|
UPSG -> RE: black/racial domination (2/2/2009 12:35:31 PM)
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: MadRabbit
quote:
ORIGINAL: UPSG
quote:
ORIGINAL: MadRabbit
Well, wow, I was going to swoop in to play the role of wise, benevolevent Internet mentor (masking, of course, my real intentions of trying to look at the titties of a young submissive poster) and educate the naive girl with a whole host of over-the-top and laughable racial stereotypes, but UPAG has pretty much got that covered.
Was it a racial stereotype in the 1950's in Mississippi that Black men should be careful talking to White women because they could risk lynching from White men? Most White men never lynched a Black man and so far as we can tell Black men have survived conversations with White women - presumably even sexual ones.
Is it a stereotype or unfair of me that I have found, through personal experience, to be careful about White men I choose to drink alcohol around (because from experience I've found some will begin to confide in you their racism)?
I tend to go with whoever matches my own personal experiences. As someone who has spent a good portion of his short life working in professional kitchens and butcher shops with the same low income black people who live in the parts of the city your talking about, RedMagics personal experiences ring far more true to me then yours.
There is a whole host of reasons why we a young girl should be careful dating any man of any race. I would put a substantial amount of money on the conjecture that if the girl has posed the question in the context of another race, everyone would have given her the same lecture about avoiding Internet stalkers. But nobody brings about our own media induced and exaggerated paranoid fears like the "black man" and when a young white girl wanting to date a "black man" is brought up, amazingly everyone feels the need to share warnings and fears of being raped by a fucking pit bull in Oakland by a crack dealer.
I mean, really....are you kidding me?
Let's be fair and cover all the other races.
Avoid people of Arabic dissent because they might be "terrorists".
Avoid white people from the South because they might be ignornant racist hicks who will share the poor girl with pigs after her boat crashes in the river in the boonies.
Avoid Asian men, because....well, they just have small penises and wont sexually satisfy her.
Avoid Latinos, because they are most likely illegial immigrants from Mexico with no social security numbers and will pass the girl around in a gangbang.
That just leaves....
Hmm....
Rich Northern white people from the suburbs.
Gotta stay safe.
Given the statistics on female rape, yes I would suggest a young woman be careful about the males she deals with.
However, Little A specifically stated she was looking for Black male *dominant.* Forgive for not being naive about contemporary American culture especially as it pertains to the most glamorized hyper-masculine figure (i.e. thugs, gangsters) in the Hip Hop world. But I'm assuming she was not referring to a Clarence Thomas but a Tupac Shakur. Quite frankly every White-American woman in the United States could date and or marry Black-American men, it would not bother me.
And neither did I tell Little A to avoid Black men. I cautioned her about her choice given - not biological reasons - current sociological factors going on today. I clearly noted many (at least of Gen X on downward) have loss socio-economic grounds (this is according to social scientists, although it is my personal observation as well) and my generation (at least in my part of the Midwest) has been more influenced by Larry Hoover than Martin Luther King. You don't have to be a gang member or a crack dealer to be influenced by persons of fame like Larry Hoover or by your immediate environment.
I find it interesting violence among Black males is only being associated with Crips and street level crack dealers. First of all, I don't know how it is in California but some of these gang members here in the Midwest are college educated, some prison guards, some have even became police officers, and in the case of well oiled and run machines like Chicago's GD's under Hoover, some even are politically involved. Some of these Black, male criminals are making more money than some of the soldiers in the American La Cosa Nostra. I might add, that not all gang members are bad people. Some are.
Now, my experience as a Black male subject to the ever constant threat of violence in Black-American society has been much different. If your experience is different than so be it.
And I never insinuated any of those stereotypes you suggested about Arabs or Latinos (as I've noted before in another thread I'll likely move to Latin America in the future, and I think few of them would get hostile if I made note of the violence in say... Venzeluan barrios, Brazilian favelas, et cetera). What I did ask you, was it a stereotype in Black-American society throughout 1950's Mississippi that Black males should be careful how they talk to White women lest harm befall them? That's a pretty simple question. I also asked you if you thought it unfair of me that life experience has taught me that I should be careful about drinking with White men unless I know them pretty well?
I'm tired of talking about this. The person that PM'd me was correct that people would get their panties in a twist. Being Mulatto and or Black identified in the U.S., I have no problem with acknowledging the reality of violence and agression throughout the Americas among many dark skinned males (e.g. Mestizos, Mulattos, Blacks). I consider it's causes to be sociological and not biological. Being Mulatto and or White identified in some parts of the world, I have no problem acknowledging the reality of White serial killers in the USofA or of the long history of White supremacy and related violence throughout all the Americas.
Things are what they are. If I'm on the Northside of Milwaukee I just accept and stay aware that certain things are.
|
|
|
|
