LadyEllen -> RE: Lesbians: Why do you hate transsexuals so much? (5/26/2009 1:21:02 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Rule For me as a heterosexual male, the interest in females is innately visual, auditory, olfactory, tactile, and perhaps in other ways. I do know that it has been established scientifically, that gender interest is strongly associated with the olfactory sense. In heterosexuals males are attracted by people that smell female and females are attracted to people that smell male (though they describe the male smell as slightly repugnant); like sexes have smells that repell heterosexuals. In homosexual men and lesbians this is vice versa: like sex smells attract, other sex smells repell. We may hypothesize that in females that are born with a male body the heterosexual olfactory sense is dominant as determined by their body: they are attracted to female smell and therefore technically identify as lesbians. Transition will not change this gender preference: they will still identify as lesbians. Hypothetically, there may now be a problem: what if, despite the hormonal supplements, they still smell like a male? Before their transition they smelled like a male and could have a relationship with a heterosexual female, but lesbians would not be interested in them, both because of their male parts but especially because they did not smell like a female, but like a male. However, if after transition they still smell like a male, they have got the problem that they will still repell lesbians, nor will heterosexual females have an interest in them any more since they lack the male parts. If this is true, then relation wise, transition is a lose-lose situation for such females, whereas not to transition is a lose-win situation. Yep, all this smell stuff is something I find really interesting too - although it upsets some I know who dont like to think that all we are really is mobile chemical reactors! From my own self observations - which concern me only and have no wider implication necessarily, I was always a bit odd smell wise pre HRT in that I didnt smell like men are meant to, or at least as I observed that other men smelled - or from my point of view, stank. In fact I didnt smell at all. With an HRT regimen well in place I must say I still dont smell as far as I can tell; men have told me I smell like a woman (although that might simply be a combination of soap, make up and moisturiser!) but I dont detect it. Meanwhile the odd (and rather disturbing in many ways considering prior interest solely in females!) thing is that I find many men - whilst still having a strong smell - no longer stink to me but rather their smell can be a turn on. However, there remains that female smell too to me - very subtle indeed and pleasant (and not soap, make up or moisturiser) - which (perhaps) mitigates against the whole hormonal thing that the change regarding men might be taken to indicate. Regardless though, its all a bit academic since all in all - unless someone comfortable with my situation comes along whom I also find attractive enough to bother with (male or female) - it just isnt all that important to me any more. Which brings me back round to Lindsey's situation; I wonder if, with time she might find her interests changing or becoming largely absent as the situation develops? I also very much wonder if, chasing a new relationship (and getting knocked back) as she talks about, is something propelled by the human need for the support and friendship she has lost recently more than a concious and (unfortunate word) "healthy" interest to find a partner? I hope she will feel able to tell us a little more? E
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