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RE: Judging Based On Grammar Capabilities - 1/3/2009 1:03:34 PM   
NorthernGent


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I find a strong correlation between creative thinking and good grammar.



Example?

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RE: Judging Based On Grammar Capabilities - 1/3/2009 4:11:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm not sure if anyone else mentioned this or not, I read a portion of this thread not all.

Generally, when I post up here I'm tired, and can't sleep. So, I assume, some of the other posters do the same thing, and obviously a person up for 18 hours is not in a peak mental state. Also, this is a forum, not a writing assignment, so if I'm tired and want to ramble in a half conscience state, because my brain won't shut down, then I'm going to write. Personally, there are only a couple of people on here I avoid and it isn't because of grammar, it is because everything they say is stupid whether the sentence structure were perfect or not, the result would be the same.

However, most of what people complain of is form, not function, while form may help facilitate the function, ignoring the function, because of form, is an even greater error of thought. So, to each his own I guess there is an ignore button. I've only used for one person, and that is because there was no function, just blabbering about nothing.

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RE: Judging Based On Grammar Capabilities - 1/3/2009 11:51:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you REALLY need an example...how about...ummm...Gulliver's Travels?

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I find a strong correlation between creative thinking and good grammar.



Example?

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RE: Judging Based On Grammar Capabilities - 1/4/2009 2:28:44 AM   
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If you REALLY need an example...how about...ummm...Gulliver's Travels?

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

I find a strong correlation between creative thinking and good grammar.



Example?



I'm not convinced this board is inhabited by 18th century authors. Where are you going to draw the line in terms of what constitutes 'good grammar'? I mean, you may have studied English Language at University - I may have knocked it on the head at 15 in preference of other subjects. Yet say I chose to study subjects that demand independent thinking rather than following the grammar rules? I suppose grammar usage doesn't tell the story, but content would give a clearer picture.

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RE: Judging Based On Grammar Capabilities - 1/4/2009 2:37:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		Because this forum comes from across the world, I can understand everyone not having correct grammar skills all the time.  With that said, hell, I doubt I use them all the time as well.  I try not to judge anyone based on their knowledge of the english language--sometimes it feels like 3 languages combined in one!  I guess it just doesn't bother me as much as it does some.  If it bothers anyone that much, I would just pass it by.  No need in letting it ruin your day...
*Disclaimer* The above message may or may not be grammatically correct...roflmao

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RE: Judging Based On Grammar Capabilities - 1/4/2009 12:05:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, OK, we're going around in circles now, because I said I believe there's a correlation between creative thinking and good grammar.  I've also said that I know and respect people with imperfect grammar.  So it's not a 100% correlation, but it's one I notice over and over.

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I suppose grammar usage doesn't tell the story, but content would give a clearer picture.

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RE: Judging Based On Grammar Capabilities - 1/4/2009 2:46:30 PM   
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*Disclaimer* The above message may or may not be grammatically correct...roflmao


I think CM should make the above Disclaimer compulsory to all non English language speakers and dyslexics to add on their sig tag line.




But I’ll volunteer for it for now if bamagirl4u kindly gives me permission to use it… 


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RE: Judging Based On Grammar Capabilities - 1/4/2009 8:20:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Firefox is an idiot, in some cases. I have it too, and the spell checker is why I installed it on my PC. HOWEVER, it now frequently tells me words that I know are spelled correctly, are incorrect, and when you spell things like Wal*mart, and say add it to the dictionary, the addition isn't remembered like in other spelling programs. It also calls words like don't mis spelled, because it refuses to recognise the apostorphy t in the words. And no matter how many times I have hit add to dictionary on FF. it will still tell me any apostrophe t letters are spelled wrong.


It's also starting to single out certain parts of words as wrong, like wa in was, will be underlined in red as wrong, Or wro in wrong, will be underlined.

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I use FireFox which tells you when you make a mistake

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RE: Judging Based On Grammar Capabilities - 1/4/2009 8:23:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		LOL My teenage years were technically way way over by time I got our very first computer. We didn't get one until 2002. I consider teenage years, to be 13 14 15 16, etc ect, so at 19 almost 20 I was way beyond teen years.

It's also called text speak and it's handy for using on your mobile phone, or any place else where words are limited to a set amount, and it's 10 cents a message.
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Leetspeak, that's right! Thank you! And I also agree that by the time your teenage years are over, you should have become comfortable with the idea of fully typing out words such as "you" and "to", no matter how strenuous it may be! 

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RE: Judging Based On Grammar Capabilities - 1/5/2009 1:41:45 AM   
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I think CM should make the above Disclaimer compulsory to all non English language speakers and dyslexics to add on their sig tag line.





My english is not good...but I saw native english/american people writing...and some were really bad.
(they were nice people...and I didn't mind..I read typonese)

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RE: Judging Based On Grammar Capabilities - 1/5/2009 3:31:43 AM   
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*Disclaimer* The above message may or may not be grammatically correct...roflmao


I think CM should make the above Disclaimer compulsory to all non English language speakers and dyslexics to add on their sig tag line.



Reposted.
Cool.  People can all have 'groovy' little stars and tattoos next.
 
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RE: Judging Based On Grammar Capabilities - 1/5/2009 4:00:17 AM   
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Well, OK, we're going around in circles now, because I said I believe there's a correlation between creative thinking and good grammar.  I've also said that I know and respect people with imperfect grammar. 


Ironic you say that seeing as people suffering with dyslexia and word blindness are known for their creative thinking, very often artistic etc

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RE: Judging Based On Grammar Capabilities - 1/5/2009 4:33:32 AM   
Kana


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I am going to take a crack at this
Something I can do because I think I am the person that the OP was talking about.
(And if so, you were off base. My comment was on the content, not the grammar)

I am dyslexic
Lets get that out front right out of the gate.
Plus I suck at punctuation and am a self taught finger typer.
Something about keyboards kills me, all the letter's have the same square key
Typing is what I do poorest

I don't much care what anyone spells like, that's none of my business and this is a public forum which means its wide open,
Which is something that I love.

For me, and this is just for me,
I try and make sure what I have written is correct.
I think it says something about me as a person
Am I willing to take a few extra seconds and see that something is done properly
Am I detail oriented,
Is making a good impression, especially the first, something that I care about
Do I give enough of a shit to do a task correctly?

JMHO but I think taking the time to do these things shows respect, for both the reader and myself.


Could I do this on my own.
Nope.
Thank god for spell check and dictionaries.
And anyone who knows me will tell you I workshop everything I write on a professional or academic level.

As for others,
Should the person under discussion put a line in their signature saying they suffer from a serious illness in dyslexia?
I don't know,
That depends on whether they care what others think.
Because let us be real, this is the world we are talking about and it's an imperfect place
You bet there are going to be people who judge.
Fair?
Nope, but nobody said the world, or the net, was fair.
Others will understand
And in the end, the way others view the dyslexics will say nothing at all about the one with dyslexia but tell the world a whole lot about the person judging them.

All that said, I love one point the OP made
When people of any kind, disabled, dyslexic or not, try and reach above themselves, transcend and take a risk, put themself out there and open to criticism in order to grow...
I applaud their courage


as always comments reflect only the view of the writer blahblahblahandallthatotherlegalbullshit that weallgrowsousedtohearing

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RE: Judging Based On Grammar Capabilities - 1/5/2009 5:37:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: bamagirl4u

*Disclaimer* The above message may or may not be grammatically correct...roflmao


I think CM should make the above Disclaimer compulsory to all non English language speakers and dyslexics to add on their sig tag line.



Reposted.
Cool.  People can all have 'groovy' little stars and tattoos next.
 
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I hope no yellow stars

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RE: Judging Based On Grammar Capabilities - 1/5/2009 4:50:03 PM   
dreamysubmale


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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

quote:

ORIGINAL: dreamysubmale

quote:

ORIGINAL: bamagirl4u

*Disclaimer* The above message may or may not be grammatically correct...roflmao


I think CM should make the above Disclaimer compulsory to all non English language speakers and dyslexics to add on their sig tag line.



Reposted.
Cool.  People can all have 'groovy' little stars and tattoos next.
 
the.dark.
 
 


I hope I didn’t offend anyone…was trying to add some humor with a little touch of sarcasm.

And in case you can’t tell, English isn’t my native language.  
 

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