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RE: Are you REALLY any smarter than a "nilla? - 3/24/2009 2:49:04 AM   
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Calling me stupid as 'some dude willing himself to be female' in a c-mail certainly proves that the OP is definitely not any smarter than a 'nilla. Just plain ignorant in fact.


Stuid is as stupid does. Guess you have just had proof of that Stella.

Interesting way to think "willing himself" gosh if only it was that easy eh?

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RE: Are you REALLY any smarter than a "nilla? - 3/24/2009 2:58:17 AM   
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Calling me stupid as 'some dude willing himself to be female' in a c-mail certainly proves that the OP is definitely not any smarter than a 'nilla. Just plain ignorant in fact.
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RE: Are you REALLY any smarter than a "nilla? - 3/24/2009 3:36:10 AM   
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Or just one big middle one
Gawd it's been so long since I was nearly a statistic...


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RE: Are you REALLY any smarter than a "nilla? - 3/24/2009 4:24:34 AM   
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Would you rather play russian roulette with a gun with a large barrel, or would you rather not play at all?
Would you rather cross the road at a crossing or would you rather never leave your house?



lol cute.  Your counter-analogy is really bad though.

When one crosses the street, they can look both ways, follow the traffic lights, keep in mind the time of day, etc. There's much more info and many things you can do to make yourself safe.

But I think first-encounter hookups are more dangerous oddswise.  The enemy is the lack of information, just like in russian roulette.  Once he has you tied up, you don't really know if he then plans to eat you, or if he then plans to eat you.

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RE: Are you REALLY any smarter than a "nilla? - 3/24/2009 4:43:51 AM   
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Or order take out and watch sports on TV

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RE: Are you REALLY any smarter than a "nilla? - 3/24/2009 8:06:00 AM   
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Calling me stupid as 'some dude willing himself to be female' in a c-mail certainly proves that the OP is definitely not any smarter than a 'nilla. Just plain ignorant in fact.

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Stuid is as stupid does. Guess you have just had proof of that Stella.

Interesting way to think "willing himself" gosh if only it was that easy eh?



I will make no apologies for not coddling foolishness.

For those of you who feel threatened when sense is discussed, do your own thing.  If I made you pause and think for a moment and it has caused you consternation.. I apologize.

"Stella"- if you want to start your own thread about how hard your life is..feel free to do so.  This one is about risk taken in the name of the lifestyle.



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RE: Are you REALLY any smarter than a "nilla? - 3/24/2009 8:08:01 AM   
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I just think we all need to do whatever works for us. No different than investing. We all have different levels of comfort when it comes to risk.

Some may want a nice safe CD. Won't meet someone until they've gotten 10 references and done a back ground check.

Some may take their life savings and go play poker in Vegas to build their retirement. Will meet a complete stranger, in a strange city in a seedy motel.

Most of us are somewhere inbetween the two. As long as people accept the potential consequences, I don't care where they are in there. All I say, don't come whining to me with it doesn't work out the way you hoped. You won't get a lot of sympathy.


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RE: Are you REALLY any smarter than a "nilla? - 3/24/2009 10:18:51 AM   
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I will make no apologies for not coddling foolishness.

For those of you who feel threatened when sense is discussed, do your own thing.  If I made you pause and think for a moment and it has caused you consternation.. I apologize.



I notice that you failed to back up your original statement of beating the odds. Perhaps you would now care to do that to prove your point of "risk taken in the name of the lifestyle" as opposed to risk taken in a normal dating scenario.

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RE: Are you REALLY any smarter than a "nilla? - 3/24/2009 10:31:03 AM   
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If I made you pause and think
You made me think that assertion is not a valid replacement for argument.  Does that count?


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RE: Are you REALLY any smarter than a "nilla? - 3/24/2009 10:32:03 AM   
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There are those who cliff dive....and those who don't....Me, I dive....head first!...and enjoy the ride!..Most of us fall into the middle and caution is taken to some degree...although once in awhile we all take the chance....we simply can't help ourselves!....
If we weren't adventurous we wouldn't be here!...To think that charm and guile cannot get someone to do what they normally wouldn't is to hide from fact....and of all the things Stella is, stupid isn't one of them!....
Not that she needs me to defend her....she doesn't!....she is MORE than capable!...


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RE: Are you REALLY any smarter than a "nilla? - 3/24/2009 11:07:48 AM   
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Caution and fear are two very different things.  One can claim to be cautious and yet they are really using fear to guide them and to me... that isn't being cautious or even smart.  Being cautious, I walk carefully on ice, but I still walk on ice and am not afriad to walk on ice.  Falling on ice might make me afraid... cause damn it hurts... but I still carefully walk on ice and hope not to fall.  Okay comparing walking on ice to a mass murderer is kind of silly... but I am more commenting on fear and caution.  Using fear to protect yourself is as faulty a method of protection and self preservation as hoping balloons will hold your feet up over crock infested waters.  Your fear gets you into trouble and you will not live and thrive. 

Use caution... be smart and don't let fear stop you!  If you don't meet someone a certain way, let it be smarts or caution that guides you rather than fear.

On another note...

Hiding one's snark or downright judgmental and ugly comments about another is wise according to what's allowed on the open thread... but it is very ugly.  Not a great way to prove a point or make points.

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RE: Are you REALLY any smarter than a "nilla? - 3/24/2009 11:12:12 AM   
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Yanno, I am going to write a short story about a contact I had on here recently to prove a point about going with your gut.

Woman contacts me, age 42, submissive, less than gorgeous profile and photo, but several pleasant emails. We email back and forth for several days, seem to have similar interests, etc. However, I just am not getting a good feel for the person she is. Something is just, off.

She asks for another way to contact me via net. I have 4 total, email accounts aside of this one. An old hotmail account I rarely use except for junk. My work account that is strictly work. My long time yahoo account, which has my full given name. I've given it to a few people from here that thought were leaving CM, or I want to have more access to contacting me. They were people I almost instantly had a good solid feel for. And, a newer yahoo account I set up for.......people I don't want to have ANY access into my personal life yet at all. I gave her that account.

More emails exchanged, she then told me that she was coming to Iowa for work and would like to meet. Cool, fine, no problem, let me know. She asked to speak on the phone. I replied that I would, but I was going to get a pay as you go phone, and give her that number. Again, not something I have ever felt the need to do with anyone I've gotten to that point with, but there was still something, some little voice I was listening to. Her email back was a bit more......attitudinal......and gave me a phone number to contact her. Saying that SHE had no problem with it! Yet, something jumped out at me. Supposedly she lives in Arizona, but the phone had a Canadian area code. I wrote and asked about that, it was the hotel she was staying at while traveling for work...okay that makes sense.

Friday evening I called her, like I promised. We talked for about an hour or so, a bit of an unusual conversation, she seemed over eager to consider herself my submissive. Rather like, this is what I like, what I want to do for you, I am now yours! I was having to say things that brought the conversation back to reality. Real life, etc. Then when she expressed an interest in "serving me" via phone sex, I decided I had better things to do. Like take the dogs out to pee and go to bed. But, I had promised to call her again and meet her sometime this week. I was planning on following through.

Since then I've got two, increasingly weird and demanding emails. Pushy, accusing me of not following through. The last one was the final straw. I know me, I know what I've promised. I raised two teens and I know how to be specific and how to word things so that I don't leave things open ended. I gave zero specifics about when I would call. I was actually planning on doing it this evening when I knew I would have time.

After that final email, I sat and thought. What red flags have I got? No mention of being in Canada until questioned about area code, slight changes in story with phone, first it is hotel, then it is the phone number I use while traveling in Canada. Several very slight discrepancies in travel agenda. One age was given on profile then a different one just happened to slip out in phone conversation. Weird breathless voice on phone, maybe affected or electronically altered in some way.........? Some small talk of sex in first email...then of course an appology. First phone call wants to tell me about her fantasy of being used in a barn on a farm, then later wants phone sex......to serve ME of course....(insert snort here) And now a freaky demanding attitude because I didn't call when she wanted, which of course had not been communicated.

Okay, I don't have any pet bunnies, but I am having visions of bunnies in my soup pot.

I wrote her back that I am not calling her again, and I've no intention of meeting. Along with a few other points.

Yet.........in much less time and communication I've given people my full name, personal email address, the name and location of where I work, and my personal phone number. I don't even worry about it. If any one of those people showed up on my doorstep, I would welcome them in.

The difference.........it's subtle as hell. Maybe not everyone has the antenna I do, maybe I'm lucky, maybe..........whatever. I don't know. I just know it's working for me.


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RE: Are you REALLY any smarter than a "nilla? - 3/24/2009 1:25:34 PM   
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The one thought I keep having about this topic is that at least Kinksters discuss concepts like safe calls, having details about the person they are meeting passed along to a friend and not being drunk/wasted during the first meetings.  Many of my non-Kink friends do not have those safety guidelines in place at all.  Plus we frequently take first aid courses to deal with injuries resulting from "contact indoor sporting events". 

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RE: Are you REALLY any smarter than a "nilla? - 3/24/2009 1:39:08 PM   
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Thank you, LT.  I think we can use your post here to identify our own red flags. For me, the following
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"Weird breathless voice on phone, maybe affected or electronically altered in some way.........? Some small talk of sex in first email...then of course an appology. First phone call wants to tell me about her fantasy of being used in a barn on a farm, then later wants phone sex......to serve ME of course....(insert snort here) And now a freaky demanding attitude because I didn't call when she wanted, which of course had not been communicated."
This would have told me this was a male.  Way too direct and self focused.  Good call :)

What other things would someone like to point out as their red flags?

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RE: Are you REALLY any smarter than a "nilla? - 3/24/2009 1:48:14 PM   
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The obvious ones of being evasive and only available late at night or early in the morning that indicate a spouse or a live in partner.  Another is making boastful claims about skills and experience without any way to back up the claims.

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RE: Are you REALLY any smarter than a "nilla? - 3/24/2009 3:53:12 PM   
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What other things would someone like to point out as their red flags?


This is Darcy.

People who avoid answering direct questions given specifically to them.

People who act one way in a public setting showing a face of concern, yet in private with individuals, are just plain nasty.

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RE: Are you REALLY any smarter than a "nilla? - 3/24/2009 4:02:09 PM   
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I just love a man who seldom speaks, but when he does... he speaks powerfully strong messages.

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RE: Are you REALLY any smarter than a "nilla? - 3/24/2009 4:37:49 PM   
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to the OP.....i think the problem i am having with your thinking is that its not statistically proven, at least in my mind......bundys victims were mostly good samaritans or otherwise victims of chance.....as were every victim of a serial killer that i am aware of (i guess you could say prosititutes put them selves in harms way but that still doesnt equal more danger in the "community" you seem to be speaking of)

so i could say, will you ever be a good samaritan again? so many have been killed when trying to help someone, it is too dangerous to do.....

or will you walk around your neighborhood for exercise......several doing this have been murdered.....

stay outta church....just weeks ago a mad gunman stormed into a church and committed murder!

or will you sit in your kitchen, sipping coffee and washing clothes while watching morning tv(thats my personal fav, thats what my aunt was doing when she was broken in on and beaten to death by two teenagers)....

danger is everywhere.....we do the best we can with our gut, instincts, intuition, or just shit luck.  trying to hook it to bdsm, d/s, satan worship, professional sports, selling avon, wtfe, just doesnt wash......with me anyhow.....but i have a pretty good buzz right now so wtf do i know?

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RE: Are you REALLY any smarter than a "nilla? - 3/24/2009 8:12:17 PM   
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This is Darcy.

People who avoid answering direct questions given specifically to them.
 
If you are referring to susie's request for proof:  I have learned that people who are dead set in their attitude will accept no proof as good enough, therefore I will not waste my time.  She has a computer.. she can research it for herself.
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People who act one way in a public setting showing a face of concern, yet in private with individuals, are just plain nasty.

When someone decides to draw first blood..I'll fight back.  I keep it off the boards and address the person privately.  If you wish to state your case further... please write me privately..unless of course you need the audience.

Now, I have been trying to keep this thread on track.  If I have to address such derailments in this thread.. I have now done so. 

Now back to the issue of the thread as it was intended, please.

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RE: Are you REALLY any smarter than a "nilla? - 3/24/2009 9:25:37 PM   
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If you are referring to susie's request for proof:  I have learned that people who are dead set in their attitude will accept no proof as good enough, therefore I will not waste my time.  She has a computer.. she can research it for herself.


So you have no proof.  Understood.
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When someone decides to draw first blood..I'll fight back.  I keep it off the boards and address the person privately.  If you wish to state your case further... please write me privately..unless of course you need the audience.
I always find its best to tackle bigots in the light, so they can't hide like you're trying to do here.

quote:

Now back to the issue of the thread as it was intended, please.
If you didn't want the fact you're a bigot to be discussed, don't be a bigot.  I'm afraid you don't actually get to give any of us orders.  We're not your subs.




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