makeup must be tactful at all times
      
    • Legs must be shaved even if not being exposed
    
    
  • Body Modification
  
  
• Behavior
  
  • Movement/Poise
    
    • Submissive will consider the Dominant's needs before her own at all times
      
      Includes, but is not limited to
      
      Serving food/drinks Providing comfort of sitting or standing accommodations 
    
    
  • Speech
    
    • Submissive will address the Dominant as "Master" (or "Sir", according to preference) according to who is around 
  
  
• Public/Vanilla Interaction
  
  • While out with friends
    
    • Submissive will consider the Dominant's needs before her own at all times
      
      Includes, but is not limited to
      
      Serving food/drinks Providing comfort of sitting or standing accommodations 
    
    
  • While out to dinner
    
    • As a couple
      
      Submissive will not eat or drink until Dom gives permission Submissive will sit where Dom commands
      
      
    • With others
      
      Submissive will not eat or drink until Dom gives permission (by nod or other pre arranged signal) Submissive will sit where Dom commands (points or pulls out chair)
    
    
  • Other activities

  Internal Interaction 

• Relationship
  
  • Communication
    
    • Submissive will address the Dominant as "Master" (or "Sir", according to preference) at all times
      
    • Submissive will ask permission to speak or ask a question before continuing 
      
    • Conflict Resolution
      
      Punishment
      
      If disobeying a rule set by the Dominant
      
      Spanking till ass is all red Whipping till ass is all red Tied up, blind folded, and left kneeling on the floor for an hr conversation
      If relating to a vanilla topic, it will be talked about and worked out like a regular relationship without influence of the D/s relationship
    
    
  • Personal Freedoms
    
    • Submissive can think what she wants
      
    • Submissive is entitled to her own opinion, but the Dominant's opinion outweighs hers
      
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  • Sexual Interaction
    
    When, How, Where
    
    Submissive is responsible for waking the Dominant at the prescribed time every morning by initiating oral sex.
    Who can initiate
    
    Submissive may initiate sexual interaction without waiting for the Dominant to grant permission in specific situations
    
    Oral sex
    Restrictions (orgasm, masturbation, etc)
    
    Submissive will ask permission before being allowed to climax Masturbation is prohibited, unless specifically requested by the Dominant
    Incorporating others
    
    Shall be discussed on a case by case basis
    Physical Domination
    
    • Safe words
      
      • Safe word will be established in the beginning of the relationship
      
      
    • Consent
      
      • Hard Limits will be set at
        
        • Children, Animals, Family, Feces (excrement), Drawing blood
          
        • Limits requested by Submissive are also be taken into consideration
  
  
• Image
  
  • Dress
    
    • Clothing
      
      • Panties are worn only at the request of the Dominant
        
      • Dress is sexy but classy unless otherwise specified
      
      
    • Jewelry
      
      Collar is worn while in private Cuffs are worn at the Dominant's discretion Tight necklace at all times
    
    
  • Personal Hygiene
    
    Genitals must be shaved smooth at all times
    
    
    Legs must be smooth and soft Must smell good Submissive will maintain a healthy weight and diet   
    Body Modification
    
    Tattoos and Piercings
    
    
    Dominant will grant permission regarding location and design
  Behavior
  
  • Movement/Poise
    
    Submissive will sit, stand or sleep when and as requested by the Dom  Submissive will stand chin up, shoulders back looking straight ahead Submissive will sit or kneel on the floor, palms up, legs parted, head bowed. If the submissive is allowed to sleep in the bed with her Dom, she will be cuffed, collared and blindfolded. Otherwise, the slave will sleep on provided cushion on the floor at the foot of the bed. 
    
    
  • Speech
    
    • Submissive must call Dom by proper name before each sentence
      
    • Submissive must not raise her voice
  Responsibilities
  
  • Daily Chores
    
    • When walking in, if no other command is given check and do the following:
      
      Check the kitchen
      
      If dishes in the sink, wash them and put them in the dishwasher If dishwater is full and clean empty If the counters are dirty, then clean them
      Check bedroom
      
      If bed is not made, then make it If clothes are on the floor
      
      If dirty, put in hamper If clean, hang up or put in dresser
      Check bathroom
      
      If towels are on the floor, fold and hang them up If sink and/or tub is dirty, clean it Look at the floor, if dust is collection use wet rag or swiffer to clean
      Check the furniture, floors, counters
      
      If dusty and/or dirty, clean them
    
    
  • Meals
    
    • Times for meals will be establish and followed
      
      • Extra time will be granted on a meal by meal basis
      
      
    • The content of the meals will be discussed/determined ahead of time
      
      • Preference going to the Dom
    
    
  • Entertainment/Events
    
    • As a couple
      
    • With others

  Internal Interaction rules override External rules unless otherwise specified    Dominant Privileges

• Dominant maintains all privileges not specifically given to the submissive
  
• Dominant reserves the right to add new rules with the consent of the submissive 

  Submissive Privileges

• All activities will follow safe, sane and consensual guidelines
  
• Submissive may choose whether to consent to or participate in activities prohibited by federal, state, or local law
  
• Activities not agreed upon beforehand are subject to safe words and actions
  
  • Submissive does not require permission to speak when using safe words during any activity in which she is not comfortable. Dominant may not punish or in any way retaliate for the submissive's use of safe words at any time.
    
    • "Red" for stop immediately;
      
    • "Yellow" when the tolerable threshold is reached (Dominant may continue current actions, but must not proceed any further)
    
    
  • In situations where the submissive is unable to speak, safe actions will be used instead. It is the responsibility of the Dominant to watch for these actions.
    
    • A waving, open hand signifies "red."
      
    • A waving fist signifies "yellow."

 
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ORIGINAL: SailingBum

Wow that's one long ass list of rules.  I got tired just reading it.  Me, I have one rule.  She will do as she is instructed.  Simple stuff.

BadOne

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ORIGINAL: E2Sweet

I'm curious how many human beings it would actually require to enforce all that at all times. Even on my domliest days, I wouldn't have the energy to enforce all of the enforcable points...

All kidding aside, relationships (and life in general) are not so linear and static, so I'd say something like this would not be workable. I'll also agree much of it is fantasy fodder.

I'm thinking less focus on logistics and organization, and more on creating a healthy, happy relationship would work a bit better, but that's just my opinion. Also, I'd be willing to bet most submissive women who would be willing to go along with at least the majority of this would very much prefer to learn all this from YOU as opposed to reading it from a piece of paper...I guess what I'm saying here is that you're short-changing yourself by cutting past a good bit of the fun stuff...

Edited cause I caught myself sugar-coating the truthiness a bit too much...

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ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

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ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

Rules are made to be broken--always. The more rules you have the less obedience you will get.

That is absolute BULLSHIT!

It's absolute reality, but that's really a different thread topic, now isn't it?

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ORIGINAL: atypicalsub
Yea, I have a pretty good idea of how long it takes a woman to shower, completely shave, put on make up, put together an outfit and get dressed.  None of the women I've known  did all that every single day just because it took too much time.  Hell I've known men that take two hours every morning just getting ready to go to work.  The point stands that giving the sub a long list of daily requirements means you have to give the sub time to perform those tasks.  If the tasks require supplies such as make up and clothing money has to be budgeted for those costs.

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ORIGINAL: mc1234

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ORIGINAL: atypicalsub
Yea, I have a pretty good idea of how long it takes a woman to shower, completely shave, put on make up, put together an outfit and get dressed.  None of the women I've known  did all that every single day just because it took too much time.  Hell I've known men that take two hours every morning just getting ready to go to work.  The point stands that giving the sub a long list of daily requirements means you have to give the sub time to perform those tasks.  If the tasks require supplies such as make up and clothing money has to be budgeted for those costs.

45 minutes, start-to-finish.  :)  Sometimes 60 minutes if the hair is being difficult (I have long hair).  It's really not that hard... lol.  Do I do it every day?  Not if I'm not leaving the house, but usually 6 days/week easily.  If a guy took 2 hours to get ready for the day, I'd be wondering what in god's name he was doing!