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RE: Young subs and old ugly men - 3/28/2009 9:49:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		There are two sides to this older man/ young slut.it can be a trade off hes gets the meat she gets what ever she wants,on the other hand is those in my situation, married to the beautiful Mistress DIANE and have subs ranging from 21 to 29..My girls are educated and work outside the home so there goes the gold digger theory right out the window,second I am not seeking love from them, they knew this from the start,is it my large cock humm no for I am very average in that dept..then you say what the hell is it Bounty,patient my children I shall tell you...Mine are pain sluts and haven;t be able to find  the meanest Bastard on the planet till they found me..bounty

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RE: Young subs and old ugly men - 3/28/2009 10:02:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MARAA

First,this is no offense or negative towards you with young partners what so ever.
It just stroke me, looking at one of those adds with bondage, they were all young subs with old men,most of them had seen better days. Getting off on some hot,young chic. There were nothing else! All were young and pretty.
I myself happen to be in my 30´ies but looks much younger, and I cant help relating to all those Dom´s Ive met,that more,or less,prefered it that way and or those young pretty subs. (also met the opposite those that dont care but I think there are a lot of the first group,and it annoys the hell out of me, I think its superficial. So now I ask you,what you have experienced and how important it really is. Is it getting worse for those of you,that happen to look good?
Do you meet more shallow ppl? just wondering.. in general.. im pissed thats why and curious


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RE: Young subs and old ugly men - 3/28/2009 10:05:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MARAA

First,this is no offense or negative towards you with young partners what so ever.
It just stroke me, looking at one of those adds with bondage, they were all young subs with old men,most of them had seen better days. Getting off on some hot,young chic. There were nothing else! All were young and pretty.
I myself happen to be in my 30´ies but looks much younger, and I cant help relating to all those Dom´s Ive met,that more,or less,prefered it that way and or those young pretty subs. (also met the opposite those that dont care but I think there are a lot of the first group,and it annoys the hell out of me, I think its superficial. So now I ask you,what you have experienced and how important it really is. Is it getting worse for those of you,that happen to look good?
Do you meet more shallow ppl? just wondering.. in general.. im pissed thats why and curious


I'm shallow&materialistic..can't help it, I like having pretty things around me.
Lets take you for an example, I'd never date a woman that was 165 and 90kg so you'd be out.
Lets take a man for an example, I'd never date a man below 6" so he'd be out.

oh and..if I had to choose between a poor youngsta and a rich ugly man I'd rather go to a nunnery.

man! This was quick!

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RE: Young subs and old ugly men - 3/28/2009 10:06:27 AM   
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RE: Young subs and old ugly men - 3/28/2009 11:19:01 AM   
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I wonder if Viagra and Cialis and all that have reduced the need for porn "fluffers"?


I don't think so - from what I understand in research done on the other coast the only effect is that the producers have more or less been able to double their output. It isn't something one would have thought about, but it makes sense that the males are the bottleneck - you can fake or simulate just about anything, except an erection.

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RE: Young subs and old ugly men - 3/28/2009 11:21:03 AM   
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RE: Young subs and old ugly men - 3/28/2009 11:25:10 AM   
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I've decided to start up a new BDSM pornsite with ugly old women and pretty young boys


You'd have a hard time making a buck - there are plenty of those around, especially in Europe.

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RE: Young subs and old ugly WOmen - 3/28/2009 11:30:52 AM   
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My thought is someone closer to his age would be more settled and stuff


Which is exactly what I don't want, I can do the "settled and stuff" myself, quite adequately . One thing that I enjoy greatly about younger people - and not just in terms of my sex life, but for instance where my interns are concerned - is that young folks don't have the ingrained inhibitions that my age group does. By that I don't mean only sexually - I came back to my lab from a sabbatical at MIT, one time, and expressed my wonderment about the novel and different stuff that students in the Media Lab were working on (research we were to some extent sponsoring). Said a colleague: "Great stuff, right? That's because nobody has told them yet they can't do that".

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RE: Young subs and old ugly men - 3/28/2009 11:44:19 AM   
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Who told you that


There has been a series of articles about the porn industry in the New York Times, the LA Times brings this up now and again, I had friends (producers) in the porn industry in Europe, while I was active in the theatre there, a good friend of mine is an editor with a sex magazine, I have produced "alternative" theatre plays myself, and many of the porn actors that work for kink.com have a presence on their forums (it is one of the requirements for being hired as an actor or actress there, they even do live sessions with online customer interaction), where they talk about their work, and answer questions. There is, additionally, now some published medical research on the effects of overdosing on Viagra, if I recall at least two doctors on the left coast have been censured for overprescribing Viagra, which is how it ended up in the press, and some of the production excesses were made public.

But even of there was none of the above - this is an industry, they make money there, the notion that middle aged males are employed by porn producers because they like to bop young women is a joke, that isn't how you make money. If your customers only get new stuff once a month, they'll go to other places where there are more frequent updates, the porn consumer is insatiable. As I said elsewhere - you can fake just about anything, but not an erection.

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RE: Young subs and old ugly men - 3/28/2009 11:46:11 AM   
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I had to choose between a poor youngsta and a rich ugly man I'd rather go to a nunnery.


Ah... you prefer men of the cloth..

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RE: Young subs and old ugly men - 3/28/2009 12:09:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah...I just went with young, pretty, and poor...but smart (thank you Ron White, you really can't fix stupid).  I have no prob helping him out while he is in school (though the GI Bill pays for tuition so it really is just helping out with living expenses).  When I have tried men closer to my age it just don't work out so when give the option between young & poor vs well-established and older it was a no brainer.  I do well enough for myself with my own career that their being 'established' is not a selling point if it comes attached with someone who also happens to be an insufferable bore.  As an ex corporate wife, I might miss some of the perks, but I much rather be able to have an identity outside of my mate's.

As for porn, I agree that part of the issue is that the consumer for porn tends to be middle aged guys (level of attractiveness being total subjective, I leave that one on the side).  When I have talked to other guys about this, they really do seem to feel themselves that it has to do with the ability to see themselves in the roll of the man (regardless of what that roll is).  Where that leaves all the pretty young things with a porn budget?  Either making their own or just not caring (these ARE men we are talking about )  

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RE: Young subs and old ugly men - 3/28/2009 12:35:41 PM   
roland23


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Status: offline 		As an old ugly man, let me say that I'm looking for a sub. Each age, each period of life has its advantages and disadavantages. I prefer middle-aged subs, but also enjoy being the Daddy Dom.

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RE: Young subs and old ugly men - 3/28/2009 1:40:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

*giggles* The title of the thread alone is entertainment enough.

I've decided to start up a new BDSM pornsite with ugly old women and pretty young boys. At a loss for a title, though--how about "HAGPLAY.COM"?

"Cougar-Country.com"?

"All Porn Is The Bloody Same.com"?



Perhaps MerryMatriarchs.com would be a good name for this site of yours. I'd certainly stop by to check it out, at least if it featured ugly old dominant women having their way with pretty young boys. Although I belong to a woman who's only a few years older than me, I'd be the first to admit that there's something compelling about age and the natural authority that goes with it. As for the "ugly" part - well, the masochistic, degradation-seeking part of my brain certainly likes the idea of being at the mercy of someone I found completely and utterly unattractive. Would the fantasy work as a porn site? It might be worth a try, even though I'm well aware that you made the original suggestion with tongue firmly planted in cheek.

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RE: Young subs and old ugly men - 3/28/2009 2:03:39 PM   
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There's this pervading misconception that apparently younger men can't be as established, as settled, as comfortable around women, etc. as older men. This is a ridiculous assumption to make.

There's also the misconception that those 'young subs' always want someone to "care" for them. That's silly too.

It boils down to attraction, and WHAT you're attracted to. I would never pursue a relationship with someone not in my age group... and it's entirely because I'm not interested in it. I'm relatively 'average' in my maturity for my age... I want someone similar for a mate. I don't want a 'young at heart' old dude, neither do I want a 'really mature' young one. Neither makes sense to me... FOR ME.

For others, I get it though.


EDIT: I caught the 'as' sir, and tied it to its proper spot!


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RE: Young subs and old ugly men - 3/28/2009 2:27:13 PM   
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Remember that during various times in history nunnery = brothel.


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ORIGINAL: antipode

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I had to choose between a poor youngsta and a rich ugly man I'd rather go to a nunnery.


Ah... you prefer men of the cloth..



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RE: Young subs and old ugly men - 3/28/2009 6:52:19 PM   
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RE: Young subs and old ugly men - 3/28/2009 6:58:17 PM   
Vendaval


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Status: offline 		And there are good reasons for the term "merry widow".  Think of how many younger women were married off to older men who eventually died and left their wives property and money.  The widows were no longer virgins and no longer obligated to produce offspring.  So they had more room to play and be their own boss.




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ORIGINAL: Wheldrake

quote:

ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

*giggles* The title of the thread alone is entertainment enough.

I've decided to start up a new BDSM pornsite with ugly old women and pretty young boys. At a loss for a title, though--how about "HAGPLAY.COM"?

"Cougar-Country.com"?

"All Porn Is The Bloody Same.com"?



Perhaps MerryMatriarchs.com would be a good name for this site of yours. I'd certainly stop by to check it out, at least if it featured ugly old dominant women having their way with pretty young boys. Although I belong to a woman who's only a few years older than me, I'd be the first to admit that there's something compelling about age and the natural authority that goes with it. As for the "ugly" part - well, the masochistic, degradation-seeking part of my brain certainly likes the idea of being at the mercy of someone I found completely and utterly unattractive. Would the fantasy work as a porn site? It might be worth a try, even though I'm well aware that you made the original suggestion with tongue firmly planted in cheek.



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So in this gray haze we'll be meating again, and on that
great day, I will tease you all the same."
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RE: Young subs and old ugly men - 3/28/2009 8:12:00 PM   
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Remember that during various times in history nunnery = brothel


I had no idea..



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RE: Young subs and old ugly men - 3/28/2009 9:45:03 PM   
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RE: Young subs and old ugly men - 3/29/2009 11:05:57 AM   
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There are two sides to this older man/ young slut.it can be a trade off hes gets the meat she gets what ever she wants,on the other hand is those in my situation, married to the beautiful Mistress DIANE and have subs ranging from 21 to 29..My girls are educated and work outside the home so there goes the gold digger theory right out the window,second I am not seeking love from them, they knew this from the start,is it my large cock humm no for I am very average in that dept..then you say what the hell is it Bounty,patient my children I shall tell you...Mine are pain sluts and haven;t be able to find  the meanest Bastard on the planet till they found me..bounty


In the entire thread, this was the best answer.  (Though I did appreciate those who helped to enlighten Me about the porn industry.)

I think part of the issue of the OP was that the balance wasn't being seen.  There are some people who are of the mind that, on a purely superficial basis, that the hottest commodity going as far as bottoms, would be young, attractive, hot women.  (The males will have to back Me up on that one.)  For the Top side, it's something different.  It's skill and experience.  Often, those things happen to come with age.  So, if you're a hot bondage babe looking to get your rope kink on, are you going to go for the cute, perhaps younger guy who's still learning ties, or are you going to go for the dude who's got a couple of decades worth of ropes under his belt?


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