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JulieElizabeth -> have You ever helped a sub with weight loss? (3/7/2009 8:47:50 PM)

if so, could You please share your success stories?

thanks!



sojourner9 -> RE: have You ever helped a sub with weight loss? (3/7/2009 8:52:40 PM)

Only secondarily.

She was wanting to start working out at the gym to help with her dieting, and asked me for help.   I told her if I did, her gym time was my time, and she was not to miss it without damn good reason.  She agreed, and I worked with her to come up with a suitable routine (cardio, exercises, etc), and then had her journal the results.








JulieElizabeth -> RE: have You ever helped a sub with weight loss? (3/7/2009 10:03:23 PM)

awesome!!  thanks so much for Your reply



kuriouswitch -> RE: have You ever helped a sub with weight loss? (3/7/2009 11:36:00 PM)

Master has been spending the last four months helping me lose weight because i asked him to. He makes sure i eat fruits and vegitables and lots of water ect. I've gone from almost 350 down to 295, all sensibly, from walking and being more active ect. That's my biggest issue, not that i eat badly but that i don't move enough.



DarkSteven -> RE: have You ever helped a sub with weight loss? (3/8/2009 4:52:41 AM)

I have never enforced weight loss, nor would I.  But I HAVE been asked to enforce regular exercise and eating habits.



VeryNastyDom -> RE: have You ever helped a sub with weight loss? (3/8/2009 7:13:49 AM)

I had a sub that was having money and weight problems, not a big one, but she wanted to drop some pounds.  So, she was put on a very strict budget and had to account for every penny.  I got all her receipts and made her cut the junky stuff out of her grocery list and the rest happened as a matter of course.



Christinestill -> RE: have You ever helped a sub with weight loss? (3/8/2009 7:18:34 AM)

i once asked a dominant of mine to enforce healthy "routines".  it really helped me.



JulieElizabeth -> RE: have You ever helped a sub with weight loss? (3/8/2009 7:37:48 AM)

thanks for your feedback E/everyone.  i'm afraid this is the only way i'm going to lose weight is if i'm held accountable by my Daddy in some way



AquaticSub -> RE: have You ever helped a sub with weight loss? (3/8/2009 8:08:06 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: JulieElizabeth

thanks for your feedback E/everyone.  i'm afraid this is the only way i'm going to lose weight is if i'm held accountable by my Daddy in some way


But... just for playing devil's advocate... what will happen to your weight if something should happen and you and your Daddy must part?

We both regard it as better that I learn how to manage my weight on my own so that he doesn't need to worry about what will happen to my health should something, God forbid, happen to him or us. Losing weight is hard and people have to be ready to put in the work.



LaTigresse -> RE: have You ever helped a sub with weight loss? (3/8/2009 8:15:42 AM)

It is hugely difficult......I say this as I find I have finally hit the -30# mark.

I honestly believe that anyone, dominant or submissive, will have to internalize the discipline and take responsibility for it themself, at some point.

I think that a dominant can help, guide, towards that path. But as Aquatic has said, a submissive cannot and should not, make their dominant responsible for their own self control. Otherwise it will not be a permanent life change. And it does have to be a life change. If it isn't you will have a yoyo life.

Also, in my eyes, it is almost as though the sub/slave, is asking the dominant to serve them, rather than take responsibility for their own shit.



subangi -> RE: have You ever helped a sub with weight loss? (3/8/2009 8:32:11 AM)

In my past experience whenever I had to jump on the scale in front of anyone, it was a form of incentive itself.  Years ago, I had a Dom offer to help and it turned out quite successful.  He had me empty all food in my house, then came over and put back what was healthy, took me to the store and bought me food to replace.  He then picked me up for walks in this wooded area, and when I was not going fast enough he smacked me with his belt. I had chores to do around my house,,,such as cleaning the garage, raking, push mowing....all with time frames.  We spoke daily and I had to tell him what i ate.  I was banned from the computer if I strayed from my diet, and one time I super strayed and he brought over this huge banana split and me strip and eat it like a pig until i couldnt take another bite, then i had to explain how feeding at the trough made me feel.  I had great rewards that took place in the dungeon, and it turned out to be highly successful and a fun twist to dieting. 



LaTigresse -> RE: have You ever helped a sub with weight loss? (3/8/2009 8:37:57 AM)

Did you maintain that weight after the relationship ended?



Lordandmaster -> RE: have You ever helped a sub with weight loss? (3/8/2009 9:08:11 AM)

In my case it didn't work.



subangi -> RE: have You ever helped a sub with weight loss? (3/8/2009 9:31:58 AM)

I maintained that weight for a few years, and kept active.  Reminiscing about it helped alot when I lost willpower...that whole experience was sooooo exciting and wonderful.
At this time with the winter and not being active,  I have been feeding at the trough too much, and my favorite meal has been ...buffet!  lol.  I need to get myself into the right mindframe and proceed.  But, I will never forget that diet, and the actual fun I had trying to lose weight. 




JulieElizabeth -> RE: have You ever helped a sub with weight loss? (3/8/2009 10:00:48 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

quote:

ORIGINAL: JulieElizabeth

thanks for your feedback E/everyone.  i'm afraid this is the only way i'm going to lose weight is if i'm held accountable by my Daddy in some way


But... just for playing devil's advocate... what will happen to your weight if something should happen and you and your Daddy must part?

We both regard it as better that I learn how to manage my weight on my own so that he doesn't need to worry about what will happen to my health should something, God forbid, happen to him or us. Losing weight is hard and people have to be ready to put in the work.


Excellent point...



Valyraen -> RE: have You ever helped a sub with weight loss? (3/9/2009 12:04:18 AM)

I'm going to echo what Aqua has already said. When we first got together, she had some extra weight, and while she made some comments about wanting to take it off, her actions (eating junk food, drinking soda and beer) told me that she wasn't ready to change her habits and really commit to losing the weight. At that point, I could have ordered her to change, but without the drive existing within her, all of the orders in the world wouldn't have been effective because it wasn't something that she wanted to do. When she WAS ready, I was more than happy to support her and be an external influence keeping her to her plan, reminding her of her priorities and outright ordering her to keep to her "diet" when she really wanted to stray, but the drive to change had to come from within her for it to be effective, or she would have slipped right back into her old habits when I wasn't around.

Short form, your Daddy can be a help, but if this isn't something that you're committed to, you're only going to stick to it while he keeps the thumbscrews on... and while thumbscrews can be fun, it gets old (for me, at least) to be constantly minding every detail of someone else's life as well as my own.



Jeptha -> RE: have You ever helped a sub with weight loss? (3/9/2009 12:12:59 PM)

subangi, loved your story, because I've always kind of wondered about a scenario like that.

I agree when others have mentioned that the sub should ultimately take responsibility for her/his own health, but I also wonder; wouldn't a diet like subangi's be a learning experience in how to do it?
And a confidence building exercise, as it would demonstrate that she could do it?

What I mean is, the master may have provided the discipline, but it was the sub who did the work. That's one component.

(Moreover; couldn't one teach a sub to discipline herself in this regard? In other words, to internalize good decision making; "because it is good for me, and I choose to take care of myself" , not just "because it will please my dom"...? )

The other component is some food education, like when he threw the double stuffed oreos out on the lawn, or whatever. For instance, I've cut out lot's of really high fat and high carb items from my diet, which didn't require discipline, just a little basic education.

(Note: not claiming to be a diet guru or anything, but I've tried to learn a little about what I eat to find out what works best for me. Again, I don't have experience with helping anyone but myself with a diet, so these are all hypotheticals on my part.)



SailingBum -> RE: have You ever helped a sub with weight loss? (3/9/2009 3:24:07 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: JulieElizabeth

if so, could You please share your success stories?

thanks!


Naaaa they got fat all by their lonesome.  I am sure they can get unfat the exact same way.

BadOne



Huntertn -> RE: have You ever helped a sub with weight loss? (3/9/2009 4:38:32 PM)

I find unless your with them 24/7 its not going to work....at least not fast...but it does get them started..and that in itself is worth it...



Caillin -> RE: have You ever helped a sub with weight loss? (3/9/2009 4:53:59 PM)

My suggestion would be to have a goal that isn't about the number on the scale. Make it some type of play that you want to try, but can't do at your current weight or just haven't tried yet.

Every week you don't make your goal, your punishment is to research an aspect of that type of play.

Basically, your punishment is a reminder of why you want to lose weight, so rather than a punishment, it is a reminder of the reward you are looking for.



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