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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/16/2009 5:43:02 PM

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Being an extremist I get a lot of “chop a titty”, “dehumanize me”, “cage me for life as a breeder” and “fuck/rape my wife against her will” requests. Some of which are genuine and I have explored contact with them to discover they are quite sincere. However, many of the profiles you find online that you would consider to be the “you gotta’ be kidding me” kind are just that. I would say at the very best it is a low ratio that they are serious. It is about as likely they post that stuff out of acute self awareness as it is out of ignorance to the effects and logistics of actually living their extreme desires. However, I know for a fact from personal exposure that,

Some of the “breed slaves” are real and have a history, references and a string of children to prove it.

Some of the “mutilate me” fetishists are real and have V notched ears, bifurcated penises/tongues/nipples etc.

Some of the “dehumanize me” pet/slaves have spent months without speaking and living in kennels or cages. However, despite my exposure to some very eccentric kinksters that were wealthy enough afford almost any fantasy, I have never met one that lived that way for years.

Some of the “no creative will of my own” and "I only want what you want" slaves are sincere. I have even owned one like that because she had so many other positive attributes. She was charming, young and very attractive . . . Ok, ok . . . she was more than attractive, she was stunning and had huge knockers. I couldn't resist. Anyway, I found that personality type to be very trying and require a great deal of work to maintain.

To answer the OP, yes. Some of them are serious some of the time but not all of them are serious all the time.

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/16/2009 6:02:19 PM

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ORIGINAL: NCNutCase

I'm simply some (fairly) level headed guy with a handful of experience in both SM and psychology... and in direct response to the topic of this thread, when I see requests I consider too extreme, I simply move on. But when the topic of discussing these extremes comes up I'm willing to offer my perspective. That's not judging, it's sharing... which is what these forums are for (I think?)

These two statements do not seem to reconcile themselves.

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But in this thread the topic is discussing the idea of extreme requests where it seems (to some) the related risks have not been properly considered. I'm one who is not willing to risk someones long term best interests simply because they were dumb enough to ask me to. Having a conscious gets in the way of my twisted mind quite often...

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/17/2009 6:24:27 AM

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Hey, I claim to be an investing professional, and after the year we just had in the markets, I think that might be generating more skepticism than any other profile comment on here.

But I agree with RS above - the hit rate is quite low for truthfulness, but some are sincere.

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/17/2009 6:29:15 AM

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Once upon a time I was serious :) Then I grew up.
Just as once upon a time I thought that when you fell in love with somone trumpets flared, the sun came out.. birds start to sing... and you're totally happy 100% of the time.

Fantasy's are great, but should be qualified.Would I like to be chained 24/7 in a basement and caged... oh yes. How long for.. I have no idea.. thats the fun for me... how long and how far can I be pushed.. no idea...

Oh.. I also have this odd "Joan of Arc" thing about being tied to a stake and burned.... umm... yeah, we'll leave that one in the fantasy list.

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/17/2009 12:58:17 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

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ORIGINAL: NCNutCase

I'm simply some (fairly) level headed guy with a handful of experience in both SM and psychology... and in direct response to the topic of this thread, when I see requests I consider too extreme, I simply move on. But when the topic of discussing these extremes comes up I'm willing to offer my perspective. That's not judging, it's sharing... which is what these forums are for (I think?)

These two statements do not seem to reconcile themselves.

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But in this thread the topic is discussing the idea of extreme requests where it seems (to some) the related risks have not been properly considered. I'm one who is not willing to risk someones long term best interests simply because they were dumb enough to ask me to. Having a conscious gets in the way of my twisted mind quite often...

Thinking that someone's question is dumb makes me judgemental? I completely disagree... Can you make your point more clear? I don't think I followed you...

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/17/2009 2:23:22 PM

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It is rather easy. You state "But when the topic of discussing these extremes comes up I'm willing to offer my perspective. That's not judging, it's sharing... " but then you say "because they were dumb enough to ask me to. Having a conscious gets in the way of my twisted mind quite often... " you have made a judgment. The judgments is implied that any dissenting opinion comes from someone with a conscious.

Don't get me wrong, I have no problems with judgments, because that is what we all do, but those two statements in the same post seemed rather hypocritical.

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/17/2009 3:18:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

Also, it's a well-documented sociological fact that when a country's economy goes down, sexually "deviant" behavior goes up. You might be seeing more people in search of an escape, instead of in search of a relationship.

oh so those 70% reductions are responsible?
i guess that's why i gave up sociology.....

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/17/2009 3:26:18 PM

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do you find that when you see things in a profile, you just HAVE to write and say--are you serious

Nope.

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Now I am sure the purists will say---YKINMK and leave it alone---but don't you just wonder?

No

If I put in my profile everything that I enjoyed, what I wanted, etc, etc....you can believe that people would be writing me and exclaiming how unbalanced, unethical, strange, and downright disgusting I was.

So.

I don't care one wit what another puts in their profile. I don't care what they like, how they like it, when they like it, or why they like it. It's not my place to tell them that they are not right; or that their kink is so far out there that they are....strange....

Each to their own. That's my thoughts.

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/17/2009 3:37:34 PM

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But in this thread the topic is discussing the idea of extreme requests where it seems (to some) the related risks have not been properly considered. I'm one who is not willing to risk someone’s long term best interests simply because they were dumb enough to ask me to. Having a conscious gets in the way of my twisted mind quite often...

The last sentence was simply added to point out that I often have thoughts, ideas or desires that do not comply with my morals… It has nothing to do with my opinion, or judgement, of the hypothetical people we were discussing…

I don’t see any hypocrisy in the two points you quoted…

The interpretation of the word ‘judge’ is touchy here. Per the literal definition of "to decide upon critically" then I have to admit, to formulate a personal opinion is to judge, and formulating a personal opinion is unavoidable… so yes I judge…

In practical usage I consider a "judgement" to be when I cast my opinion ‘at’ someone or push it at them uninvitedly… An example of this would be to critically contact people whose profiles I feel are irrationally extreme, which I have not done.

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/17/2009 4:13:38 PM

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As one who gets a dozen or so c-mails a week saying negative things.. "are you serious", "so sorry your master treats your this way", or just "LOL".... Just want to say there are probably a whole bunch of not serious ones out there mixed in with those of us who are. It expected those messages to come (although never expected how many would be positive interest!), but they are still a little hurtful. Master sometimes answers them. It never does. It generally just wishes that if they weren't interested they kept their commentary to themselves.

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/17/2009 6:56:50 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: NCNutCase

quote:

But in this thread the topic is discussing the idea of extreme requests where it seems (to some) the related risks have not been properly considered. I'm one who is not willing to risk someone’s long term best interests simply because they were dumb enough to ask me to. Having a conscious gets in the way of my twisted mind quite often...

The last sentence was simply added to point out that I often have thoughts, ideas or desires that do not comply with my morals… It has nothing to do with my opinion, or judgment, of the hypothetical people we were discussing…

I don’t see any hypocrisy in the two points you quoted…

I didn't think you would admit it but.....

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The interpretation of the word ‘judge’ is touchy here. Per the literal definition of "to decide upon critically" then I have to admit, to formulate a personal opinion is to judge, and formulating a personal opinion is unavoidable… so yes I judge…

Right here you do admit it, and that is what I was pointing out.

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In practical usage I consider a "judgment" to be when I cast my opinion ‘at’ someone or push it at them uninvitedly… An example of this would be to critically contact people whose profiles I feel are irrationally extreme, which I have not done.

The rest of us do not have a copy of your personal dictionary. You judged. Admit it and move on. I just noticed your statements did not reconcile. If it makes it easier, everyone judges, and denying it is actually a lie for everyone that says they do not judge.

You seem highly opinionated, just as I am. I just recommend not stating that you do not judge. Take pride in it, as being a discerning individual is a good thing.

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/17/2009 9:26:13 PM

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Seems we are on the minority side of this discussion... we tend towards extremes and like people who do too. We find few profiles here that are over the top and when we do they always turn out to be fakes and frauds...

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/17/2009 9:44:26 PM

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i had some interesting conversations with a person who basically wanted to be used, abused, tortured, disfigured, exposed to diseases and so on and so forth. it was pretty wild and damn near impossible to think someone would actually want this stuff, but it was an interesting diversion for the few conversations we had.
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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/18/2009 5:29:46 AM

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This is one of the most bizarre things I could ever think of.

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/18/2009 9:30:40 AM

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Want to have no will, no rights, no decisions, be left chained in the basement 24/7 ok is this even possible in reality for the majority?

Sounds like a normal corporate job to me.

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/18/2009 2:37:46 PM

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Never talked to someone yet with those waaay out there type wants and fantasies. But I'm sure it's only a matter of time. I don't know why they like those things, but then again, I like things other people might not,. hell, don't we all here? XD

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/19/2009 12:04:28 PM

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ORIGINAL: PanthersMom

i had some interesting conversations with a person who basically wanted to be used, abused, tortured, disfigured, exposed to diseases and so on and so forth. it was pretty wild and damn near impossible to think someone would actually want this stuff, but it was an interesting diversion for the few conversations we had.

You missed the part where they wanted you to kill them off when you have finished torturing them. I engage in some extreme practices at times, and will do a lot to fulfill the fantasy of a consenting, not insane, adult, but there are some things that plain creep me out!

I had one such exchange over a period of weeks with a young lady that wanted to be slowly disfigured by branding, tattoos, etc. (a fairly common request), but then she wanted me to off her. We never actually met, but she had me totally convinced that she was entirely serious about taking her kink to the logical and fatal conclusion, which is why I was so creeped out. I can only hope that she never met the Dom of her dreams.

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/19/2009 3:30:43 PM

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In my experience, it's a basic equation, the more extreme the profile, the less experience... I also agree that FemDom porn hasn't done a lot of favour... so there are a lot of (well, a lot of is perhaps an exaggeration... many? :P) people around with zero experience, fantasising with extreme, unhealthy and even insane practices (I've even heard of a man who wanted to be shot in the chest by his domme, while wearing an anti bullet vest).
Me too, as others, used to try to talk them into their senses, but I've found that it's a lost cause. There will always be (and more and more, as time goes by) people who fantasise with a crazy bitch without feelings, all dressed in latex, torturing them in a dungeon... I simply stopped reading them...
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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/19/2009 4:23:19 PM

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I can accept there are some legit people with legit interests in some extreme kinks.

I'm a Dom with a bold masochisitic streak, and I think it would be awesome to feel the pain of being shot while wearing a proper bullet proof vest... but I think it would just be silly of me to spell out such in a profile. Knowing what I know about SM dating sites such as CM (and many others) there are far too many unexperienced men & women eager to jump head first into extreme kinks without taking the time to thoroughly educate themselves and earn the trust needed to healthily engage in such kinks...

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RE: I feel compelled to ask, are you serious? - 1/20/2009 6:36:49 AM

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A dom is a leader and part of the rôle of leader is protecting those in your care, even if they don't understand they need protection. If you think you're a dom and this doesn't fit you, you're merely a sadist.

I have hard limits and on rare occasions, I've met subs who've come up against them from time to time. For example, a sub wanted her arm broken. To me, this is a variation of people driven to harm themselves, a psychological condition. I refused. She's got more problems than I can cure.

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