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RE: Prejudice about long-distance D/s - what do you thi... - 7/11/2009 6:51:29 AM   
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If you're not 'playing online' then what are you doing? Because you're not playing in real life are you?  I appreciate where you're coming from but I have to admit (and I'm sorry) I can't take online/long-distance people seriously.  It just doesn't make any sense and I can't see how it can be fulfilling at all.  I need all senses to be fulfilled not just hearing promises and seeing stuff on a screen.  But, each to their own I guess. Just wish online only people would use some kind of disclaimer when posting on forums so that the real life players know that they've never felt what it's like to submit and that their relationship is almost entirely in their head.




See that is where you have zero knowledge in, the entirely in their head business. It would be stupid of me to put you down because you might not be able to have the mental processing to handle a ldr. Not everyone can. I am more of a mental person then physical, which I happen to prefer anyways. What you don't understand doesn't mean it is not real. It just simply means you have not experience it or don't have the capacity to live it. This does not make it good or bad, it is just what is at this moment.


By all means have a go at putting me down but my understanding of the OP was that she hadn't 'met' her master because of the comment someone had made about her not wearing her 'Master's' collar.  Perhaps some people have problems discerning the difference between having met someone and then being separated and having to conduct a ldr between never having met someone and carrying on a ldr?  THere is a difference!  Think about it!


I will not agrue with you when you cannot understand. You would be one to think that I am not in a relationship either, since I wear no collar nor desire one. What you cannot understand cannot be explained at times. It would be senseless. If you felt I put you down, then that is your cup of tea. I tried my best to not. I do not see life like you do through your eyes. You are real and so am I. We just experience life in different ways. I accept yours and do not care one way or another if you do accept mine. It is totally not important to me to have someone outside of me to offer validation.

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RE: Prejudice about long-distance D/s - what do you thi... - 7/11/2009 6:58:32 AM   
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If you're not 'playing online' then what are you doing? Because you're not playing in real life are you?  I appreciate where you're coming from but I have to admit (and I'm sorry) I can't take online/long-distance people seriously.  It just doesn't make any sense and I can't see how it can be fulfilling at all.  I need all senses to be fulfilled not just hearing promises and seeing stuff on a screen.  But, each to their own I guess. Just wish online only people would use some kind of disclaimer when posting on forums so that the real life players know that they've never felt what it's like to submit and that their relationship is almost entirely in their head.



A disclaimer?  Any disclaimer that I might have for a warning label might not be one you'd appreciate.  The nicest thing I can say about your comment is that you have a narrow view of how other people's lives are actually lived.

I guess, in some people's view, I'm not a real life player.  I didn't wake up today with My sub sleeping under the same roof.  At no time today will he be kneeling at My feet.  There will be no serving Me dinner, running My errands, or doing any physical form of service in My home.  Today, he's just words on a screen, from across the globe.

Today, My sub serves Me in a different way, because he is serving his country.  That service is not just to Me, but to many others.  My sub happens to be a medic, stationed in Afghanistan.  He's there with thousands of others who went because they were told by a power greater than Me.  Yes, in a sense, he is there by choice, because he volunteered to serve.  He gave up his right to stay home, because he believes in defending the rights of others.

Does that make him less real?  To you, perhaps.  To Me, it makes Me exceedingly proud of him and the thousands like him who are willing to sacrifice their personal happiness and comfort for the sake of others.  I suppose it makes Me less of a Dominant in your eyes as well.  Since I'm on the subject, I wonder if you would have considered Me less of a wife when My husband's military service took him to Korea for a year and all I had were words on the screen and the occasional phone call. 

I'm sure it's a great comfort to those of us in military families and D/s dynamics to hear that our connections to those separated from us that they aren't real.  That means the worry isn't real.  The missing them isn't real.  The waiting isn't real.  Since none of this is valid in your eyes, I can go through My day, happy as a lark.

There are THOUSANDS of people in various countries who serve away from home.  Iraq, Afghanistan, and many other places around the globe.  Do you really have such a narrow view to think that NONE of them, might be in the lifestyle?



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RE: Prejudice about long-distance D/s - what do you thi... - 7/11/2009 7:04:48 AM   
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I will not agrue with you when you cannot understand. You would be one to think that I am not in a relationship either, since I wear no collar nor desire one. What you cannot understand cannot be explained at times. It would be senseless. If you felt I put you down, then that is your cup of tea. I tried my best to not. I do not see life like you do through your eyes. You are real and so am I. We just experience life in different ways. I accept yours and do not care one way or another if you do accept mine. It is totally not important to me to have someone outside of me to offer validation.


It's not a collar that makes it a relationship so not sure where that came from?  I'm just saying that you have to have met to have a real relationship with someone.  That's just my definition of relationship - you have to have actually MET lol.  It's also not a case of not understanding, I just don't agree with you that's all.

I do agree that the mental side of D/s is far more important but it can't stand alone.  If I displease him in someway then just getting told off via the phone or given 'tasks' (lol) is only going to go so far.  I can't imagine anyone I've ever been involved in being fulfilled by that, they'd want to punish me properly and soothe me afterwards.  In person.

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RE: Prejudice about long-distance D/s - what do you thi... - 7/11/2009 7:06:39 AM   
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If you're not 'playing online' then what are you doing? Because you're not playing in real life are you?  I appreciate where you're coming from but I have to admit (and I'm sorry) I can't take online/long-distance people seriously.  It just doesn't make any sense and I can't see how it can be fulfilling at all.  I need all senses to be fulfilled not just hearing promises and seeing stuff on a screen.  But, each to their own I guess. Just wish online only people would use some kind of disclaimer when posting on forums so that the real life players know that they've never felt what it's like to submit and that their relationship is almost entirely in their head.



A disclaimer?  Any disclaimer that I might have for a warning label might not be one you'd appreciate.  The nicest thing I can say about your comment is that you have a narrow view of how other people's lives are actually lived.

I guess, in some people's view, I'm not a real life player.  I didn't wake up today with My sub sleeping under the same roof.  At no time today will he be kneeling at My feet.  There will be no serving Me dinner, running My errands, or doing any physical form of service in My home.  Today, he's just words on a screen, from across the globe.

Today, My sub serves Me in a different way, because he is serving his country.  That service is not just to Me, but to many others.  My sub happens to be a medic, stationed in Afghanistan.  He's there with thousands of others who went because they were told by a power greater than Me.  Yes, in a sense, he is there by choice, because he volunteered to serve.  He gave up his right to stay home, because he believes in defending the rights of others.

Does that make him less real?  To you, perhaps.  To Me, it makes Me exceedingly proud of him and the thousands like him who are willing to sacrifice their personal happiness and comfort for the sake of others.  I suppose it makes Me less of a Dominant in your eyes as well.  Since I'm on the subject, I wonder if you would have considered Me less of a wife when My husband's military service took him to Korea for a year and all I had were words on the screen and the occasional phone call. 

I'm sure it's a great comfort to those of us in military families and D/s dynamics to hear that our connections to those separated from us that they aren't real.  That means the worry isn't real.  The missing them isn't real.  The waiting isn't real.  Since none of this is valid in your eyes, I can go through My day, happy as a lark.

There are THOUSANDS of people in various countries who serve away from home.  Iraq, Afghanistan, and many other places around the globe.  Do you really have such a narrow view to think that NONE of them, might be in the lifestyle?




Have you met him?  Did you read my posts properly?  If you have met him then how does what I've said apply to you?

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RE: Prejudice about long-distance D/s - what do you thi... - 7/11/2009 7:08:09 AM   
LaTigresse


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Status: offline 		For ME, a relationship has no serious validity until I have spent time with a person physically. That is me saying this about me, for me.

I do not deny that there are people that get emotionally attached and feel they are in some sort of relationship, without ever meeting. They are perfectly happy living in the fantasy world they have built without regard for exagerations and potential lies. They are comfortable with the possibility the person is not at all what they've said. That is fine for them. Granted I will be honest and say that I do not take them seriously and have had my fair crack at making fun of them. If that is offensive to people, that is on me. I can handle the flack, seriously.

I don't care how people want to justify their own personal business, it's theirs and as long as it has no effect on me and mine, what does it matter. The fact is, 99% of relationships probably wouldn't work for me, so to say an online/phone/fantasy driven one wouldn't be for me is only mentioning a specific type, not exclusively that type.

I don't get the thrill of typing instructions, imagining her following them, typing sex acts, or listening to someone moan and groan over the phone. Odds are I would laugh in response, rather than with more moans and groans.

I do not trust people enough, to care that much for them until I have spent time with them. Watching them, reading them. It is what works for me. I have personal boundaries and high standards. There is no way I can determine whether or not I want someone in my life, an important part of my life, unless I've got a solid grasp on the person they are. That is not at all possible without spending time with them.

I also do not NEED a power dynamic relationship so badly I have to resort to a fantasy world to live a satisfying life just because I do not have that relationship. That is me and MY point of view.

On these forums we discuss the pros, cons, likes, dislikes, build up, tear down, make fun of, justify, etc etc etc.... just about every other aspect of relationships and life. Just because there are people getting off on online fantasy games (in my eyes) and get all defensive about others having distain for them, does not make them valid or not, for those involved. It's just one of those subjects that people have strong feelings about. If a person does not like the opinions of others, they would best avoid reading them, because the opinions are not going to go away.

Myself, I see a great deal of irony and humour in the defensiveness of people that have these sorts of relationships. It is more telling than anything else.



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RE: Prejudice about long-distance D/s - what do you thi... - 7/11/2009 7:08:14 AM   
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I'm just saying that you have to have met to have a real relationship with someone. 

There are many people who have a real relationship with God....


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RE: Prejudice about long-distance D/s - what do you thi... - 7/11/2009 7:09:27 AM   
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If you're not 'playing online' then what are you doing? Because you're not playing in real life are you?  I appreciate where you're coming from but I have to admit (and I'm sorry) I can't take online/long-distance people seriously.  It just doesn't make any sense and I can't see how it can be fulfilling at all.  I need all senses to be fulfilled not just hearing promises and seeing stuff on a screen.  But, each to their own I guess. Just wish online only people would use some kind of disclaimer when posting on forums so that the real life players know that they've never felt what it's like to submit and that their relationship is almost entirely in their head.



A disclaimer?  Any disclaimer that I might have for a warning label might not be one you'd appreciate.  The nicest thing I can say about your comment is that you have a narrow view of how other people's lives are actually lived.

I guess, in some people's view, I'm not a real life player.  I didn't wake up today with My sub sleeping under the same roof.  At no time today will he be kneeling at My feet.  There will be no serving Me dinner, running My errands, or doing any physical form of service in My home.  Today, he's just words on a screen, from across the globe.

Today, My sub serves Me in a different way, because he is serving his country.  That service is not just to Me, but to many others.  My sub happens to be a medic, stationed in Afghanistan.  He's there with thousands of others who went because they were told by a power greater than Me.  Yes, in a sense, he is there by choice, because he volunteered to serve.  He gave up his right to stay home, because he believes in defending the rights of others.

Does that make him less real?  To you, perhaps.  To Me, it makes Me exceedingly proud of him and the thousands like him who are willing to sacrifice their personal happiness and comfort for the sake of others.  I suppose it makes Me less of a Dominant in your eyes as well.  Since I'm on the subject, I wonder if you would have considered Me less of a wife when My husband's military service took him to Korea for a year and all I had were words on the screen and the occasional phone call. 

I'm sure it's a great comfort to those of us in military families and D/s dynamics to hear that our connections to those separated from us that they aren't real.  That means the worry isn't real.  The missing them isn't real.  The waiting isn't real.  Since none of this is valid in your eyes, I can go through My day, happy as a lark.

There are THOUSANDS of people in various countries who serve away from home.  Iraq, Afghanistan, and many other places around the globe.  Do you really have such a narrow view to think that NONE of them, might be in the lifestyle?




Have you met him?  Did you read my posts properly?  If you have met him then how does what I've said apply to you?

There.  I highlighted it for you.


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RE: Prejudice about long-distance D/s - what do you thi... - 7/11/2009 7:12:50 AM   
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I'm just saying that you have to have met to have a real relationship with someone. 

There are many people who have a real relationship with God....



Oh LOL.. Let's not go there.

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RE: Prejudice about long-distance D/s - what do you thi... - 7/11/2009 7:14:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KaityK

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ORIGINAL: KaityK

I'm just saying that you have to have met to have a real relationship with someone. 

There are many people who have a real relationship with God....



Oh LOL.. Let's not go there.

Why not?


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RE: Prejudice about long-distance D/s - what do you thi... - 7/11/2009 7:17:12 AM   
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There.  I highlighted it for you.
 

That was quite a response based on one sentence in my entire post.  But still, what's the difference?  You had those senses indulged at least once? You know your sub and how he feels, looks in person and all that?  So you have something together, a bonding experience?  Being separated by military service is not the same as conducting a relationship across continents with someone you haven't met.  Do you understand now? x

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RE: Prejudice about long-distance D/s - what do you thi... - 7/11/2009 7:19:47 AM   
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RE: Prejudice about long-distance D/s - what do you thi... - 7/11/2009 7:19:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Prinsexx

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ORIGINAL: KaityK

I'm just saying that you have to have met to have a real relationship with someone.


There are many people who have a real relationship with God....



Oh LOL.. Let's not go there.


Why not?
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ORIGINAL: KaityK

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There.  I highlighted it for you.
 

That was quite a response based on one sentence in my entire post.  But still, what's the difference?  You had those senses indulged at least once? You know your sub and how he feels, looks in person and all that?  So you have something together, a bonding experience?  Being separated by military service is not the same as conducting a relationship across continents with someone you haven't met.  Do you understand now? x

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ORIGINAL: KaityK

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ORIGINAL: Prinsexx

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ORIGINAL: KaityK

I'm just saying that you have to have met to have a real relationship with someone. 

There are many people who have a real relationship with God....



Oh LOL.. Let's not go there.

Why not?
Do YOU understand yet?


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RE: Prejudice about long-distance D/s - what do you thi... - 7/11/2009 7:21:40 AM   
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Religion has no place in this discussion. If you have run out of opinions/points to make then just don't bother writing anymore? 


Now you are just being rediculously thick headed and refusing to see their points.

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RE: Prejudice about long-distance D/s - what do you thi... - 7/11/2009 7:22:38 AM   
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  I'm just saying that you have to have met to have a real relationship with someone. 



DAMN... I haven't met my General Manger.... but talked to him on the phone lots..... I guess it's not a real relationship of any sort... so... next time he calls.. I am going to call him a fake!!!! and not listen to him... cause really what could happen.. ?

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RE: Prejudice about long-distance D/s - what do you thi... - 7/11/2009 7:24:28 AM   
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If you're not 'playing online' then what are you doing? Because you're not playing in real life are you?  I appreciate where you're coming from but I have to admit (and I'm sorry) I can't take online/long-distance people seriously.  It just doesn't make any sense and I can't see how it can be fulfilling at all.  I need all senses to be fulfilled not just hearing promises and seeing stuff on a screen.  But, each to their own I guess. Just wish online only people would use some kind of disclaimer when posting on forums so that the real life players know that they've never felt what it's like to submit and that their relationship is almost entirely in their head.


Wow... People have relationships, solid relationships, who are separated by distance. Relationships are in the heart, not the finger tips. There are so many on this site that i know who are not together physically, yet joined at the heart.

Do you feel the same about vanilla couples as well? As with Lady Pact, many are separated due to service to their country. Others due to out of state jobs, family obligations, etc.

I had to laugh that you feel their should be a disclaimer for long distance couples, stating they have no idea what it is like to submit and the relationships live only in their imaginations. While their are some who chose on-line relationships only, others do it because of their own circumstances.

It takes a very strong couple to have a long distance relationship, but i doubt you will admit to that. If they are starting out on-line and long term, they have a huge advantage over many of us. That advantage is getting to know each other without the confusion a physical relationship can bring.


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RE: Prejudice about long-distance D/s - what do you thi... - 7/11/2009 7:29:12 AM   
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I cannot claim the OP does not have a relationship because she has never met him. It makes no sense for me to claim that on another person. What works for them, works. What is - is. If it is not something you can consider as a relationship fine. That is not what I am saying. You have the right to voice your opinion on this board as does everyone. Hence why I mentioned it is not a good idea to look for validation of who you are through others.

A person could be 24/7 and i have known plenty who are in all walks of life. Some have or had  an unhealthy relationship.  It is wise to not flatter ourselves into believing that we have the only answer.  Their relationship could be healthier then one that is 24/7. Who is to say or judge? Not you nor me but only them. We might ponder on the question if a person can really judge their relationship? Can a person discern that they are in a healthy relationship or not is another matter.  We might not think so, but do we really know? All we can do is figure out what works for us. A lot of what works for others would not work for me. I do know what does and doesnt work for me and go by that. I sure would not want to place my ideals on another.

If it works for the OP then it works. A healthier way of seeing it is to lean on her own validation of what the relationship holds then the theories of others. What works for her works for her and probably wont for many, me included. What works for me works for me but many could not do it. I can understand the how it can work for them, yet not be a part of it. 

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RE: Prejudice about long-distance D/s - what do you thi... - 7/11/2009 7:29:49 AM   
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I'm just saying that you have to have met to have a real relationship with someone. 

There are many people who have a real relationship with God....

There are many people who maintain a real relationship with people after death.
There are quadriplegics who sustain relationships (ie without movement in much of their body).
There are deaf people who sustain real relationships without hearing the voice of their partner.
There are blind people who sustain real relationships who have never seen their beloved.
There are those who spend 6 months of every year living in another country who sustain real relationships.
Do you understand yet?


< Message edited by Prinsexx -- 7/11/2009 7:30:34 AM >

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RE: Prejudice about long-distance D/s - what do you thi... - 7/11/2009 7:30:48 AM   
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Religion has no place in this discussion.
that is not your call.

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RE: Prejudice about long-distance D/s - what do you thi... - 7/11/2009 7:31:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		Please read your original again. No where did you include the comment about not having met.  You specifically aimed your comments at those who are not physically together.  There are also dynamics where people HAVE met, but are primarily online because they are in the process of being together.

The problem that I have with statements like yours is that you want to paint everything with the same brush and because you don't understand these dynamics, they can not be valid to anyone else.

Oh, and when I'm done laughing at the small comment about whether or not My sub and I have had 'bonding' experiences, I'll get back to you.


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RE: Prejudice about long-distance D/s - what do you thi... - 7/11/2009 7:31:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KaityK

If you're not 'playing online' then what are you doing? Because you're not playing in real life are you?  I appreciate where you're coming from but I have to admit (and I'm sorry) I can't take online/long-distance people seriously.  It just doesn't make any sense and I can't see how it can be fulfilling at all.  I need all senses to be fulfilled not just hearing promises and seeing stuff on a screen.  But, each to their own I guess. Just wish online only people would use some kind of disclaimer when posting on forums so that the real life players know that they've never felt what it's like to submit and that their relationship is almost entirely in their head.


Wow... People have relationships, solid relationships, who are separated by distance. Relationships are in the heart, not the finger tips. There are so many on this site that i know who are not together physically, yet joined at the heart.

Do you feel the same about vanilla couples as well? As with Lady Pact, many are separated due to service to their country. Others due to out of state jobs, family obligations, etc.

I had to laugh that you feel their should be a disclaimer for long distance couples, stating they have no idea what it is like to submit and the relationships live only in their imaginations. While their are some who chose on-line relationships only, others do it because of their own circumstances.

It takes a very strong couple to have a long distance relationship, but i doubt you will admit to that. If they are starting out on-line and long term, they have a huge advantage over many of us. That advantage is getting to know each other without the confusion a physical relationship can bring.



The answers to most of that lie in the posts I've written, but just to clarify, no, I do not mean those people who have met their partners.  That notion is just silly.  I am refering to those who have never met and probably never will.  And sorry, I do not agree they are 'strong', I think they don't have the cojones to take it to real-life.  They are fantasists and their 'problems' and nonsense they clutter up forums with is annoying and yes, they should have their own place to post or have a disclaimer! lol.. I wasn't entirely serious with that, but I do find it annoying when you try and help and talk through things with someone on forums only to find out she spanks her own arse on the phone/cam every night! :P

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