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SirPantySniffer -> RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "generous" men? (4/6/2009 3:36:43 PM)

Why would I be looking at Dommes? However, as a Domme she is setting the rules so if she wants generosity she can have it? Why are you so upset? - there are lots of Dommes here I am sure they don't all require generosity.




4u2spoil -> RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "generous" men? (4/6/2009 3:43:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

~fr~

Generous.  I do want a man to be generous.  Generous of spirit, of honesty, of time... and yes, I expect him to buy me dinner! 

One of the things that amazes me about kink dating is how incredibly cheap some of the men are.  Like, not offering to buy a coffee cheap.  These are the men that don't get a second meeting.  I don't use "generous" as a criterion in my profile, but it sure is in my mind!  Monetary cheapness really does link up to miserliness in other areas. 


I got flamed in a different thread for going further into this discussion, but yeah, the whole "if you prove yourself, I may deem you worthy of paying $5" thing - not a turn on for most.




4u2spoil -> RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "generous" men? (4/6/2009 3:55:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: dennidson

Maybe I wasn't clear about how it's been sprung on me. On more than one occasion I have spoke to someone from here on yahoo messanger. After about 10 minutes I will be asked to sign up to a website so we can do cam2cam. A website I have never heard of which is asking for my credit card details. It might sound like I'm bitter but there are a lot of dommes claiming that payment is how we can prove we are not fake. I really don't like being called fake just because I can't afford to part with what little money I have so easily.

That being said I am well aware that there are a lot of fakes on this site and it's not easy to know which is which. This creates a lot of mistrust between all of us and has certainly been a hinderance to me and probably everyone else finding what they are looking for.


*sigh* It's called e-whoring, and that super sexy bunch of dommes is probably a guy in Kazakhstan. On the plus side, if you'd like to build up a stash large enough to interest a True supermodel domme, it may be a good side job.

And fakes and flakes happen on all sides. 




4u2spoil -> RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "generous" men? (4/6/2009 4:03:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: chiaThePet.

And the macaroons.

Yes, definitely the macaroons.

chia* (the pet)



I feel deprived. Where do I have to post my list of favorite desserts to get macaroons?




DavanKael -> RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "generous" men? (4/6/2009 6:44:41 PM)

I don't see a problem with it as long as everyone's clear on what's going on. 
Why are you so offended by it, op? 
  Davan




AlexandraLynch -> RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "generous" men? (4/6/2009 8:35:45 PM)

I'm not looking for a generous man. But I don't, and I'm upfront about this, have the money for someone to flirt round in panties all day flicking a feather duster over things and washing my underwear while I pay for everything including his keep and his pocket money.

Anyone I take on who lives with me will be expected to contribute both financially and in terms of labor to the house. The other male dom fixes the vehicles and the plumbing and holds down a 40+ hour a week job. I can't hold a full time job, but I am writing a novel, edit books now and then for cash, and do a host of other small things that bring in a trickle of income, as well being the Chief Organizer of the household. We all pull together, we all live better. It's that simple.




chiaThePet -> RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "generous" men? (4/6/2009 9:11:50 PM)


Ok FINE.......here you go.

Easy coconut macaroons;
  • 3 cups shredded coconut
  • 1 cup sweetened condensed milk
  • 1/8 teaspoon salt
  • 1 1/2 teaspoons vanilla extract
  • 1/2 teaspoon almond extract
Generously grease baking sheets. Combine all ingredients; stir until well blended.
Drop by teaspoonfuls, 1 inch apart, on prepared baking sheets. Press down with
the back of spoon to even thickness. Bake at 350° for 15 minutes, or until
macaroons are golden brown. Cool 5 minutes; remove from baking sheet.

For some added kink, add melted semi-sweet chocolate whilst blending, or,
dip half the cooled macaroon into melted milk chocolate. Ooooo edge play!

When entertaining in the dungeon on those special evenings, have your submissive
serve your guests in full collar and chaps as you seductively flog them along the
way, announcing, "Smacaroons everybody, Smacaroons".

chia* (the pet)




asianchloe -> RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "generous" men? (4/6/2009 11:43:40 PM)

Not too many 20 year old supermodels are dating middle-aged average-looking paupers. If "all" or "a lot" of dommes are telling you they don't want to meet/play with you unless you offer up some gift, either offer it up or look for someone in your own league.



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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt
Most of the guys making this complaint are seeking a 20 year old supermodel with a whip. [;)]





asianchloe -> RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "generous" men? (4/6/2009 11:51:10 PM)

It's not just that more beautiful dommes are more money-minded. It's that more beautiful dommes can be more selective and if you don't meet their standards, SOME may be willing to play-for-pay. I'd say the reation you've gotten is more about the relationship between your attractiveness (photo, intelligence, interests, etc on profile) and the attractiveness of the domme you are contacting. (I'm speaking in generalities since I haven't seen your profile or the profiles of the women you've been in contact with).


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Have to remember, Panda, that within certain age groups/body types, it can be more common. It doesn't happen so often when one doesn't especially only read the profiles of pin up Dommes.






asianchloe -> RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "generous" men? (4/6/2009 11:58:04 PM)

As a domme, I get annoyed and offended by subs who have a laundry list of their sexual wants on their profile. It's tacky and crass. I could start a thread on that....or I could just bypass the profiles I don't like. Hmm.



quote:

ORIGINAL: Newsensation
but as a sub guy I get rather annoyed and offended by this.





FullfigRIMAAM1 -> RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "generous" men? (4/7/2009 12:03:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: AlexandraLynch
I'm not looking for a generous man.
Generosity is not a bad word, and it shouldn't become a word that needs to be defended, in my opinion.
I don't know about most people, but one of the qualities I apreciate in fellow human beings, is generosity, meaning nothing more than
quote:

1 a: the quality or fact of being generous b: a generous act
.    
Additionally, dominants have a right to desire or demand whatever they desire, as long as they aren't forcing anyone against his/her will to submit.    M




asianchloe -> RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "generous" men? (4/7/2009 12:05:31 AM)

Paying for a coffee when asking a woman out is not being "generous". It's called "having manners".
I, too, have noticed kinky guys to be (generally) less chivalrous, less doting, less "generous" of time and money. It's possible that in my experience, the vanilla men I date are more successful and wealthy because they're the ones with enough confidence to ask me out...the kinky men who want to meet me just might be more middle-class and have less disposable income for the fancy dinners and expensive gifts (but that doesn't make up for being stingy in other ways).


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

~fr~


One of the things that amazes me about kink dating is how incredibly cheap some of the men are. Like, not offering to buy a coffee cheap. These are the men that don't get a second meeting. I don't use "generous" as a criterion in my profile, but it sure is in my mind! Monetary cheapness really does link up to miserliness in other areas.





asianchloe -> RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "generous" men? (4/7/2009 12:09:45 AM)

By that argument, strippers are prostitutes? Notify the local authorities!!

(And if it were really "fine with you", why the aggression that comes across in your post?)


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ORIGINAL: CorporalPunisher

Puhleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze!
A woman who offers sexual services in return for mony is a WHORE. Plain and simple. You can't dress it up as "tribute," or "I don't have intercourse with my subs." It's all bullshit. If you take money to give sexual gratification, you are a prostitute. Which is fine with me, but don't try to dress it up with all this "domme" bs.





asianchloe -> RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "generous" men? (4/7/2009 12:13:33 AM)

The sooner you guys realize that, the sooner you'll stop bitching. :)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tslaveboy

I guess things don't change much for us guys.





asianchloe -> RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "generous" men? (4/7/2009 12:18:19 AM)

How about listing on your profile YOU require generous dommes? That way, the scammers won't bother with you.
(Btw, I have noticed that many profiles of Pro-Dommes list on their profiles that they are pros and seeking clients.)

quote:

ORIGINAL: dennidson

One thing I really don't like though is when a profile has no mention of expecting money but then after an e-mail or two they spring it on you. At least be up front about it.





asianchloe -> RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "generous" men? (4/7/2009 12:19:56 AM)

Look at the OP's own wish list and you'll understand why women are asking for money to deal with him.

quote:

ORIGINAL: MissIsis

Considering the emails I get from men with a wish list of kinky things they want done to them, I am not surprised at all that some of these women are actually looking for what you are describing.





dennidson -> RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "generous" men? (4/7/2009 12:24:39 AM)

The people I was talking about there did not have any such thing in their profiles and they contacted me. As for the suggestion that my profile should say that I seek generous Dommes, I think that would give the impression that I expect money or gifts, which is not the case.




asianchloe -> RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "generous" men? (4/7/2009 12:25:05 AM)

If by irony, you mean hypocrisy...

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ORIGINAL: LadyLupineNYC

Including the OP, the has his own little 'wish list' (oh look, he isn't looking to serve, but is more interested in sex...goody!). I personally love that he posted this without seeing the irony of complaining about the women in here who also do who also have their own little 'list'.





RedMagic1 -> RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "generous" men? (4/7/2009 7:07:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: asianchloe
It's possible that in my experience, the vanilla men I date are more successful and wealthy because they're the ones with enough confidence to ask me out...the kinky men who want to meet me just might be more middle-class and have less disposable income for the fancy dinners and expensive gifts (but that doesn't make up for being stingy in other ways).

Something getting lost with all the talk about money is the real issue is: What are you willing to invest in the relationship?  Not being willing to spring for coffee is a sign of narcissism.

On the other hand, "fancy dinners and expensive gifts" seems like an unwise filter to me.  Many of the women I have dated have made more money than I do, and women have bought me an awful lot of meals, CD's, etc.  I've paid for stuff too -- and on a first date, I have always paid -- but I've always cared more about people than money.  My friend B, whose annual income is around 100 times my own (and I do OK), once told me, "You're the only person I can count on to tell me the truth, no matter how I look or how much money I have."  She and I met because she had an active profile here, though she's hidden it for now.

My point is that you shouldn't confuse the online "confidence" that comes from horniness and seeing a username that starts with "asian" with the reality that not many people in the world -- male or female, straight or nilla -- are going to be more interested in you than in how you appear.  In particular, people who spend a lot on trappings sometimes cannot see below them.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: What do you think of all the dommes seeking "generous" men? (4/7/2009 7:40:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: asianchloe

Paying for a coffee when asking a woman out is not being "generous". It's called "having manners".
I, too, have noticed kinky guys to be (generally) less chivalrous, less doting, less "generous" of time and money. It's possible that in my experience, the vanilla men I date are more successful and wealthy because they're the ones with enough confidence to ask me out...the kinky men who want to meet me just might be more middle-class and have less disposable income for the fancy dinners and expensive gifts (but that doesn't make up for being stingy in other ways).


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

~fr~


One of the things that amazes me about kink dating is how incredibly cheap some of the men are. Like, not offering to buy a coffee cheap. These are the men that don't get a second meeting. I don't use "generous" as a criterion in my profile, but it sure is in my mind! Monetary cheapness really does link up to miserliness in other areas.




It could be a confidence issue, yes.  I NEVER ask anyone to pay for me on a first meeting--which to my mind is nothing like a "date"--but not asking if I would like a refill on my coffee, or even worse, not buying one for himself, show a level of miserliness that I don't accept. I have seen it from executives MUCH more than from blue collar types.




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