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DesFIP -> RE: sexual deprivation (7/28/2009 11:07:27 AM)

So you're going to lie to him about wanting to submit, if you agree he can have sex on demand you propose to lie when you say that, and basically you get your rocks off deliberately lying to people, frustrating them, and ruining their sense of trust in women.

Kid, you aren't ready for any kind of relationship. Your fear of relationships, fear of men, need to push everyone away is sickening. Go get help.




Lordskitten -> RE: sexual deprivation (7/28/2009 11:25:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: When ready
A force-play scenario is one thing - but this isn't it. I can see....the Dom holding Himself back until..."OK I have to have her.... " but thats not what you are talking about. I fail to see how you call yourself submissive. Good luck - I rather suspect you might need it.


Unless she can find a man who sides more to the wife beater club, i doubt she'll ever find a man who will go so far as to 'rape' a woman he cares about and likes, maybe even loves.  He will go to someone else before that happens.  To the op if she is still reading this thread: Even i have the fantasies of being wanted so much my lover forces himself on me, but you gotta realize a lot of men worth being around got very good training as youngsters.  You can be the best in the world at evoking lustful emotions in your man (which i don't see happening in your scenario since you revoke any intimacy, stable men aren't likely to jump to rape just cause your attractive.) and all that years of training kicks in and instead of forcing themselves on you or hurting you somehow they will either be so mortified that they even thought of it that they leave you, or self castrate themselves (figuratively) and play the good little puppy for your pleasure which you will get bored of quickly.  Most likely they will go to a bar, get shit faced drunk and bang the first girl that looks at them cross eyed, and maybe even have dinner with you again the next night.

Its not a game that will pan out in the long run.  Leave it as a fantasy, try telling your boyfriend that you have this fantasy and let him digest it, then a few months later start denying him, and maybe when his desperation gets high enough to even think of raping you, he might actually indulge you in your fantasy which doesn't make it any less real just cause you told him.  Just means you planned it better.




LILPrincessIzzy -> RE: sexual deprivation (7/28/2009 12:09:48 PM)

Wow I  know  I can be bratty at times ( really only when it comes to laundry...I hate laundry)  but you my dear give us a bad name . I mean it sounds more like you want to play mind games with someone , are you ready to accepted  what comes to you when it all falls apart or are you one of those that will post and whine. What happens when the 'dom' just takes what he wants from you my it be in force or how ever? Just think long and hard before you try and play these games. It  looks better in your head and on paper then in real life .... You cant control what the second party is thinking no matter how you try. 




MastersPanda -> RE: sexual deprivation (7/28/2009 12:22:49 PM)

I think you should forget about the D/s thing for now. You don't sound one bit like you know what being a sub or slave means. Maybe you should try to have a successful relationship first and start seeing what healthy sexual interactions you come to enjoy. With no manipulation or "forcing" or lies, it may surprise you what the right person, dominate or not, can bring out in you. Like others have said, you can't have this both ways . . .


--Masterspanda




Whiplashsmile4 -> RE: sexual deprivation (7/28/2009 12:54:24 PM)

I'm sitting here drinking Pepsi and smoking a cigerettee catching up on the posts to this thread.

OMGWTF is a reoccuring thought process in my mind.




Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: sexual deprivation (7/28/2009 12:54:42 PM)

this reminds me of a story Ir ead and unfortunatly I can't remember where I read it from, where the Dom fucked another girl in front  of his girl, because she w*ouldn't behave herself, and watching someone else get the dick you wanted was a good punishment, in this book.
quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse


So yeah, no big deal. I would just ignore your cock tease attempts, leave you to clean house while I went out and banged another.  I might even come back and tell you about it, in detail.




Chavello -> RE: sexual deprivation (7/28/2009 2:54:17 PM)

rednicky,

why not get a sub and tell him you are going to deprive him, then deprive him....no sense in playing mind games, unless you want to get your ass in trouble...which must be what you really want ....




rednicky -> RE: sexual deprivation (7/29/2009 1:18:28 PM)

Well I've read the thread over and I've decided to just try and go steady in a regular relationship (vanilla or otherwise). Who knows. I may like non-fantasy romance more than my actual fantasies. A lot of you have actually referred to my previous posts and I honestly didn't think many people paid much attention to who posted what. In know I sure don't. But those of you who did reference a previous post of mine all said you were scared for me and a lot advised therapy. I'll consider therapy if I try a few relationships and it crumbles because of my demeanor, my conduct, and my fantasies. It's summer time so I'm reading a lot of romance novels. I need to get back in touch with reality.

So my plan is to try a relationship and not come back to the board complaining about this or that UNTIL I've experienced at least one. So I'll really be afk or a while and my next post will be depicting my how first relationship is going (unless I come back to this thread to comment on a question or concern someone had for me). Maybe I'm just a normal girl who got caught up in the fantasy of it all. Or many I'm a crazy manipulative bitch a lot of people claim me to be who will get what's coming to her in time. Either way, I'm willing to keep an open mind.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: sexual deprivation (7/29/2009 4:18:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rednicky

Once I enter a relationship, I want to deprive a Dominant male of having sex with me, for this is my delight. Sexual deprivation gives me a sense of power, especially when depriving someone of something who feels he is entitled to it. And a loooot of Doms, once in a relationship, feel they are entitled to have sex with their subs whenever they want. And there is nothing wrong with that. IMO, that's how it should work. I mean they 'are' the Doms. But in the case I'm presenting to you, I am one who chooses to deny him this 'right', stripping him of his power.

But this does not mean I am a Domme. I don't want to take the power away from male sub because, by submitting to me, he's already agreed to give up his power unto me. That's no fun and that grants me absolutely no power. I want to take the power away from someone who feels he should be the one in control, and I want to leave him frustrated and confused. Frustrated enough to have my lack of interest in sex virtually ruin his whole day but not frustrated enough to end the relationship, which would otherwise be perfect were I willing to give up some sex.

I wouldn't just flat out tell my Dom "No sex for you". No man in his right mind would really enter a relationship knowing that there would be almost no intimacy. But I'd avoid sexual things that men usually use to initiate sexual moods. We wouldn't even so much as talk about sex. I'd be more interested in what his favorite foods were or if he likes this show. For example, when we'd go out we'd have a lot of fun, but I wouldn't flirt or give him sexy stairs. I wouldn't kiss him or hold his hand. I wouldn't go over to his place after a certain hour. A lot of sex happens at night. Especially first time sex between couples. So I'd make sure I'm home by 6:30. If he asked me about it, I'd shrug and simply say "I just like to take things slow". He'd understand that until I keep things 'slow' for about 3 months without so much as a long embrace. He can't really address it sense it might translate into him pressuring me. Especially if he had already asked me earlier in the relationship and I had already told him "I like to take things slow". So where does that leave him? And it's pretty hard to Dom when no sex or intimacy is involved.

Guys, I'm actually curious to know what you'd do if you did find someone who was great to be around but, without actually saying so, allowed no intimacy at all. I divorced her.  We all know that you upstanding Doms would let the sub go at her own pace once a relationship is established so that she's comfortable and doesn't feel pressured. But what if this period lasted 4 months without even a single hint of desire for sexual activity on her end? What would you do? Better yet, is there a proper term for what I am describing (no, not cock tease)? Are there others out there who do this?

The very idea of all of this really gets me going and I want to get a Dom so frustrated and annoyed that he sort of 'snaps' forgets about initiation and just takes what he wants (almost like rape). I feel like that would be the best sex ever. Angry, unforgiving, "I gotta have it, you tease" sex. I just want to know if I'm alone in all of this. I've heard of Dominants depriving sex from submission and I've heard of mutual deprivation (sexless marriages?). But I want to ind out more about 'this'. At one time I was simply telling potential suitors that I wanted rough, monkey sex that resembled rape. But that wouldn't be genuine. It'd be a show. He'd know what I'd want and he'd give it to me. I'm looking for pure animalistic behavior that drives men to such a thing as rape, but within a budding relationship. I want him to really not be able to help it. Not to simply want to fulfill my fantasy. I wanna see what tips a guy over the edge the causes his desires take control, whether his partner likes it or not.

I didn't mean to write a Novella on this but I am quite curious and wanted to be as clear as possible. maybe I might find others like me.




CelticPrince -> RE: sexual deprivation (7/29/2009 6:22:35 PM)

rednicky,

Davan K said it concisely.

CP




Andalusite -> RE: sexual deprivation (7/30/2009 8:15:35 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: rednicky
Who knows. I may like non-fantasy romance more than my actual fantasies.

A lot of fantasies are hotter to think about than to actually do. I agree with a few of the other people that some switch men may have the power and flexibility to help you get feel viscerally physically overpowered, *and* be up for tease and denial games. I think you may still need to communicate about it more than you seem to feel you can in a hot way, but it doesn't need to feel like fake role-play, either.




FawneTwo -> RE: sexual deprivation (7/30/2009 3:37:24 PM)

hey cute rednicky:

If you aren't ready for a transformation -

JMO of course
It's really, really hard to let go of your self AND embrace ( accept, lean into, nuture) a master's dominance.
(Its harder still to nail down and appropriately express what's surrounding that beautiful, terrifying inner expansion, but you gotta do it somehow to make it)

I've learned - He may experience your struggle as manipulation and that can trigger his worst fears not good not good at all [:(]




marts777 -> RE: sexual deprivation (7/30/2009 4:28:45 PM)

RE. the OP - Ive come across plenty of women who play that game, and the last thing I want to do is have sex them. Why? Because they are lying, manipulative bitches.

Your "fantasies" are pathetic and I doubt you will ever have a proper relationship based on those ideas.




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