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Tavane -> Do many dominants truly enjoy "service submissives?" (2/9/2009 10:47:44 AM)

I am very submissive, but not into pain or bondage, or licking boots, etc. I just want to be a slave, and do everything for my mistress, including all household stuff, laundry, cooking, etc; and her nails and/or hair if hse wishes, and to be totally dependent on her financially, and to obey her always. It would be exciting to be restrained, but I'd be so attuned to obeying her that I'd not deserve any punishment. My question is, what is in this for the mistress, in terms of pleasure? She has a great life, never needs to lift a finger except to get her slave's attention, and owns the money he earns, and his (former) property, but it would seem to me that most mistresses who achieve immense pleasure from dominating a male, would tend to desire a much more aggressive role, including whatever personally gives them pleasure. I find it somewhat difficult to believe that many mistresses would enjoy my type of slavery, since it's fairly mundane; simply what actual slavery was like for thousands of years, or what most women had to put up with as wives for centuries. There is nothing bizarre about it as a lifestyle, except in our modern age.. It' s just a total power exchange and actual slavery.

It's so incredibly exciting that I don't think I could resist it, but at my age, 61, I don't anticipating finding it, and do envy those who are younger and have these resources.  However, I wonder if mistresses exist who find extreme pleasure in such a total power exchange as the slave does,  or if it's mainly the slave who benefits so much from such a relationship, in terms of happinesss and incredible pleasure. Obviously the slave is there to please the mistress, but I'm wondering if mistresses exist who actually find a fraction of the pleasure from that type of arrangement as the slave; or if it's far more common for mistresses to inflict pain, punishment, extreme humiliation, etc, so they can achieve their pleasure, and find that the idea of having an "ordinary" slave to be pretty boring and not something they are interested in. Since I'm so submissive, I can't imagine getting pleasure out of having a slave, even though the lifestyle benefits are huge, and wonder if mistresses exist who do find adequate pleasure in that.

Tavane



LadyConstanze -> RE: Do many dominants truly enjoy "service submissives?" (2/9/2009 10:54:59 AM)

Am I right assuming that you haven't lived in that kind of life-style relationship? Because as a fantasy it might sound very hot, but of all the subs who apply for something like that, more than 99% are usually flakes and after a short while not interested anymore, often they start to "break" things to get punished, they want more attention, etc.

After a few not so great trials the domme usually gives up and does her own cleaning or hires a cleaner, because she's simply tired of taking that risk anymore. One of the reasons why a lot of pro dommes will screen guys by making them book sessions before, not every "cleaning slave" actually knows how to hold a broom, quite a few of them think standing around and waving a duster is all that is required, no offense to the guys who are into it, but truth to be told, most of you are simply not cute enough to count as decoration or ornaments...



Lockit -> RE: Do many dominants truly enjoy "service submissives?" (2/9/2009 10:55:03 AM)

I have had two relationships like that.  I wasn't into bdsm or even really knew about it, but had two male wive's so to speak.  We enjoyed it... it was right for that moment in time, but time doesn't stand still and many things change.  Like the economy... personal growth and wanting different things in a spouse or life in general.

You mention one thing that I would not enjoy though.  Back in the day I could afford it and it wasn't even a consideration... as they made some money on the side to do with what they wanted... for things I didn't have budgeted for us or whatever.

I would not have a slave that was totally dependent upon me.  I couldn't afford that.  I also tend to think that wanting to be totally dependent upon me as something that could be running from life and I couldn't be with someone not firmly stuck in reality.

But to have someone taking good care of me... someone I enjoyed and took care of in other ways than total financial support... sure... in a heartbeat.



LadyHibiscus -> RE: Do many dominants truly enjoy "service submissives?" (2/9/2009 10:55:34 AM)

"to be totally dependent on her financially"

I suggest you go over to the financial domination thread and read a bit... 



Usako -> RE: Do many dominants truly enjoy "service submissives?" (2/9/2009 10:57:54 AM)

I wouldn't mind having a submissive like that...though the situation honestly sounds boring so said submissive would have to be ok with not being the only man in my life. I'd probably need another submissive for the "fun" stuff. But hey, in my dream situation I have a beautiful house with lots of subs and of course they love to clean! lol



Tavane -> RE: Do many dominants truly enjoy "service submissives?" (2/9/2009 11:30:27 AM)

Thsnks for the replies. I've never lived it. My girlfirends weren't interested in it, though I did have a female friend who would let me do her nails and massage her feet and do her laundry. I could sit on the floor and massage a mistress's feet with warm lotion for hours, and did, though she was just a friend, and she died.  I like the finanical dependence concept, since it makes you totally obedient and a clear reminder that you are her slave. I think it's difficult for a woman to have a romantic relationship with a male who want's the traditional female role, though for people like me, we regard it as the male role, and people should live the roles that they wish, if they can. I just don't think that it would be that exciting in itself for the mistress, in most instances, and in that kind of relationship, I'd want a relationship.  Thanks again.

Tavane



Lockit -> RE: Do many dominants truly enjoy "service submissives?" (2/9/2009 11:36:38 AM)

A service submissive in a relationship you discribe doesn't have to be boring.  Does service submissive mean no personality or interest or suggest that they are boring?  Or is it the kink or painful parts that you think a dominant might miss and therefore be bored?  There are many dominant's and not all are the same.  Some would want the kinky painful things included, some would want something else and some would consider the person before all else.

A man living dedicated to you does not have to be boring and mean that you are the only interest in life that he has.

As for the financial dependency... if the slave had no income whatsoever.. that would be a problem for most.  If he had income and just wanted to be dependent and let her handle it all in some way, there are those that would like that.  To expect to be totally dependent upon her income isn't real realistic for most of us.



MissIsis -> RE: Do many dominants truly enjoy "service submissives?" (2/9/2009 11:37:59 AM)

I would never want someone who wanted to be financially dependent on me.  



CatdeMedici -> RE: Do many dominants truly enjoy "service submissives?" (2/9/2009 11:45:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

quite a few of them think standing around and waving a duster is all that is required


You forgot that they expect to be naked while waving said duster.
 
 
I don't have any problem with a service submissive, IF a good one can be found that could deliver on the service goods--so far all  the ones I have come across--have a hidden agenda.

<edited to qualify the "all">



LadyConstanze -> RE: Do many dominants truly enjoy "service submissives?" (2/9/2009 11:53:07 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: CatdeMedici

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

quite a few of them think standing around and waving a duster is all that is required


You forgot that they expect to be naked while waving said duster.
 
 
I don't have any problem with a service submissive, IF a good one can be found that could deliver on the service goods--so far all  the ones I have come across--have a hidden agenda.





LOL, I forgot a lot of things....

1. They want to be naked or in a maid's outfit
2. Mistress should be in fetish gear
3. Mistress should stand behind them and supervise all the time
4. They actually only want to do "kinky" cleaning, for example dusting the already clean surfaces, not something like actually washing dishes or scrubbing floors

I only met TWO service submissives ever who wanted to give service, the rest of them wanted to play being service submissives



LaTigresse -> RE: Do many dominants truly enjoy "service submissives?" (2/9/2009 12:39:26 PM)

In reading your profile I can see that you already want more than to "just be a pure service slave".



MistressAinCT -> RE: Do many dominants truly enjoy "service submissives?" (2/9/2009 12:49:10 PM)

I could get into a "service only" slave.  That would leave Me more time to devote to My business and other things.  I would be less stressed-which in and of itself is something *I* would be getting out of it.  A less stressed Mistress is a happy Mistress...and I would go as far as to say that a "service only" slave gets something out of it-the happiness and gratitude of the Dominant (provided he or she does a good job [:D]).

However:

I couldn't handle someone being financially dependent on Me especially in this economy, nor could I have someone living with Me and My family (just don't have the space).  What would happen if said slave was sick and had no health insurance?  Who pays for gas, car insurance-food? 

I also couldn't handle someone ELSE'S finances; I know of Dommes who ask for their slave's paychecks then dole out allowances-I have no patience for that arrangement either. 

So if the "exchange" is service for live-in priveleges, I'm afraid I would have to decline.  I'm not sure if this was what the OP had in mind. 




Lockit -> RE: Do many dominants truly enjoy "service submissives?" (2/9/2009 12:53:11 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

In reading your profile I can see that you already want more than to "just be a pure service slave".


Thank you for this... I kept thinking... I recall this name... but I don't recall... now I do. 

I don't want that... no offense to op... I just don't want that.



Voodali -> RE: Do many dominants truly enjoy "service submissives?" (2/9/2009 12:58:56 PM)

I wouldn't mind at all having a service slave, if in fact if he did as I instructed , didn't expect too much in return from me in the way of emotions or sex, and didn't insist on constantly being a naked eyesore. I would happily have one, but the temptation to occasionally smack him would be great, even if pain were a limit, so I think I would tell him that a bit of smacking was part of the package.  You can probably tell from my language that I have not yet had a full time service slave.  It takes me a while to trust anyone enough to let them into my home.  I am actually currently exploring this dynamic, though.
As far as having a relationship with a service slave, I could only do that if all the usual vanilla criteria were met; mutual attraction, chemistry, compatibility, etc.  He would have to have skill in conversation as well as domestic service, and be able to join me on public outings.
If he were dependant on me financially, and I were to make ALL the decisions regarding finances and such, I suspect disaster would ensue. On the bright side, we'd probably both lose those last pesky pounds of fat reserves, and could fit into all the Salvation Army's trendiest fashions. Even though I like the idea, I'd really think it wiser for the boy to be somewhat self-sufficient in that regard.  Perhaps its something that could be worked towards with trust and over time.



thetammyjo -> RE: Do many dominants truly enjoy "service submissives?" (2/9/2009 1:38:19 PM)

May I suggest, Tavane, that you start by just looking for a partner and see what things go?

The idea of being what you describe is not new and is not limited to only men or women but I think it's very rare especially in hard economic times. Probably more likely to be worked up to with a good match.



Madame4a -> RE: Do many dominants truly enjoy "service submissives?" (2/9/2009 1:41:30 PM)

sure.. I enjoy a real service submissive.. they just don't exist.. usually, when someone says this.. and you seem to be no exception... they mean 'service' as the submissive defines it... and that's not service to me... I know what real service to me entails, and you haven't described it...

and it seems you're looking for a partner.. or primary, or wife or GF.. to me, that has little to do with a service submissive



SylvereApLeanan -> RE: Do many dominants truly enjoy "service submissives?" (2/9/2009 1:56:34 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tavane

I am very submissive, but not into pain or bondage, or licking boots, etc. I just want to be a slave, and do everything for my mistress, including all household stuff, laundry, cooking, etc; and her nails and/or hair if hse wishes, and to be totally dependent on her financially, and to obey her always. It would be exciting to be restrained, but I'd be so attuned to obeying her that I'd not deserve any punishment. My question is, what is in this for the mistress, in terms of pleasure?


Except for the bolded portion, this sounds like sheer heaven to me.  This is what I would like to find someday.  However, I don't have the resources to support another adult, and that's not likely to change.  I also want this fantasy slave to come in a drug/disease free, height-weight proportionate, bisexual female body somewhere between the ages of 18 and 40 with 25-35 being ideal. 
 
Someone hand me a mop, I think the unicorn pooped again.



MistressAinCT -> RE: Do many dominants truly enjoy "service submissives?" (2/9/2009 2:00:41 PM)

LOL Sylvere...get the "service" faeries to clean up the crap...



slavekal -> RE: Do many dominants truly enjoy "service submissives?" (2/9/2009 2:07:12 PM)

Don't be so certain that it can't happen for you at your age.  It can.  Ms. Mlicious started dating a much older man she knows from her profession.  The man has become a virtual slave to her, and that word has been mentioned.  he may soon become her second official slave, on a part time basis.  If you go about things right, you can still find a Mistress.



ShiftedJewel -> RE: Do many dominants truly enjoy "service submissives?" (2/9/2009 2:53:26 PM)

See, that's exactly what I'm looking... except that I'm already married and wouldn't be interested in marrying someone else as well.... Ok, I think that made sense.
 
Jewel



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