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The Art of begging - 6/30/2009 11:23:30 AM   
justme1980


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If a Dom requires a sub to beg, is he saying that it is ok for the sub to put their needs before his?


Does it send a message that says "I will allow you to beg, manipulate, take my power, and otherwise control a certain situation "

Thoughts, comments?

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RE: The Art of begging - 6/30/2009 11:25:56 AM   
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How can you turn begging into zapping the Doms power?


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RE: The Art of begging - 6/30/2009 11:29:25 AM   
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Ok, let me see if I can say this right:

If a Dom requires a sub to beg, is he saying that it is ok for the sub to put their needs before his?


Does it send a message that says "I will allow you to beg, manipulate, take my power, and otherwise control a certain situation "

Thoughts, comments?


Your ideas are very strange.
 
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RE: The Art of begging - 6/30/2009 11:30:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: justme1980

Ok, let me see if I can say this right:

If a Dom requires a sub to beg, is he saying that it is ok for the sub to put their needs before his?


Does it send a message that says "I will allow you to beg, manipulate, take my power, and otherwise control a certain situation "

Thoughts, comments?


Not if he has you begging to suck his cock.

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RE: The Art of begging - 6/30/2009 11:31:37 AM   
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RE: The Art of begging - 6/30/2009 11:35:05 AM   
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A s-types Needs Come FIRST
A D-Types Needs Come SECOND
A D-Types Wants Come THIRD
A s-types Wants Come LAST

Begging has nothing to do with needs, if you have to beg for your needs then you should reevaluate your current position in life.

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RE: The Art of begging - 6/30/2009 11:37:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe if you rephrase your question, it won't seem so odd.  Are you curious to know why a Dom would enjoy "The art of begging" or what enjoyment do they get from watching their s type beg?

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RE: The Art of begging - 6/30/2009 11:38:07 AM   
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A s-types Wants Come LAST

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Sometimes, she wants cum first - so she begs
 
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RE: The Art of begging - 6/30/2009 11:39:37 AM   
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RE: The Art of begging - 6/30/2009 11:49:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: justme1980

Ok, let me see if I can say this right:

If a Dom requires a sub to beg, is he saying that it is ok for the sub to put their needs before his?

No, unless that's what they're saying.

Does it send a message that says "I will allow you to beg, manipulate, take my power, and otherwise control a certain situation "

No, unless that's what they mean.
 
Like much of life, it is what you make it.

And, just because the submissive begs, it doens't mean they get what they're begging for.



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RE: The Art of begging - 6/30/2009 11:49:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: justme1980

Ok, let me see if I can say this right:

If a Dom requires a sub to beg, is he saying that it is ok for the sub to put their needs before his?


Does it send a message that says "I will allow you to beg, manipulate, take my power, and otherwise control a certain situation "

Thoughts, comments?


Uh....what?  In my opinion, begging is to re-inforce in the sub's mind that the D really has the power and that the best chance the s has of getting anything is begging, and hoping to God/dess that the Dominant will grant their request.  I don't think it automatically assumes the s-type is allowed to manipulate, take the Ds power, or control the situation.  I seem to remember plenty of times where I've begged with my whole heart and soul & Sir's answer was still a calm, steady "No."  I'm a very good "begger," but in no way do I always get what I want at the time.

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RE: The Art of begging - 6/30/2009 11:50:59 AM   
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what the hell...?

How can you turn begging into zapping the Doms power?



If I say " Master I wish to by something" and the Master says "beg me" and I do it and he gives in and says yes, have *I* gotten what *I* wanted Did I take away from him the power of decision?

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RE: The Art of begging - 6/30/2009 11:53:06 AM   
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what the hell...?

How can you turn begging into zapping the Doms power?



If I say " Master I wish to by something" and the Master says "beg me" and I do it and he gives in and says yes, have *I* gotten what *I* wanted Did I take away from him the power of decision?


He still made the decision and the last word was His, so I would say no.

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RE: The Art of begging - 6/30/2009 11:53:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: justme1980

Ok, let me see if I can say this right:

If a Dom requires a sub to beg, is he saying that it is ok for the sub to put their needs before his?


Does it send a message that says "I will allow you to beg, manipulate, take my power, and otherwise control a certain situation "

Thoughts, comments?


Your ideas are very strange.
 
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Why Thank you I think

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RE: The Art of begging - 6/30/2009 11:55:25 AM   
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what the hell...?

How can you turn begging into zapping the Doms power?



If I say " Master I wish to buy something" and the Master says "beg me" and I do it and he gives in and says yes, have *I* gotten what *I* wanted Did I take away from him the power of decision?


Yes you have but not at the loss of his "Power".

You asked for something and he told you what you had to do to get it. If you do it and he gets it for you or allows you to get it then he got what he wanted and because of that you got what you wanted.

Moreover if you begged and he said No he does not now have MORE power for saying no he just used the options at his disposal.

Thank you for the clairification by the way.

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RE: The Art of begging - 6/30/2009 11:56:17 AM   
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what the hell...?

How can you turn begging into zapping the Doms power?



If I say " Master I wish to by something" and the Master says "beg me" and I do it and he gives in and says yes, have *I* gotten what *I* wanted Did I take away from him the power of decision?
nope.
if he says "beg me" he is exerting control by having you follow his command.
The decision he reaches is his...unless he is a total doof that is so easy influenced by an obnoxious submissive.


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RE: The Art of begging - 6/30/2009 11:57:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: justme1980

Ok, let me see if I can say this right:

If a Dom requires a sub to beg, is he saying that it is ok for the sub to put their needs before his?


Does it send a message that says "I will allow you to beg, manipulate, take my power, and otherwise control a certain situation "

Thoughts, comments?


im sorry, but, i do find your question sort of.. funny.

please, explain to me how, in the course of beggig him for something, and he/she still has the ability to say no, its taking away their power?

just because you beg doesnt mean you will get.

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RE: The Art of begging - 6/30/2009 11:58:48 AM   
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btw, as a general statement, not necessarilly to do with this topic, I had my tail-feathers in a knot for a few days on the board.....one of those I offended was the OP, and yes I'm apologizing for being a nasty brat.  I offended the OP and made myself and Sir look bad.  I'm sorry.  Now back to the actual thread in progress. 
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RE: The Art of begging - 6/30/2009 12:04:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: justme1980

Ok, let me see if I can say this right:

If a Dom requires a sub to beg, is he saying that it is ok for the sub to put their needs before his?


Does it send a message that says "I will allow you to beg, manipulate, take my power, and otherwise control a certain situation "

Thoughts, comments?


Not if he has you begging to suck his cock.


For myself, I do not beg for such pleasures, That is my Master's decision

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RE: The Art of begging - 6/30/2009 12:04:51 PM   
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