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ORIGINAL: Evility
It's refreshing to see evidence that some people actually "get it".

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

Star,

First off, I worked very very hard to put this in terms of "this is why I want what I want" rather than "I want the best".  An imperfect attempt of course but that was my goal.

As such, I didn't write, nor did I imply that pushing someone against their will leads automatically to breaking. 

If I wanted to be alone, that is rather easy but masterbation gets old after a while, I prefer some assistance.  As for me playing protector, that is exactly what I don't want ON SOME LEVEL.  Clearly I love to thump my chest and mount my horse and play white knight.  However, I want someone who could draw a sword so to speak and fight along side me to push this metaphore past its usefulness.  I am not looking to play protector so I can pretend the dark doesn't frighten me.  Frankly, it scares the fuck out me.  The things I am talking about are wrong...and I need to know that she is doing them with a wink and a smile at some level.

For some in this thread that means I am not really dominating her, for others they read something else in all that.  Great, that was my goal, as I didn't want to write a "why I am the coolest" thread.

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

I want to walk with a lioness on the end of my leash, one fully capable of ripping my head off. There is the excitement, there is the challenge, and there lies MY goal, my partner, my woman.

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ORIGINAL: brainiacsub

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

brainiacsub...I see you lurking up there ...What's new?

I'm sorry I haven't been around much. Where have you been? One of us had to get a J-O-B, domi. What with all the demands for midnight anal, somebody had to buy the lube. How can you expect to dominate me if you can't even afford the lube?

You were on to something when you made the distinction between kink and D/s as a lifestyle choice. If more people understood that bdsm activity is kink, and D/s is  a way that people relate to each other based on a matching of opposite personality types, then we could eliminate so much of the confusion. I have spent a year very frustrated on CM looking for a Dominant partner, only to find out that most who claim to be dominant are really just tops. They prefer to play the dominant role during sex and other activities, but they are not in control of themselves, their lives, or their relationships. Being a top gives them a feeling of power and control. Someone like that might say that they want a strong submissive, but in fact they are quite intimidated by such women. They may in fact want a strong, intelligent bottom to play with, but that is different than being a submissive. On the flip side, I'm sure there are just as many Dominant men out there who are just as frustrated in their search for a submissive woman, only to find out that many of these women who claim they are submissive are really bottoms. On this thread and in others they are referred to as fakes, wannabes, conditional submissives, and on and on.

As for me, I am submissive and highly intelligent and very functional and capable. (dominant submissive)...it is just who you are. It is 24/7 for me, even if I never participate in a single kinky activity. D/s is not about sex, it is about power exchange that may or may not include kinky activities. When you have an ignorant top, the last person that they will be compatible with is an intelligent submissive. It just ain't happenin.

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ORIGINAL: heartfeltsub
i know that there are some on the site, yourself included prop who say that you are submissive to everyone, so that makes me wonder why are you with your Master over someone else if your submission is not a choice or doesn't need to be inspired at all.

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domidong quote:

There is no such thing as control...It is a concept that becomes ever more fleeting the older I get.  There are agreements, negotiations and compromise.  Maybe the ones who figure this out are the ones that at least learn to live in a certain harmony within their environment. 

We get what we get.  We get what we allow. It is a foreign concept to many.  Very few take stock of their lives or analyze the weight of their actions and see what direct influences they have had on the world that surrounds them.

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If I wanted to be alone, that is rather easy but masterbation gets old after a while, I prefer some assistance.

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

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...does being submissive to everyone mean that you can not say no to anyone or anyone's request...orig: heartfeltsub

for this slave, it isn't impossible, but saying no isn't the first thing that comes to mind, and in some cases, it isn't even the second or third or fourth or...ever.
 
the immediate reaction is jump, then ask "how high?"---on the way up.  after the knee-jerk reaction has occurred and once the intellect is engaged, it goes about weighing the pros and cons and possibillities of the request---and responds accordingly.  being in this relationship with Master has trained this slave to respond internally with "What Would Master Have His Slave Do?" instead of just reacting in a submisive manner to anyone's requests and dealing with the fallout later.
 
sometimes, the intellectual consideration required in deciding to comply or not is extremely difficult and requires enormous effort...like a daily work-out at the gym, pushing you past what is comfortable.  something you do for the "long-term" benefit, or because you have made a prior commitment...not for the immediate results or knee-jerk reactions.
 
not submitting feels unnatural, "wrong", nauseating and internally grating---like forcing one's self to be dominant over another...or forcing oneself to sit still in a hard folding chair while listening to nails being slowly dragged down a blackboard, over and over and over, all the while in full-term labor with no anesthetic...eating an entire box of dry crackers with no liquid in reach...or sight.
 
well, maybe not EXACTLY, but that's the closest this slave could come to a comparison.
 

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ORIGINAL: Andalusite

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ORIGINAL: heartfeltsub
i know that there are some on the site, yourself included prop who say that you are submissive to everyone, so that makes me wonder why are you with your Master over someone else if your submission is not a choice or doesn't need to be inspired at all.

I was just thinking about this, and I can theoretically appreciate that it could be very special indeed to know that they are having that internal struggle to reserve their submission only for you. Also, they could be in love, or find other ways that they are special, in addition to the D/s.

I've had a lot of submissive men contact me, whose e-mails seem to indicate that they'll submit to anyone with tits and a whip. It makes *ME* feel objectified, and like an interchangeable part, and I've let them know I wasn't interested. I assume that Daddysprop and Beth didn't take that approach when things first got started, but I have no way of knowing, of course.

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Only one thing I would add......

Sometimes those that would appear to be a lioness are in fact only covering up great insecurity and weakness.

Sometimes those that would appear to be a meek rabbit or doe, are in fact, so amazingly strong.

I used to only look for the lioness and ignore the quieter rabbits and does. I found quite by accident that there is alot to be said for a quiet strong little rabbit. Her strength and submission would shame many that would mock her. Her dedication and devotion are amazing. many little lionesses ran at the first sight of my claws and teeth, yet a little rabbit stood and said, "destroy me if it pleases you", even when I tested her. Now I keep an open  mind and appreciate each for their own unique qualities.

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
Knowing that my wishes were being followed two thousand miles away over a request of a friend/previous dominant in a scary time, kind of floored me. Lindsey admitted to me that I owned keary, and that while she knew it was good, it was also kind of sad to her.

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ORIGINAL: marie2

And a general thought:  I didn't think the OP came off as comparing or saying one type was better than another, it just looked like a commentary on a particular preference, and it was written in a way that it celebrated that preference, and explained it, without tearing down anyone else.   

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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
Knowing that my wishes were being followed two thousand miles away over a request of a friend/previous dominant in a scary time, kind of floored me. Lindsey admitted to me that I owned keary, and that while she knew it was good, it was also kind of sad to her.

Empowered people come in many forums... but in my view... adversial is hardly a way to have a long and emhancing relationship with another person.. regardless if they are a rabbit or loiness.

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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

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ORIGINAL: marie2

And a general thought:  I didn't think the OP came off as comparing or saying one type was better than another, it just looked like a commentary on a particular preference, and it was written in a way that it celebrated that preference, and explained it, without tearing down anyone else.   

I agree with this comment!

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ORIGINAL: heartfeltsub
i really liked what you said in the bolded for effect part, it gave me a different perspective that i hadn't thought about. my perspective had always been more what you described in the second paragraph where if anyone would do, then the Dominant is just a arm for the flogger so to speak and who is behind the arm isn't important.

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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
Knowing that my wishes were being followed two thousand miles away over a request of a friend/previous dominant in a scary time, kind of floored me. Lindsey admitted to me that I owned keary, and that while she knew it was good, it was also kind of sad to her.

Empowered people come in many forums... but in my view... adversial is hardly a way to have a long and emhancing relationship with another person.. regardless if they are a rabbit or loiness.