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RE: Beaten into submission - 12/5/2008 11:48:50 AM

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Now there's an interesting thought, would that be a bottomless cup of coffee, or a bottom enhanced cup of coffee?

When slave brings me my coffee....that is "bottom enhanced" by definition!

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RE: Beaten into submission - 12/5/2008 11:52:12 AM

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Are there others here who sometimes get off on being beaten into submission?

I don't always go this way. If I did I doubt I would be here to tell the tale!! but sometimes I have to be shaking and bleeding on the floor before I submit.

No, it isn't something that gets me off. Glad that Sir doesn't need to do that to me.

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RE: Beaten into submission - 12/5/2008 11:52:34 AM

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To really submit? No.
Do I occasionally need to be physically and definitively shown my place? You bet.

Now for me that doesn't involve beating, it means being picked up and tossed on the bed and pinned down despite my squirming. Spanked despite trying to get away, and if he has some rope nearby then tied up while protesting. And then stripped and used.

It's emotionally very freeing not to be asked to actively submit, but just to be taken and overwhelmed.

The problem is that when I need it I don't seem to be that good at knowing what's going on and able to articulate it. Since mostly when I object there's a valid reason, he isn't likely to just ignore my objections and act like an uncaring ass.

When I do know this is what I want, I wander out in a tee with the word BRAT painted on it and he can tell what I'm up for. It's the other times, the times I really need him to read my mind even when I don't know my own mind that are the problem.

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RE: Beaten into submission - 12/5/2008 12:01:17 PM

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i've been beaten into compliance back in the days, but i didn't submit; just did what i had to do to stay alive.

thus, nowadays i do need to beaten into submission sometimes, but not really beaten into it, more like having it yanked right out of me.

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RE: Beaten into submission - 12/5/2008 12:10:48 PM

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My Sir couldn't beat me into submission - if there is an issue that we disagree so much on that to attain my submission he had to beat me onto the floor and bloody, then he doesn't have my submission - he has my agreement under duress, and .... he has to sleep some time.

If it is a beating just for fun - no i still wouldn't like it, but yes, i would go through with it, because i have already submitted to him.

My submission has to be voluntarily or else it is coersion. and that is not submission because in my mind i won't be thinking submission type thoughts - lol. In fact if he could hear my thoughts he would probably throw me out of the house so he could feel safe.

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RE: Beaten into submission - 12/5/2008 12:13:33 PM

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Beating me into submission doesn't work with me. My dad always tried to treat me that way (not physical but mentally) and his success is that I couldn't bother less about him then I do by now. So that won't work. I met one guy on here in September who said a few times that he could have forced me into submission straight away when we met and went to his place. Well, he couldnt, as I would have packed my stuff the next day and would have left whilst he would have been at work. "I" decide to accept to submit and thats the only way where it can work longterm. When I do submit then I do have moments where it can be helpful to "remind" me of my place when I step over the line, but beating me into as such...doesn't work with me. Either I feel that he is worth it in my prospective to submit to him...or not. And if not, then I won't force myself to do it.

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RE: Beaten into submission - 12/5/2008 12:17:37 PM

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I find it tough to submit to anyone - it's been a select (very) few who have received it. I don't control my submission, it either happens or it doesn't, and there's nothing that can be done to force it if it isn't there.

And any man who tried to beat the submission out of me would be carrying his scrotum and it's contents in a small polythene bag for the rest of his life..

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RE: Beaten into submission - 12/5/2008 12:18:41 PM

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Sometimes the Gorean dynamic is about beating into submission. However, if someone tried it on me I would be filing charges. If the Master I am with doesn't get or deserve my submission, he certainly isn't going to get it by laying a hand on me. We already know he's bigger than I am, stronger than I am and a dominant--beating doesn't do a thing except prove it. Submission is my right to give as I see fit, being forced doesn't work for some of us.

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I'll refer you to what I posted on 12/5/2008 10:24:47 AM

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RE: Beaten into submission - 12/5/2008 12:19:40 PM

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<snip>...Now for me that doesn't involve beating, it means being picked up and tossed on the bed and pinned down despite my squirming. Spanked despite trying to get away, and if he has some rope nearby then tied up while protesting. And then stripped and used.

It's emotionally very freeing not to be asked to actively submit, but just to be taken and overwhelmed.

The problem is that when I need it I don't seem to be that good at knowing what's going on and able to articulate it<snip>...

i'll second that, and add that's it's aways nice to have a partner that understands and sees this in you and acts accordingly

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RE: Beaten into submission - 12/5/2008 12:31:59 PM

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I separate a person with extremely masochistic needs from someone who is really being "beaten into submission" by some sort of abuser. I'm sure that you can break non-submissive people by torture--happens in prisons and deathcamps all the time--but that crap has nothing to do with my life or the people in it.

Some people do need to be beaten, roughed up, etc, with a very force-play style of dominance. But the submissive and masochistic need has to be there in the first place, along with the trust and consent that go with it, or I would never touch that scene.

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RE: Beaten into submission - 12/5/2008 12:36:30 PM

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I separate a person with extremely masochistic needs from someone who is really being "beaten into submission" by some sort of abuser. I'm sure that you can break non-submissive people by torture--happens in prisons and deathcamps all the time--but that crap has nothing to do with my life or the people in it.

Some people do need to be beaten, roughed up, etc, with a very force-play style of dominance. But the submissive and masochistic need has to be there in the first place, along with the trust and consent that go with it, or I would never touch that scene.

Well put. This is the type of beating i'm interested in. Not forced(though it wouldn't really be forced since the sub tendancy is there to begin with so "forced" maybe in role-play or soemthing to that extent.)

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RE: Beaten into submission - 12/5/2008 12:47:28 PM

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I don't know about bleeding myself, because I am a "big whiny baby" (Mistress' words, not mine :-P), but yeah, getting tossed around and overpowered is hot. Always good for what ails me.

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RE: Beaten into submission - 12/5/2008 3:38:40 PM

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if you can beet some one in too submisson then you can beet any one in too submisson, that the turble with that one, to me you other are a subbmissove or you not, if I have too "beet it in to you" you NOT a submissove and heck if you have to beet some one to get them to submit to you, your not a Dom

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RE: Beaten into submission - 12/5/2008 3:55:06 PM

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I'd prefer to be seduced into submission.

Same here. i could be beaten to compliance but never submission~

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RE: Beaten into submission - 12/5/2008 4:00:37 PM

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I like the being beaten until I'm non-verbal and bloody but my submission doesn't come from there, it comes from my heart, I submit because I am inspired too.

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RE: Beaten into submission - 12/5/2008 4:51:12 PM

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As a scene, it could be a blast, but nobody can really beat me into submission. I choose to submit. I can be beaten into temporary compliance, but you have to sleep sometime.......

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RE: Beaten into submission - 12/5/2008 7:54:09 PM

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To really submit? No.
Do I occasionally need to be physically and definitively shown my place? You bet.

What DesFIP said. A good hard slap can do wonders on straightening someone's head out.

"Beating someone into submission" tends to connote something very negative and abusive, but when you think about it in a different context, physical force has it's uses and benefits.

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RE: Beaten into submission - 12/5/2008 8:46:26 PM

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I would find it a very intimate and desirable thing with someone I trusted to be beaten into release; the trust and intimacy would connote submission.
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RE: Beaten into submission - 12/5/2008 9:22:54 PM

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ORIGINAL: SteveAndJaz

Jaz says:

Are there others here who sometimes get off on being beaten into submission?

I don't always go this way. If I did I doubt I would be here to tell the tale!! but sometimes I have to be shaking and bleeding on the floor before I submit.

rs says:I get off on pleasing my Sir and he chose me because he doesnt need to beat me into submission, it is a nature that fits me like a Miller Chill on a disgustingly hot day at the ball game

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RE: Beaten into submission - 12/5/2008 10:01:33 PM

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I can see that situation as being a wonderful scene as resistance play is an all time favorite of my own. However, I wonder how that will work as a dynamic or foundation of a relationship.
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