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UPSG -> RE: black/racial domination (2/2/2009 9:00:51 AM)
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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1
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ORIGINAL: UPSG
Your comments were predicated not on mathematical logic but sentential or propositional logic. For a deductive argument be valid all premises and conclusions must be true. It is a logical fallacy that something has not happened or does not exist if RedMagic1 has not heard of it.
Dude. For a deductive argument to be sound, all premises and conclusions must be true. For the argument to be valid, each step in the argument must be well formed in the axiom structure and the inference rules. The truth value of the axioms themselves is not relevant to validity. Be careful when throwing big words around on an international message board, because sometimes you're talking to an expert, and the expert can tell when you're talking through your hat.
I believe you are correct about that, in which case I stand corrected. It still holds however that it is a logical fallacy that something can not exist or happen if RedMagic1 has not heard of it.
It is the purpose of logic that one learn how to reason better. Your comments on deductive argument can likely be found online (I would suspect at least) because it is basic to courses in logic. I suspect that's where you found it, seeing as I had to point out to you the grammatical nature of your comments.
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Moreover, the OP was asking a question about real life. In real life, inductive inference and heuristics are key. If young black men, with any frequency whatsoever, did the TOS-able thing you claim, there would be some written record, available through some rape crisis center or police department. Your inability to produce anything except blather indicates that you are blathering.
First off, I never insinuated it was some relatively frequent practice. I made it as a point of example, like a murder case of drug disputes in which a person had their eyes gauged out. That's not frequent, yet it is part of real life and has happened.
What I did suggest in my first post about young, White, women from the suburbs ending up prostituting in the inner-cities and being victimized had nothing to do with dogs. I never stated what I was thinking about. What was in my mind however are a few cases (mind you never brought to the police) I know of young chicks being beaten up (sometimes by Black females because they are white - at least that being the main motive) and gang rapes.
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Bottom line: white women who want to date black men are not risking their lives by doing so. And all your misuse of technical terms isn't going to make it more dangerous to date interracially.
No shit. You can not find anywhere in this thread where that was a premises or conclusion of mine. In fact I believe I pointed that out several times. I have a White mother and Black father, still married, both alive.
I'm just giving my opinion as I see it. There are young Black-American women I have met in college who have traveled into the deep south, namely Mississippi. They tell me there are certain parts of the South (White areas) they still would caution Blacks strolling through without a care in the world. Are they being paranoid? You'll argue there are recorded police cases of Blacks being attacked by Whites. Yet, you can find police records of Whites being physically assaulted, by racial motivations, by Blacks up North. There was one case in particular I remember here in a suburb of Milwaukee maybe last year or so. Since you like police records, it would be interesting to see who has a higher rate of raping the opposite race, White men or Black men, in the United States. Would you care to provide recent data on that?
Had you read and understood my original post - or at least my latter explanations of what I was intending to try and say - you would have grasped that I was partly just offering advise for Little A to be cautious because she seemed to me to not have the cynicism and hardness etched into her face like many people that spend many years in the inner-cities (or at least people that have lots of life experience that builds distrust and even hardness). And I'll point out that I have already acknowledged that I probably have misjudged Little A in that respect.
However, far more learned men than me, have long been of the belief that a person's life experience and constitution can often find etching in persons face or stare. This may not always be true but from my personal experience I have found it often is. Many women that have endured incredibly hard lives, often seem to age faster. I remember seeing a famous photo of the Great Depression where I believe one mother in her 30's, looked as if she was in her 50's. It's been noted that the famous little, green-eyed, girl in Afghanistan, who once had rare and exceptional beauty, has aged extremely hard as a young woman.
Had Little A had a similar etched facial look in her photo as this White woman in the link below, I would figure her to have enough cynicism to easily figure out the men she's around. Of course I'm drawing on assumptions, but so what we all do it.
http://www.milwaukeemagazine.com/currentIssue/full_feature_story.asp?NewMessageID=18817&pf=yes
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