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RE: hair - 12/31/2008 8:19:15 AM   
mc1234


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Status: offline 		From the OP's profile:  "He wants it SHORT. The back and sides may be shaved clean, preferably with a straight razor. Or he may decide to just have me shaved bald."  You're right, of course, LA - a hat or scarf can solve issues.  I just question doing this for someone you've never met.  

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RE: hair - 12/31/2008 8:26:40 AM   
BitaTruble


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quote:

ORIGINAL: newleafintx

So my question to other Masters is two fold. First, is this an unusual or out of line request? Second , what is the consenses about my Master being dangerous based on this request? Any thoughts would be appreciated. A New Slave 


Anyone can ask for anything at any time .. asking is not getting. You may meet him and discover an instant connection and want to do the hair cutting and that's fine. You may meet him and discover that there is no chemistry and you want to say 'no' to a hair cut and that's fine, too. You are under no obligation to do anything. If you meet and decide not to go through with it, it's all good. Go as far as you are comfortable. You never have to go further than that.. ever.

As for being dangerous for asking? Um, no.. I wouldn't say that someone who makes such a simple request is dangerous just for making it. It sounds as if dom #2 is a bit jealous and wants to scare you off for his own agenda. I'd ignore that part and go to your meeting keeping in mind that you are still in control of your own destiny and you can still say yes or no as the mood and inclination strike you.

Good luck!


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RE: hair - 12/31/2008 8:39:47 AM   
susie


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As someone who was new to BDSM when I met my Master online I do understand how exciting the whole thing is. I would never advise against arranging to play on the first meet as I did that and it worked perfectly (note there were all sorts of precautions in place before play). However I would never suggest that you agree to any permanent change, mark etc until you are sure about the relationship. Yes your hair will grow back but how will you feel if you go through that on the first meet and then he drops you.

Interestingly one of Masters "fantasies" was to shave his slave. When he had to shave my head (due to hair falling out anyway from cancer treatments) he was more scared than I was. It took ages because he kept asking if I was sure.

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RE: hair - 12/31/2008 8:51:06 AM   
Lashra


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Status: offline 		As a Dominant I would never require something like this of a slave I had not met face-to-face and knew for sometime. Relationships and bonds do not form over night. You may meet him and there maybe no chemistry at all. Sometimes it takes a while for a relationship to form. My advice is tell him no until you know him better and are SURE that he is the Master for you. If he respects you he will accept that answer. It seems he wants you to "prove" your submission to him, you can do that in other ways without cutting your hair or any other body modifications until you KNOW he is the one for you.

Good luck,
~Lashra


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RE: hair - 12/31/2008 12:33:56 PM   
bratnwranglers


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Status: offline 		i agree with most of the posts prior to my own...i know some Master's do require some sort of body motification, whether it be a tattoo, piercing, or even cutting your hair off, but to me that should not be a requirement for the first meeting!!! Thats a serious thing to do, while cutting your hair off might not be as serious, it very well could not grow back, or grow back in very light or in spots, and you will forever regret your decision, especially for a play meeting, to me something like that should be held for something more long term... just if you were dating someone in the vanilla realm, if before the first date, he requested the same thing...would you? or are you only considering it because it is someone declaring to be a "Master" and you are following the urge to submit to Him??

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RE: hair - 12/31/2008 2:14:06 PM   
lilgirl2008


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Status: offline 		what seems crazy to me is submitting to someone you have never met. Cutting off your hair which you say is a big part of you for someone you hardly know. That does seem a bit odd to me.

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RE: hair - 12/31/2008 2:20:13 PM   
sambamanslilgirl


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if a man (they haven't earned the title dom/master in my book yet) cannot meet me as i am, then there will be no meeting at all. i don't "submit" to someone's request on how i should dress and/or wear my hair.

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RE: hair - 12/31/2008 7:38:11 PM   
laura2161


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quote:

ORIGINAL: DesFIP
If this isn't a classic example of sub frenzy I don't know what is.


I agree completely. And on top of that she is going to let another man who she does not know beat her?...She's said a few times in this thread that shes a masochist so it's okay, but damn OP, think with your head and not your other body parts. Im a masochist as well but I still use common sense and do not allow strangers to beat me. Shesshhh. - just shakes head-

To the OP- You are 54...Think like a mature adult. Why do some lose all common sense when 'finding bdsm'?


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RE: hair - 1/1/2009 4:59:09 AM   
bamagirl4u


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Status: offline 		Meet Him, in a safe place since you have never met Him yet, see how the chemistry goes and go from there.  Make sure He is as real as you are with His committment.   Changing your appearance to suit a stranger does not seem like a good idea to me.   I am funny about my hair, if He liked me with it when He met me online-- well-- I would have serious doubts about His sincerity to alter me.

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RE: hair - 1/1/2009 6:17:11 AM   
newleafintx


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Status: offline 		To All Who Have Posted : Thank you all for your time, consideration and opinions.
As an update, I called Master and told him about my posting this question. He has become very upset with me for asking this question without discussing this with him first. Please understand that this hair thing has been an ongoing discussion with us for two months. The problem that ocurred because of the other Master getting involved resulted in quite a few personal emails between the two of them ,which they allowed me to be privy to. I learned a lot about the positive way my master felt about me from them.
I should not have posed this question without permission. Master is very strongly considering dismissing me , at present he is thinking about it. I must wait until he decides. I want to publicly thank eveyone for their opinion. I want to publicly apologize to my Master for not asking permisson to do this first, in any case I have learned a valuable lesson from this.  

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RE: hair - 1/1/2009 7:31:49 AM   
DesFIP


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Status: offline 		You still haven't heard anything anyone here has said. Why hasn't he agreed to meet you yet? Why does he make it nearly impossible for you to meet him? Look at his requirements: a professional hairdresser who can use a straight razor who is also willing to commit assault and battery on a customer. This isn't something you can find by calling up salons, no professional would be willing to do this.

So what is the result of you not being able to find someone who fulfills his impossible requirements? He doesn't meet you. Which is just what he wants because he knows you wouldn't commit to him in real life, probably because he's underage.

And Dom 2 is suddenly exchanging lots of emails with Master 1? Dom 2 is an alter ego of Master 1. They are the same person ffs. No dominant male is willing to kowtow to another dominant male in order to be allowed to exchange emails with some unknown sub.

Demand he meets you immediately for coffee or stops wasting your time. Unless you're willing to go on like this until he gets bored and stops chatting to you.

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RE: hair - 1/1/2009 7:42:11 AM   
sambamanslilgirl


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Status: offline 		why am i hearing Pink Floyd's Run Like Hell in my head when i read your response?

look, op, BDSM doesn't stand for Brains Don't Seem (to) Matter!

WAKE THE "BLEEP" UP?!?!  please get a frickin' clue before it's too late! and what, tell me, have you learned that was so positive about this guy (who doesn't deserve the right to the title of master) that you're still willing to cut your hair for him?

if he wants to dismiss you, look at it as a blessing in disguise ...i believe it's the best thing he's doing for you. 

if you still want to serve a man like him, go ahead and cut your hair for him. good luck but kindly do us a favor and not post a "oops i made a mistake how do i end this bad relationship" thread in the near future.

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RE: hair - 1/1/2009 7:50:04 AM   
RainydayNE


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quote:

ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

look, op, BDSM doesn't stand for Brains Don't Seem (to) Matter!



omigosh that's wonderful :D

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RE: hair - 1/1/2009 7:50:27 AM   
newleafintx


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Status: offline 		Sir, Actually I have taken into careful consideration everything that has been said here. However, as I have not supplied the entire two month history of what has transpiered all these opinions are based solely on the question at hand and not upon the entire story. As far as your assumption about the Master #2 being an alter ego that is very incorrect. That man approached me from another site, concerned that my master might be dangerous. My master had no knowledge of my being on that site, he had given me permission to be creative in my search for a haircut.  I gave the man my private email address because without a paid subscription I could not communicate with him. He talked a lot, but in the end I felt he was trying to steal me from my master. Anyway it is a long story but this was not an alter ego.
As an aside I DID find what I feel was an alter ego and that was an interesting bit of exchange.
As far as my master being underage, that also is not the case. I have actually googled him up and know much about him that He does not know I know. AAARGH! At any rate all this is likely to get me dismissed so the whole thing has been a wasted exercise of futility.

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RE: hair - 1/1/2009 8:11:51 AM   
bamagirl4u


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Status: offline 		So your "Master" is angry at you for posting this question?? And he is thinking of dismissing you?? Sounds to me like he is not a master at all, just a control freak that thinks he can make you do something altering and drastic just because he can.  You should really re-think this relationship, imo, if He won't even meet you what differnce does it make if you cut your hair or not.  Are you not seeing red flags waving right in front of your face?  Just because you are a sub does NOT mean you are his puppet!! Good luck...

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RE: hair - 1/1/2009 8:17:21 AM   
sambamanslilgirl


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quote:

ORIGINAL: RainydayNE

quote:

ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

look, op, BDSM doesn't stand for Brains Don't Seem (to) Matter!



omigosh that's wonderful :D


i have my moments

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...announcing Mr. & Mrs. British Petrol ...yeah, marrying into oil is slick business...

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RE: hair - 1/1/2009 8:32:28 AM   
DarkSteven


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quote:

ORIGINAL: bamagirl4u

So your "Master" is angry at you for posting this question?? And he is thinking of dismissing you??


If he's been talking online for two months with no meet, either he or she is a wanker.  My money's on him.

And he's freaking out because she just laid out his private fantasy before everyone.  His deepest fear now is that she'll tell everyone what his handle is.  Right now, he's trying to distance himself from her as fast as possible, and "dismissal" is part of it.

If in fact he CAN dismiss someone he's never met and has been talking to online for only two months.  The requirements for ownership seem to have gotten lax.


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The small-breasted ones want larger breasts. The large-breasted ones want smaller ones. The straight-haired ones curl their hair, and the curly-haired ones straighten theirs...

Quit fretting. We men love you."

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RE: hair - 1/1/2009 8:52:45 AM   
susie


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quote:

ORIGINAL: newleafintx

Sir, Actually I have taken into careful consideration everything that has been said here. However, as I have not supplied the entire two month history of what has transpiered all these opinions are based solely on the question at hand and not upon the entire story. As far as your assumption about the Master #2 being an alter ego that is very incorrect. That man approached me from another site, concerned that my master might be dangerous. My master had no knowledge of my being on that site, he had given me permission to be creative in my search for a haircut.  I gave the man my private email address because without a paid subscription I could not communicate with him. He talked a lot, but in the end I felt he was trying to steal me from my master. Anyway it is a long story but this was not an alter ego.
As an aside I DID find what I feel was an alter ego and that was an interesting bit of exchange.
As far as my master being underage, that also is not the case. I have actually googled him up and know much about him that He does not know I know. AAARGH! At any rate all this is likely to get me dismissed so the whole thing has been a wasted exercise of futility.


I have so many questions from this that I need to clarify what is going on so here are a couple

1. The 2nd Dom contacted on you on the other site because he was concerned that this "Master" of yours might be dangerous. How did he know who your Master is?

2. How can you be dismissed from a relationship that is as yet not a real one. Your only contact has been online and I assume the phone. What happens if the moment you meet you decide there is nothing there and you are not interested in him.

3. What if when you meet you go ahead with cutting off your hair to satisfy his fantasy and he leaves having got what he wanted.

There does seem to be a lot of fantasy coming from one side of this.

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RE: hair - 1/1/2009 9:03:56 AM   
califsue


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All I know based on what you have written that IF dimisses you THANK YOUR LUCKY STARS!!! This has RED FLAGS all over it!!! You don't seem to be paying attention to any of the concerns expressed by the other posters. 

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RE: hair - 1/1/2009 9:14:22 AM   
newleafintx


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Status: offline 		Maam , in answer :
1. Actually that is EXACTLY what I asked the man. I thought he might know something I did not. He did not know my master and was basing his assumption merely on the ad as I had presented it.
2.I supposed by being dismissed at this point one would have to say that the relationship would not go forward from here, with no futher communication, and without having met. .
3. We have in fact dicussed this. He has assured me, and this was from a live conversation so I could tell there was  a sincerity , that would not be the case. Of course it is a gamble, but then I have been known to play the lottery so I understand that in a gamble sometimes you win , sometimes you lose.
4. Please understand that from all of my communication I LIKE my master. The other guy raised such a stink that I was just curious about what others thought. Hence this post, which has been VERY insightful..

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