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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/15/2009 12:54:16 PM

allthatjaz

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ORIGINAL: lronitulstahp

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Want to have no will, no rights, no decisions, be left chained in the basement 24/7 ok is this even possible in reality for the majority?

i wanted this, then i realized i live in Florida....no basements.

i don't see a huge stretch with the statement quoted above.

As far as i see it, much of wiitwd is not about "the majority". It's about finding what works for one's own happiness, and living life as you see fit, without harming or violating the rights of others.

Many people would be aghast and appalled to find that grown men and women consent to being OTK spanked by their partners when they need correction for bad behavior...but on the scale of kink, that's fairly minor. It's all about an individual's opinion of what is over the top or too extreme.

~slut in a glass house

And of course your right

Is it possible there is a coloration between those who wont enact there fantasies and those who watch a lot of soap box tv such as east enders or friends?
Many of us have replied to this question along the lines of 'lets separate fantasy from reality' however, some have gone on to admit that they get off on such a fantasy but wouldn't play this out for real. Are they the same sort of people that watch fantasy tv?
We actually work within a very small box of what is acceptable or not (perceptions and peer pressure) within the BDSM community and for those of us who dare to step out of this box there is often very strong opinion expressed by the masses.

Just thoughts...

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/15/2009 2:05:45 PM

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I admit to a morbid curiosity, especially when things are hinted but not explained. The girl whose fetish was "so extreme no one could ever handle it" pushed me to the point of asking, and pursuing conversation. When i finally got the answer - that she wanted to live on, as in only digest waste materials from her mistress, it was disappointing. I can't say i am disgusted or even really overly squicked by the crazy things (to me) that other people want to do. I do tend to get into that "how is that going to work" mentality which sucks all the fun from the fantasy.....

I guess my biggest thought is to how the body works. Neutering is a fine idea, but depending on the age, i wonder how it will affect the body with a change in hormones etc... I don't think alot of people consider what impact these fantasies must have on their everyday lives, future, outside relationships, etc...or maybe they do and that is why they keep these are fantasies and don't follow through on the ideas

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/15/2009 2:12:21 PM

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Yes many times i feel compelled to ask, are you serious, but i never do. Everyone has their fantasies and the type of kink they have or fantize to have. My fantasies don't come near most of the things I seen people speak about, and I am okay with, which is what counts in my life.

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/15/2009 2:23:02 PM

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Occasionally I see something over the top but I have never been compelled to write. When I read profiles I usually read those written by submissive females. They tend to focus on everything they won't do rather than some outlandish thing they are looking for.

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/15/2009 2:26:04 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: lronitulstahp

quote:

Want to have no will, no rights, no decisions, be left chained in the basement 24/7 ok is this even possible in reality for the majority?

i don't see a huge stretch with the statement quoted above.

As a weekend, there's nothing wrong with this, I've done similar things...

As a way of life, this is completely obsurd. What do you do if 3 weeks in you have a mental breakdown and change your mind... but with no will, rights or decisions... you wouldn't have a safe word... if you have a safe word, then you... you aren't what you are pretending to be... Even when done as a weekend play visit, a large part of the mind fuck is a fantasy...

Truly fulfilling the above quoted request is a crime... truly wanting to be the object of that crime is mentally unstable to be polite...

But fantasizing about it is probably a lot more normal than the vanilla world is willing to admit... and enacting this fantasy in a limited timeframe with some prenegotiated boundaries is just a lot of damn fun...

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/15/2009 2:27:54 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: allthatjaz

quote:

ORIGINAL: lronitulstahp

quote:

Want to have no will, no rights, no decisions, be left chained in the basement 24/7 ok is this even possible in reality for the majority?

i wanted this, then i realized i live in Florida....no basements.

i don't see a huge stretch with the statement quoted above.

As far as i see it, much of wiitwd is not about "the majority". It's about finding what works for one's own happiness, and living life as you see fit, without harming or violating the rights of others.

Many people would be aghast and appalled to find that grown men and women consent to being OTK spanked by their partners when they need correction for bad behavior...but on the scale of kink, that's fairly minor. It's all about an individual's opinion of what is over the top or too extreme.

~slut in a glass house

And of course your right

Is it possible there is a coloration between those who wont enact there fantasies and those who watch a lot of soap box tv such as east enders or friends?
Many of us have replied to this question along the lines of 'lets separate fantasy from reality' however, some have gone on to admit that they get off on such a fantasy but wouldn't play this out for real. Are they the same sort of people that watch fantasy tv?
We actually work within a very small box of what is acceptable or not (perceptions and peer pressure) within the BDSM community and for those of us who dare to step out of this box there is often very strong opinion expressed by the masses.

Just thoughts...

See this is precisely why I keep all of my "out there super kinky as hell, get your ass arrested in 48 states" kinda shit to myself, or myself and a trusted partner.

I personally dont give a fig what others think about my kinks. I know I need to keep them on the DL so I will not "Judged" by a bunch of kinksters. ~ Which is odd in and of it's self.

I do not care if others veiw my life and my likes as a fantasy world, or that are not (to them) feasible. I know what I like, what I do behind closed doors, and what I have done.

Hell many wouldnt have the balls to carry out half of what trips my trigger.

As long as it is between 2 ( or more) consenting adults and everyone is on board then what biz is it of mine?

There is a hell of a lot of shit I personally wont do.. so that covers the Consenting part.

Gwyn,
Another slut living in a glass house *smiles*

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/15/2009 4:07:52 PM

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1
Also, it's a well-documented sociological fact that when a country's economy goes down, sexually "deviant" behavior goes up.

Sweeeeeet

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ORIGINAL: Evility
Occasionally I see something over the top but I have never been compelled to write. When I read profiles I usually read those written by submissive females. They tend to focus on everything they won't do rather than some outlandish thing they are looking for.

Yeah, my "are you serious" reactions tend to be to the Dommes who want everything and give nothing. When it comes to physical/emotional behavior in a dynamic, there are very few things that strike me as absolute fantasy. People are genuinely capable of things waaay outside the norm.

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/15/2009 4:50:59 PM

yourMissTress

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quote:

ORIGINAL: NCNutCase

quote:

ORIGINAL: lronitulstahp
quote:

Want to have no will, no rights, no decisions, be left chained in the basement 24/7 ok is this even possible in reality for the majority?

i don't see a huge stretch with the statement quoted above.

As a weekend, there's nothing wrong with this, I've done similar things...
As a way of life, this is completely obsurd. What do you do if 3 weeks in you have a mental breakdown and change your mind... but with no will, rights or decisions... you wouldn't have a safe word... if you have a safe word, then you... you aren't what you are pretending to be... Even when done as a weekend play visit, a large part of the mind fuck is a fantasy...

Truly fulfilling the above quoted request is a crime... truly wanting to be the object of that crime is mentally unstable to be polite...

But fantasizing about it is probably a lot more normal than the vanilla world is willing to admit... and enacting this fantasy in a limited timeframe with some prenegotiated boundaries is just a lot of damn fun...

And what if the D/M and s/s in the hypothetical described actually took the time to get to know each other. What if they came to a decision after a period of time that this was right for them? What if the s/s came to fully trust the D/M and knew that no "harm" would come to them i.e. if the s/s had a nervous breakdown the D/M would put an end to those circumstances and seek professional medical help? What if this was just the absolute perfect life for those two people and they did it, lived it, and were happy? Is it still a crime?

You know...most of WIITWD is considered a crime.

Now to the OP

Uh, yeah, I've gotten some whacked out requests, read some absolutely insane profiles. My initial response is WTF? But ultimately, people want what they want. They either want whatever scenario they are describing, or they are getting off on the shock value, or they don't have a clue that if they ask for it enough they just might get it, or hell, anything else you can think of.

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/15/2009 5:06:46 PM

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quote:

Truly fulfilling the above quoted request is a crime... truly wanting to be the object of that crime is mentally unstable to be polite...

Priceless !!
I see from your profile you enjoy whipping, caning and spanking. Did you know that whipping, caning or spanking someone is assault.....a crime?

quote:

As a way of life, this is completely obsurd. What do you do if 3 weeks in you have a mental breakdown and change your mind... but with no will, rights or decisions... you wouldn't have a safe word...

One would hope that if someone was going to become involved in this kind of life they would only do so with someone they completely trust. Hopefully said person would notice if there was a problem occurring and act upon it. Even if you don't have a safe word you can say 'theres a problem'. Any Dom worth his salt would listen to the problem and act accordingly.

~GR~
I am sometimes shocked by what people fantasise about, mention in their profiles but i never stop to wonder are they serious. I assume they are if they have written it and well who am i to judge or question their choices.

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/15/2009 5:10:41 PM

LookieNoNookie

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ORIGINAL: CatdeMedici

Are you serious?

I feel compelled to respond.

(I'm almost never serious...unless of course I am...at which point...ya jest cain't never knowed :)

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/15/2009 5:12:01 PM

DominaSmartass

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Yes, all the time. I don't often actually ask or send unsolicited emails to them but if someone were to message me with something obnoxious, I definitely go on a "WTF? Are you serious?" Rampage. And I get some really crazy messages.

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/15/2009 5:19:22 PM

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In the original quote I responded to it was stated "be left in a basement..." Which would prevent a caring Dom to take him/her to proper medical treatment... And good luck finding a psychotrist that would come see him/her and not immediately release him/her and have the Dom locked up... In my previous post I clearly covered the opportunity to create a safe/limited version of the extreme that is being questioned...

You also got me that much of what we do is illegal... but I will boldly argue against anyone that compares a spanking to locking and leaving someone in a basement with no "will, rights or decisions"... on a moral arguement, they are worlds apart... and any Dom worth his salt would recognise dehumaning someone to such a degree as a way of life is harmful to the 'slave' to an unacceptible degree...

quote:

ORIGINAL: NCNutCase

But fantasizing about it is probably a lot more normal than the vanilla world is willing to admit... and enacting this fantasy in a limited timeframe with some prenegotiated boundaries is just a lot of damn fun...

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/15/2009 5:33:14 PM

aravain

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ORIGINAL: pixidustpet

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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

I saw on a different website a dom that wanted a slave that would be naked, shaved head, a breader, with a few months off in between babies. She was expected to breast feed all who wanted from her anytime anywhere, any children and him. also, home schooling the kids and being available sexually to him anywhere. I thought How would this work with kids? How exactly would this fantasy scenario work in real life?

i agree with you...

but then i saw the typo "breader" (which is the type i would do also!) and my brain tangented....

what would she bread? cause... after two carpetmice running about in toddler years, and being obligated to bare boob for whoever wants a bit of liquid refreshment, i'd be craving breaded testes on toast...preferably HIS.

kitten, who is definitely off in the head.

Thanks for that XD You provided a muchmuchmuch needed gigglefest

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/15/2009 5:46:06 PM

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I just read them, shrug my shoulders and tell myself "more power to em" and I click onto the next profile. It's their life, not mine and really doesn't matter to me. I've never seen any reason to msg people and ask them about it.

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/15/2009 6:00:59 PM

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My property is only chained in the basement on occasion. The rest of the time she is mastered 24/7, including when and what she can drink, eat, when she can smoke or use the restroom. She is not allowed on furniture, and is usually on the floor at my feet or beside me. When I have to go to a client site she waits in the car. She serves me from her knees, and is treated as a valuable piece of property. I determine everything .

Now what you are talking about there are a very few that could handle the chained and such 24/7, and treated harshly all the time, but very, very few.

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ORIGINAL: CatdeMedici

Want to have no will, no rights, no decisions, be left chained in the basement 24/7 ok is this even possible in reality for the majority?

< Message edited by OrionTheWolf -- 1/15/2009 6:01:32 PM >

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/15/2009 6:04:48 PM

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i honestly can say i dont recall sending a WTF email about a kink. i have sent them to sensaul doms that want submissives with few to no limits. my silly behind still wants to know what good one of those would do them? i really wanna know if people's heads are screwed on tightly in the ethic and mental department.

as a fellow glass house occupant, i have no right or reason to even think of asking why for, how come on kinks. i actually do all i can to turn fantasy into agendas and realities. with careful planning so much is possible.

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/15/2009 6:10:46 PM

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ORIGINAL: NCNutCase

In the original quote I responded to it was stated "be left in a basement..." Which would prevent a caring Dom to take him/her to proper medical treatment...
quote:

Why would it? Any Dom worth his salt would be frequently checking on his sub. He may put a baby monitor in the room so he can see whats going on, he may even put some sort of cam in the room so he can see whats going on.

quote:

And good luck finding a psychotrist that would come see him/her and not immediately release him/her and have the Dom locked up... In my previous post I clearly covered the opportunity to create a safe/limited version of the extreme that is being questioned...

What makes you think that as soon as there is a real problem the Dom would not release her himself? What makes you think he would leave her chained up in the cellar waiting for a doctor? Why would a Dom let it get to the dtage where she needed medical help? In my opinion you are being a little dramatic.

quote:

You also got me that much of what we do is illegal... but I will boldly argue against anyone that compares a spanking to locking and leaving someone in a basement with no "will, rights or decisions"... on a moral arguement, they are worlds apart... and any Dom worth his salt would recognise dehumaning someone to such a degree as a way of life is harmful to the 'slave' to an unacceptible degree...

It's still a crime whatever way you look at it. You may feel it's worse than being beaten but i know some people who would disagree with you. Such a way of life COULD be potentially harmful to someone yes. But what makes you think that both parties have not weighed up, discussed, researched the risks and decided to go ahead anyway. Who are you / we to say that anyone doing this is mentally unstable? Who are you to judge what others do consensually?

quote:

ORIGINAL: NCNutCase

But fantasizing about it is probably a lot more normal than the vanilla world is willing to admit... and enacting this fantasy in a limited timeframe with some prenegotiated boundaries is just a lot of damn fun...

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/15/2009 6:25:41 PM

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Thanks misst, you typed out my questions and thoughts exactly.

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/15/2009 6:28:02 PM

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ORIGINAL: NCNutCase

In the original quote I responded to it was stated "be left in a basement..." Which would prevent a caring Dom to take him/her to proper medical treatment... And good luck finding a psychotrist that would come see him/her and not immediately release him/her and have the Dom locked up... In my previous post I clearly covered the opportunity to create a safe/limited version of the extreme that is being questioned...

You also got me that much of what we do is illegal... but I will boldly argue against anyone that compares a spanking to locking and leaving someone in a basement with no "will, rights or decisions"... on a moral arguement, they are worlds apart... and any Dom worth his salt would recognise dehumaning someone to such a degree as a way of life is harmful to the 'slave' to an unacceptible degree...

quote:

ORIGINAL: NCNutCase

But fantasizing about it is probably a lot more normal than the vanilla world is willing to admit... and enacting this fantasy in a limited timeframe with some prenegotiated boundaries is just a lot of damn fun...

Meh...i dunno. When i think of this sort of scenario, i'm not talking about casual play partners. In a relationship between partners that have a strongly established firm foundation of trust....i still don't see the problem.

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/15/2009 7:06:24 PM

NCNutCase

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quote:

Want to have no will, no rights, no decisions, be left chained in the basement 24/7 ok is this even possible in reality for the majority?

When I read that simple quote, in this conversation, and do not omit any part of it...

Having no 'will, right or decision' signifies the 'slave' being represented would not be allowed to tap out. The 'slave being "left" removes the opportunity for a caring Dom to tap out on her behalf...

In my very first post in this thread I clearly said I see opportunity to offer a washed down version of this safely... and in your above arguments your saying that a caring Dom could wash down the original quote safely... I'm glad we can agree...

The topic of this thread is questinoing the desire/request of fanatical extremes. I think most people who request such extremes are not thinking their fantasies all the way through to practical application. Let's just hope that the people they find are willing to think on their behalf.

I also think that people presenting such fanatical ideas as casual desires create unnecessary opportunity for judgement to healthy people investigating the lifestyle either of personal interest or 'spying' for whatever reason.

I've done 24 hour suspension, left girls chained to a wall overnight, locked in a closet for hours on end, beat them until bloody (although I didn't care for the bleeding), etc, etc... but permanently (suggested by using the word "left") removing any "will, right or decision" is a fanasty based extreme... if the Dom involved allows the fantasy, of absolute removal of "will, right or decision", then I'm sure the scene could go wonderfully for both parties...

My arguement here is against the fanatical extremes, not our ability to create the illusion of such an extreme for mutual pleasures/benefits...

Is there anyone here who has a 'slave' that would completely ignore her/him if she/he sincerely needed/wanted out of the relationship? If you recognise that request/desire/need then you are honoring his/her "will, right or decision"...

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